Michael Schumacher Suffers Serious Head Injury In Skiing Accident

IvaBigWun · 03-01-2014 1:02am

bnt wrote: »

No news on Schumi himself, but the Daily Mail is trying to create a controversy over Lewis Hamilton's ski trip pictures. How dare he smile while his colleague is in hospital?

It's a lost cause, since even they can't keep up the pretence, and are backing off by 1/3 of the way down:

Will Michael be offended by shots of someone else having fun on the slopes? Not likely. :cool:

Its the Daily Mail. Who gives a fúck?

Frank Garrett · 03-01-2014 1:40am

It's Schumacher's birthday today.

Duck Soup · 03-01-2014 2:09am

bnt wrote: »

No news on Schumi himself, but the Daily Mail is trying to create a controversy over Lewis Hamilton's ski trip pictures. How dare he smile while his colleague is in hospital?

It's a lost cause, since even they can't keep up the pretence, and are backing off by 1/3 of the way down:

Will Michael be offended by shots of someone else having fun on the slopes? Not likely. :cool:

As one of the commenters on the Mail's Lewis Hamilton article pointed out, the Mail is running an article calling Hamilton's skiing pics in bad taste, when the Mail themselves went and took pics of the rocks Schumacher's head hit and even zoomed in on the blood in the snow caused by the accident. Yes really.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532565/Michael-Schumachers-wife-arrives-hospital-fourth-day-bedside-vigil-F1-drivers-manager-reveals-stress-taking-toll-her.html

Stay classy, Daily Mail.

Daqster · 03-01-2014 2:23am

bnt wrote: »

No news on Schumi himself, but the Daily Mail is trying to create a controversy over Lewis Hamilton's ski trip pictures.

Eh, no they aren't.

It's a lost cause, since even they can't keep up the pretence, and are backing off by 1/3 of the way down:

The DM decide to create controversy but yet change their mind during their own article?

The Star, The Mirror and Independent were actually the first sites to run that story and DM, when they finally did run it, where the only one of the main media sites to include Lewis's following 'get well tweet' for Michael:

Lewis's Tweet:

Earlier in the week, Hamilton posted a get well message for Schumacher on Twitter, whom doctors yesterday described as being in a stable condition.

Hamilton said: ‘Mine & my family’s prayers & thoughts are with Michael & his family. I wish him a quick recovery. God Bless him. The Hamiltons.’

Duck Soup wrote: »

the Mail is running an article calling Hamilton's skiing pics in bad taste

The DM did not call those pics 'bad taste' - no more than you just did.

They are referring to the people on Instagram and Twitter, which is obvious if you read the article and again, the DM were the only news site (of the main four or five that carried the story) that bothered to include Lewis's get well tweet, thereby giving it context and they also even included a screen cap of it, leaving people in no doubt as to what a decent guy Lewis is.

And so, yet again we have the DM getting vilified for little. What's new.

Guess people would rather rant about the big bad DM than let something as simple as the facts get in the way.

Duck Soup · 03-01-2014 2:50am

Daqster wrote: »

The DM did not call those pics 'bad taste' - no more than you just did.

They are referring to the people on Instagram and Twitter, which is obvious if you read the article and again, the DM's article is the only one of the main four or five news sites that bother to show Lewis's get well tweet, let alone include a screen cap of it as they did with Lewis's original post by the way.

Newspapers are creatures of caution - they habitually preface half their articles with 'allegedly' and the other half...well, the other half they use other people's words to do their dirty work for them.

The headline is unequivocal. Fans blast Hamilton's 'bad taste' ski photos: F1 driver posts snaps online as Schumacher lies in coma

The sub-heads drive home the message. Formula One star has been accused of acting in 'horrendously bad taste'

This is how newspapers skirt round libel laws. Rather than a newspaper taking an editorial position, they report and amplify an existing section of opinion.

So for example, the Mail pre-WW2 might have run a headline that said "That Mr Hitler is a terribly nice chap" and put underneath in smaller type "says Prime Minister Chamberlain."

This is how newspapers operate. If the Mail disagreed with the sentiment from online commenters, then they could simply not have run the story. It's a hatchet job posing as news.

Although I will take something back. The Mail didn't go out and photograph the rocks that cracked Schumacher's head and the bloody snow nearby. They paid the Picture Alliance photo news agency for their shots of the same.

Daqster · 03-01-2014 2:59am

Duck Soup wrote: »

This is how newspapers skirt round libel laws. Rather than a newspaper taking an editorial position, they report and amplify an existing section of opinion.

Yes, I agree with you, that is generally how newspapers operate. However, we have screencaps of the tweets which they were referring to.

We KNOW that other people posted that stuff and the DM (and other news sites) were just quoting them.

So again, the DM did not call, nor infer, that Lewis Hamilton's tweets were 'bad taste'.

In fact, as I have said above, they went out of their way to include the tweets that Lewis made wishing Michael well (screen capped them in fact) thereby putting his holiday tweets in context, which was something that almost none of the other news sites did.

Akrasia · 03-01-2014 10:02am

The daily mail are sh1t stirring like they always do.

They don't care about the 'content' of their 'news', they only want to drive traffic to their site, and it works.

Duck Soup · 04-01-2014 3:16pm

Difference of messages between Schumacher's manager, Sabine Kehm and a Schumacher friend and former F1 driver, Philippe Streiff.

Sabine Kehm maintains the official line, which is that Schumacher is serious but stable and his life remains "in danger".

Philippe Streiff says he's been told off the record that Schumacher is now considered out of danger: “I'm not a doctor, I'm repeating what Gerard Saillant (surgeon and friend of the Schumacher family) told me. Gerard Saillant said it is a serious condition but his life is not in danger anymore