VRT for travelling spouse

opinion guy · 01-06-2010 11:53am

keithclancy wrote: »

Hah ... you think you have it bad in Ireland ...

Checkout where you can change country by moving your front door

http://www.flanderstoday.eu/content/borderline-insane

Having to pay BPM (VRT) when the guy living next door doesn't.

Or living in the Netherlands, Surrounded by Belgium, which is surrounded by the Netherlands.

Also be sure to check out crazy map
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=baarle-nassau&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=30.268266,56.513672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Baarle-Nassau,+North+Brabant,+The+Netherlands&ll=51.448257,4.928495&spn=0.002902,0.006899&z=17

Thats pretty crazy. How did that come about ?

01-06-2010 12:01pm

Sean O wrote: »

The lady in question is a State resident. No amount of obfuscation can alter that fact. The vehicle in question is liable to seizure. Offering ill-informed opinions will not alter the legality of the situation.

Would you please explain to me how someone who lives in NI, pays bills in NI, gets paid sterling and pays their income tax in NI is not a resident of the NI? Visiting Ireland for two days a week does not make you a resident here it make you a visitor.

There is no way on earth the op's wife is liable for vrt.

Also you completely ignored a lot of posts which are showing that what your saying is wrong.

keithclancy · 01-06-2010 12:23pm

Eden Wide Evergreen wrote: »

Would you please explain to me how someone who lives in NI, pays bills in NI, gets paid sterling and pays their income tax in NI is not a resident of the NI? Visiting Ireland for two days a week does not make you a resident here it make you a visitor.

There is no way on earth the op's wife is liable for vrt.

Also you completely ignored a lot of posts which are showing that what your saying is wrong.

Its gets a little bit more complicated:

i.e. In my case I was working in Germany with a residence there and a residence in the Netherlands, the laws get quite complicated so I declared by Dutch Residence as Primary and my German as secondary, otherwise the tax office/s decide.

Where you get paid, pay income tax, pay bills does not dictate where you are resident and there are tax treaties that cover that.

There was an ECJ case on the matter quite recently:
http://www.legalfrontiers.ca/2010/03/habitual-residence-in-the-eu/

If she part owns the house in the Republic and her immediate family live there it could be taken that her primary interest lies in the Republic and not in the North, the burden would be on her to prove that she spends the majority of her time in the North, how you would do that exactly i'm not sure. In my case i did a tax return for each year with a calendar of days I spent in NL and days spent in DE and submitted a bunch of receipts to each of the respective authorities.

Not really an issue for me anymore since i've moved close to the Border and gotten rid of my Apartment in Germany, so will be paying full German Income Tax/Health Insurance/Social Security/Solidarity fund as a non-resident tax payer.

Even when we queried the Belastingdienst about declaring our secondary residence in the Netherlands and the Primary in Germany they couldn't give us a clear answer and basically said the rules might be interpreted differently by the Customs border control.

UK Authorities have recently changed the rules also:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/article-14.2.htm

I'd say her best bet would be to have UK bills, Driving license and a posh accent to avoid having questions asked

opinion guy wrote: »

Thats pretty crazy. How did that come about ?

The region Brabant was the old Kingdom and got Split off into Belgium and The Netherlands (Hence why the Belgians speak Dutch, well they called it Vlaams but really its just Dutch with a few different words (Think Dub English vs Cork English) )

Dukes of Brabant and the Lords of Breda went mental swapping around bits of land and when they split Brabant they couldn't decide what to do with Baarle, so it became Baarle-Nassau and Baarle-Hertog

Sean O · 01-06-2010 12:49pm

This lady would, without any doubt, be considered a State resident. She is not entitled to drive a non-State regisrered vehicle in the Republic of Ireland. She would also not be entitled to Temporary Exemption. She has two options. 1) Pay the appropriate VRT or apply for a Transfer of Residence exemption. Form C&E 1077 is a Transfer of Residence application and can be downloaded from the Revenue website at revenue.ie. The law is quit clear and no amount of ill-informed opinions will change it.

01-06-2010 1:12pm

Sean O wrote: »

This lady would, without any doubt, be considered a State resident. She is not entitled to drive a non-State regisrered vehicle in the Republic of Ireland. She would also not be entitled to Temporary Exemption. She has two options. 1) Pay the appropriate VRT or apply for a Transfer of Residence exemption. Form C&E 1077 is a Transfer of Residence application and can be downloaded from the Revenue website at revenue.ie. The law is quit clear and no amount of ill-informed opinions will change it.

And what does she tell the NI authorities when they ask her why is she driving an Irish reg car while living, working and spending most of her time in NI?

You keep blindly making the same points which leads me to believe you don't know what your talking about.

Sean O · 01-06-2010 1:24pm

She would, of course, be permitted to drive her State registered vehicle for work purposes in Northern Ireland. I keep making the same posts because I will not be distracted by people who do not understand the regulations. I know exactly what I am writing about.

Dravokivich · 01-06-2010 1:29pm

Sean O wrote: »

This lady would, without any doubt, be considered a State resident.

You are saying she is, but not explaining why..?

This is what the OP is trying to find out...

Cookie_Monster · 01-06-2010 1:29pm

Sean O wrote: »

She would, of course, be permitted to drive her State registered vehicle for work purposes in Northern Ireland. I keep making the same posts because I will not be distracted by people who do not understand the regulations. I know exactly what I am writing about.

how do you figure she's a state resident then?

keithclancy · 01-06-2010 1:30pm

Eden Wide Evergreen wrote: »

And what does she tell the NI authorities when they ask her why is she driving an Irish reg car while living, working and spending most of her time in NI?

You keep blindly making the same points which leads me to believe you don't know what your talking about.

That her primary residence and Interest is in the Republic and she has a residence in the north for the Purposes of Work.

Although it would be financially beneficial to do it the other way around.

Best thing she could do would be consult a tax advisor.

I do know that there lots of reasons around it, i.e. people exploiting tax benefits between two countries, i.e. Tax Relief on a house via their married partner who is still in that tax system while also claiming a rent relief in another territory, just as an example.

For example she cannot claim via the Standard PRSI system and should have an E106 card if she is permanently resident in the UK to avail of Health services in the Republic:
http://www.capitaltaxconsulting.com/faq/social-security/what-is-an-e106/

I don't think a definite answer is going to come from boards.

peasant · 01-06-2010 1:39pm

Sean O wrote: »

She would, of course, be permitted to drive her State registered vehicle for work purposes in Northern Ireland. I keep making the same posts because I will not be distracted by people who do not understand the regulations. I know exactly what I am writing about.

She doesn't just "work" in NI, she bloody well lives there and is a NI citizen.

Before she married the OP this was a clearcut case. Her driving down to the Republic 2-3 nights a week to visit some man didn't bother anyone, not even the VRT people.
Now that she married this man she's a resident of the Republic?
That's balls. The actual situation hasn't changed one bit.

Regulations need to be flexible sometimes and need to be applied in spirit rather than by the letter.

But with people like you (supposedly) in charge of applying them there is very little hope of that happening and the case will probably have to go to some EU court or whatever before your ilk see sense.

Sean O · 01-06-2010 1:50pm

Residency for income tax purposes and VRT purposes are not the same. What are the Residency Requirements?
For VRT purposes you must have had your normal residence as defined below, outside the State at the time of transfer. In the case of a transfer from outside the EU, you must have had your normal residence outside the EU for a continuous period of at least 12 months prior to transfer.

Normal Residence means:

the place where you usually lived, for at least 185 days in the year ending on the date of transfer, because of occupational and personal ties
if you had no occupational ties, the place where you usually lived for at least 185 days in the year ending on the date of transfer, because of personal ties
if your occupational ties were in a different country from your personal ties then the country of your personal ties is taken as your normal residence if you returned there regularly (i.e. for most of your non-working days). It would be unreasonable to expect any Revenue official to believe that a newly married couple live 'separate lives'. Expressing different opinions will not change the law.

keithclancy · 01-06-2010 1:53pm

peasant wrote: »

She doesn't just "work" in NI, she bloody well lives there and is a NI citizen.

Before she married the OP this was a clearcut case. Her driving down to the Republic 2-3 nights a week to visit some man didn't bother anyone, not even the VRT people.
Now that she married this man she's a resident of the Republic?
That's balls. The actual situation hasn't changed one bit.

Regulations need to be flexible sometimes and need to be applied in spirit rather than by the letter.

But with people like you (supposedly) in charge of applying them there is very little hope of that happening and the case will probably have to go to some EU court or whatever before your ilk see sense.

Again, not that simple, the Legislation in Ireland is different to the UK, once they were married this became "personal ties"

See the below:

if your occupational ties were in a different country from your personal ties then the country of your personal ties is taken as your normal residence if you returned there regularly (i.e. for most of your non-working days).

By that logic, I should have to register my car in the North as I regularly visit on my days off work.

The UK doesn't have the same requirement, in fact you can drive a car on foreign plates if you work outside the UK for an unlimited amount of time, to cover lease cars etc.

As i said this gets quite complicated and the OP should really talk to a tax consultant who specialises in this situation, theres probably some form somewhere that Customs have for it.

Edit.. I believe its what Sean O said, but again there could be an exemption form.

I do know there is one for the Dutch anyway, we had a car on German plates for 3 years with a form we had to keep in the glovebox to show the Dutch customs in the event we were stopped in it.

Gophur · 01-06-2010 1:55pm

Sean O wrote: »

Residency for income tax purposes and VRT purposes are not the same. What are the Residency Requirements?
For VRT purposes you must have had your normal residence as defined below, outside the State at the time of transfer. In the case of a transfer from outside the EU, you must have had your normal residence outside the EU for a continuous period of at least 12 months prior to transfer.

Normal Residence means:

the place where you usually lived, for at least 185 days in the year ending on the date of transfer, because of occupational and personal ties
if you had no occupational ties, the place where you usually lived for at least 185 days in the year ending on the date of transfer, because of personal ties
if your occupational ties were in a different country from your personal ties then the country of your personal ties is taken as your normal residence if you returned there regularly (i.e. for most of your non-working days). It would be unreasonable to expect any Revenue official to believe that a newly married couple live 'separate lives'. Expressing different opinions will not change the law.

Nothing in your post indicates anything other than the lady in question is resident outside the Republic of Ireland.

Sean O · 01-06-2010 1:55pm

You might get a better idea of what I am talking about if you looked at the primary legislation: the Finance Act 1992 (as amended) and Statutory Instrument No. 59 of 1993 for VRT .
Council Directive 83/181 (EEC) and S.I. 183 of 1985 for VAT.
Council Regulation (EEC) 918/83 for Customs duty.
A simplified version is contained in the VRT leaflet VRT3 which can also be downloaded at the Revenue website revenue.ie.

opinion guy · 01-06-2010 1:56pm

Sean O wrote: »

Residency for income tax purposes and VRT purposes are not the same. What are the Residency Requirements?
For VRT purposes you must have had your normal residence as defined below, outside the State at the time of transfer. In the case of a transfer from outside the EU, you must have had your normal residence outside the EU for a continuous period of at least 12 months prior to transfer.

Normal Residence means:

the place where you usually lived, for at least 185 days in the year ending on the date of transfer, because of occupational and personal ties
if you had no occupational ties, the place where you usually lived for at least 185 days in the year ending on the date of transfer, because of personal ties
if your occupational ties were in a different country from your personal ties then the country of your personal ties is taken as your normal residence if you returned there regularly (i.e. for most of your non-working days). It would be unreasonable to expect any Revenue official to believe that a newly married couple live 'separate lives'. Expressing different opinions will not change the law.

But there is no transfer to have a date!

peasant · 01-06-2010 1:58pm

Sean O wrote: »

It would be unreasonable to expect any Revenue official to believe that a newly married couple live 'separate lives'.

But what if they indeed do, as the OP states (and can prove!)?

The revenue official might just have to be reasonable for a change

Dravokivich · 01-06-2010 2:03pm

Sean O wrote: »

because of personal ties if your occupational ties were in a different country from your personal ties then the country of your personal ties is taken as your normal residence if you returned there regularly (i.e. for most of your non-working days).

peasant wrote: »

But what if they indeed do, as the OP states (and can prove!)?

The revenue official might just have to reasonable for a change

What Sean O is saying is, because she comes to Ireland to "live" with him due to personal ties, she is considered a resident in Ireland.

OP may want to start looking into the possiblity of heading up North to spend time with her.

01-06-2010 2:10pm

Sean O wrote: »

Residency for income tax purposes and VRT purposes are not the same. What are the Residency Requirements?
For VRT purposes you must have had your normal residence as defined below, outside the State at the time of transfer. In the case of a transfer from outside the EU, you must have had your normal residence outside the EU for a continuous period of at least 12 months prior to transfer.

Normal Residence means:

the place where you usually lived, for at least 185 days in the year ending on the date of transfer, because of occupational and personal ties
if you had no occupational ties, the place where you usually lived for at least 185 days in the year ending on the date of transfer, because of personal ties
if your occupational ties were in a different country from your personal ties then the country of your personal ties is taken as your normal residence if you returned there regularly (i.e. for most of your non-working days). It would be unreasonable to expect any Revenue official to believe that a newly married couple live 'separate lives'. Expressing different opinions will not change the law.

Ok so I lived in London for a year, I worked there paid income tax, had a vote but returned home for a few days every month as all my family, friends etc were in Ireland. So was I a UK resident or did I remain an Irish resident. If you argue that I was an Irish resident then what would I have to do to become a UK resident?? Marry a UK resident?? Its a ridiculous argument.

Imo the only thing that is making an issue out of this is that we have a land border with NI. If the op's wife were living in mainland UK and travelling back there would be no issue.

Dravokivich wrote: »

What Sean O is saying is, because she comes to Ireland to "live" with him due to personal ties, she is considered a resident in Ireland.

OP may want to start looking into the possiblity of heading up North to spend time with her.

He said that he does head up which again means his wife does not even spend all her weekends in the republic which strengthens the argument that she is an NI resident even more.

Gophur · 01-06-2010 2:16pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

What Sean O is saying is, ............

.............he doesn't countenance any circumstance under which this lady should be exempt from paying VRT.

Sean O · 01-06-2010 2:17pm

Try and read the primary legislation before expressing an opinion. Remember that the law will not change because you do not understand it.

Dravokivich · 01-06-2010 2:28pm

Gophur wrote: »

.............he doesn't countenance any circumstance under which this lady should be exempt from paying VRT.

He's not saying how he feels it should be... he's saying how it is...

Yawns · 01-06-2010 2:34pm

He's saying she is a resident.

She would have to spend all weekend every weekend down here for her to be slightly considered a resident.

She lives, works, shops, pays taxes and everything else in NI. She comes down for about a week every month if they alternate weekends. Does that really make someone a resident of another country?

Sean O · 01-06-2010 2:34pm

Exactly Dravokivich! At least somebody understands what I am saying.

Dravokivich · 01-06-2010 2:36pm

Yawns wrote: »

He's saying she is a resident.

She would have to spend all weekend every weekend down here for her to be slightly considered a resident.

She lives, works, shops, pays taxes and everything else in NI. She comes down for about a week every month if they alternate weekends. Does that really make someone a resident of another country?

He also explained what defined her as a resident in the bit of his post I quoted earlier...

Sean O wrote: »

Exactly Dravokivich! At least somebody understands what I am saying.

TBH, it is rather confusing... had to read over 1 of your last replies a few times...

peasant · 01-06-2010 2:39pm

Sean O wrote: »

Exactly Dravokivich! At least somebody understands what I am saying.

I for one also understand exactly what you are saying ...but I also understand that the law is an ass (sometimes), which is a feat that you are incapable of.
Too many years in the public service do that kind of thing to you

01-06-2010 2:41pm

Sean O wrote: »

Exactly Dravokivich! At least somebody understands what I am saying.

You still haven't answered my question about whether or not I was a UK resident when I lived in London?

opinion guy · 01-06-2010 2:55pm

Sean O wrote: »

Exactly Dravokivich! At least somebody understands what I am saying.

No I think most people understand what you are saying.

The point is thou that this person works, lives, pays tax in another jurisdiction. How is it in any way right that we essentially abduct her residency without her will in order to impose a tax on her car, which she bought and paid for in another jurisdiction ? By this rational we should also give her PRSI stamps for her time working in the North.

SeanO what you are saying may be the law, but I seriously doubt a judge would enforce it in this case.

Furthermore -what are the rules up north then is she is driving up there 5 days a week on a southern reg'ed car ? Will she then get in trouble up there ?

Gophur · 01-06-2010 3:14pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

He's not saying how he feels it should be... he's saying how it is...

Actually, he is interpreting it.

His opinion is not one I would be using for a definitive opinion.

keithclancy · 01-06-2010 3:54pm

Eden Wide Evergreen wrote: »

You still haven't answered my question about whether or not I was a UK resident when I lived in London?

For the purposes of Tax, yes you would be, thats the part that gets complicated.

I.E. if your (tax) partner* in Ireland had a house with rental income for example then under the tax treaty you would have to declare this under your worldwide income. Similarly you would be able to get the benefits of marriage under the taxation system but would not be able to recieve the benefit in both countries.

The rules also vary from country to country.
Example in the Netherlands you get a tax rebate on your mortgage, in Germany no such benefit exists, I pay half the mortgage but can only claim the rebate under her income, also in Germany I get 35cent / KM for commuting to and from work of a rebate, no such rebate exists in the Netherlands so I only get it one way.

Bottom line is consult a tax advisor, they will save you money if you own a house.

I have a bucket of paper I have to go through for 2009/2010 !!

This is why the EU has absolutely no governance over local taxation systems, there is not easy way to iron out the irregularities.

*tax partner* being either Married, Fiscal Partners or Civil Partnership (Civil Partnership is not recognised in Germany)

**EDIT**

Could you not just apply for the VRT Exemption and then keep the approval documentation for it in the glovebox ?

01-06-2010 5:18pm

keithclancy wrote: »

For the purposes of Tax, yes you would be, thats the part that gets complicated.

I.E. if your (tax) partner* in Ireland had a house with rental income for example then under the tax treaty you would have to declare this under your worldwide income. Similarly you would be able to get the benefits of marriage under the taxation system but would not be able to recieve the benefit in both countries.

The rules also vary from country to country.
Example in the Netherlands you get a tax rebate on your mortgage, in Germany no such benefit exists, I pay half the mortgage but can only claim the rebate under her income, also in Germany I get 35cent / KM for commuting to and from work of a rebate, no such rebate exists in the Netherlands so I only get it one way.

Bottom line is consult a tax advisor, they will save you money if you own a house.

I have a bucket of paper I have to go through for 2009/2010 !!

This is why the EU has absolutely no governance over local taxation systems, there is not easy way to iron out the irregularities.

*tax partner* being either Married, Fiscal Partners or Civil Partnership (Civil Partnership is not recognised in Germany)

**EDIT**

Could you not just apply for the VRT Exemption and then keep the approval documentation for it in the glovebox ?

I got the VRT exemption when I moved back which means I was treated as resident in the UK. The op's wife is a much resident in NI as I was in the UK so so I fail to see why she should be treated differently.

Btw I'm not saying she should look for the exemption as she would not get it as she would have to be moving permanently to Ireland, have a p45 from her NI job etc.

Sean O · 01-06-2010 5:39pm

Bad advice. She might be entitled to a Transfer of Residence exemption as she is already considered to be a resident of the ROI. As I have said before the residency laws for income tax purposes and VRT purposes are different. A judge has no choice but to enforce the law as laid down by the Oireachtas.

Sean O · 01-06-2010 5:41pm

As an aside cross border workers are not considered to be residents of the state in which they are employed.

opinion guy · 01-06-2010 5:51pm

Sean O wrote: »

As an aside cross border workers are not considered to be residents of the state in which they are employed.

Shes not a cross border worker. She lives and works on one side of the border and always has done as we are told. She crosses the border on weekends to visit her husband.

Sean O · 01-06-2010 6:03pm

Legally she is a State resident.

opinion guy · 01-06-2010 6:07pm

Sean O wrote: »

Legally she is a State resident.

Yes yes so you've said. But she's not for VAT and state benefits right ?
IF this is the case then I think this woman should fight it tooth and nail and take it to Europe if necessary

danbohan · 01-06-2010 6:10pm

Sean O wrote: »

This lady would, without any doubt, be considered a State resident. She is not entitled to drive a non-State regisrered vehicle in the Republic of Ireland. She would also not be entitled to Temporary Exemption. She has two options. 1) Pay the appropriate VRT or apply for a Transfer of Residence exemption. Form C&E 1077 is a Transfer of Residence application and can be downloaded from the Revenue website at revenue.ie. The law is quit clear and no amount of ill-informed opinions will change it.

its a great pity our wonderful custom officials are not as good at enforcing on a lot of UK reg hiace vans certain section of the population drive , but then .................

peasant · 01-06-2010 6:11pm

Sean O wrote: »

Legally she is a State resident.

Can I speak to your supervisor / manager, please?

ardmacha · 01-06-2010 6:21pm

People are being obtuse here, as usual with these threads.

How is it in any way right that we essentially abduct her residency without her will in order to impose a tax on her car,

She freely entered into marriage, something which greatly changes your tax status, to your advantage and disadvantage. Were she single she could spend every weekend in Dublin without issue.

She might be entitled to a Transfer of Residence exemption

If she is assumed to have become resident, then she would be entitled to Transfer of Residence, so no VRT should be payable either way.

I'm not saying she should look for the exemption as she would not get it as she would have to be moving permanently to Ireland, have a p45 from her NI job etc.

This has no effect on her NI job.

Could you not just apply for the VRT Exemption and then keep the approval documentation for it in the glovebox ?

I imagine this is what the OP is doing, but this thread goes on and on regardless.

Sean O · 01-06-2010 6:28pm

I am sure the Customs would appreciate any information you might have about any attempts at VRT evasion. Dublin Enforcement (part of Dublin Port District)
Enforcement of Customs & Excise, General Smuggling Prevention, Customs National Drugs Team.

Contact details for the Dublin Enforcement District Address Telephone e-mail
New Customs House, Promenade Road, Dublin 3. 01 877 6400 dubenf@revenue.ie

peasant · 01-06-2010 6:39pm

I think I've discovered a new business venture:

- make up some fake marriage certificates from an obscure country with one Irish resident as one half of the couple
- buy a few NI registered bangers
- place asylum seeker into said banger with said certificate and steer them to the next customs checkpoint in the republic
- automatic residency status is granted

- PROFIT !

01-06-2010 8:23pm

ardmacha wrote: »

She freely entered into marriage, something which greatly changes your tax status, to your advantage and disadvantage. Were she single she could spend every weekend in Dublin without issue.

So basically, She was an NI resident but she married an state resident so became an Irish resident over night. If this is the case the OP has now become an NI resident as he married an NI resident.

So to sum up the op does not have to pay vrt as he is not an Irish resident as he knowingly married an NI resident.

The above shows how ridiculous the argument is.

I don't care what is said about marriage. The woman is an NI resident simple as that, there is nobody here or anywhere else that will convince me that spending a few days a month in Ireland makes her resident.

Sean O · 01-06-2010 9:10pm

I am sure that there are people who still believe in the geocentric model of the universe and that no scientific explanation will change their minds. Lorenzo Small Frost ignores legal facts and persists in concentrating on his ill-informed 'opinion'. Further explanation is pointless.

Esel · 01-06-2010 9:42pm

Divorce.

Cookie_Monster · 01-06-2010 10:37pm

has it been mentioned where they got married. Surely if they were not married in Ireland, rather up north it would mean she no an IE citizen and he is a NI resident?

Sean O · 01-06-2010 10:46pm

Irrelevant

02-06-2010 12:13am

Sean O wrote: »

Irrelevant

You are talking utter rubbish at this stage. You obviously don't want to see someone genuinely being exempt from vrt.

I await your response when the op returns and confirms that he has cleared it up and she is allowed to drive the car

It is not a legal fact, the woman is living in the NI which is part of the United Kingdom, she is there almost everyday, she works there, it is her home. What in the hell does she need to do to be considered a resident?

There is no way on earth your argument would stand up in court you would be thrown out for wasting the judges time.

Sean O · 02-06-2010 12:27am

I have seen your other posts on such matters as trying to avoid payment of road tax and trying to evade payment of VRT. Some of your postings I would regard as disgraceful. You apparently imported one vehicle under the Transfer of Residence provisions and you seem to consider yourself an expert on VRT legislation. Your knowledge is abysmal and I would advise anybody to completely ignore your 'advice'. I will not engage with any further comments you might make on this subject.

02-06-2010 12:41am

Sean O wrote: »

I have seen your other posts on such matters as trying to avoid payment of road tax and trying to evade payment of VRT. Some of your postings I would regard as disgraceful.

Thanks :pac:

Sean O wrote: »

You apparently imported one vehicle under the Transfer of Residence provisions and you seem to consider yourself an expert on VRT legislation. Your knowledge is abysmal and I would advise anybody to completely ignore your 'advice'. I will not engage with any further comments you might make on this subject

I never said I was an expert but I certainly have a very good idea how the system works which I have used to my advantage on a few occasions along with some other things on the subject of vrt which I wont be sharing here.

I do lack your blinkered vision though of trying to apply legislation where at best it is in very shaky territory.

Cookie_Monster · 02-06-2010 8:49am

Eden Wide Evergreen wrote: »

I do lack your blinkered vision though .

Indeed.

Sean O you are being very arrogant and pretty unhelpful in this whole argument. You just dismiss everything out of hand if it even appears not to agree with you, without any proper explanation or quoting the random bits of legislation you keep pointing people at.

What exactly do you do that you think you know you're 100% infallible in this area?

manta356 · 02-06-2010 11:07pm

I know of someone in a similar situation.The husband works and lives in Donegal,while his wife who was originally from Derry has a house in Derry and also works there.
I dont know what nights they spend in which house and care less,but I do know that the Wife was quizzed by Revenue about it and was able to prove her situation.She has changed her car a number of times since and still has her Northern Irish reg and receives no hassle.
From my understanding the OP is in the same situation,and only needs to produce evidence of Wife's work,household bills,tax situation etc.She should then get a letter from Revenue stating her compliance,which she can then show to any Jobsworth at a Vrt checkpoint.

VRT for travelling spouse

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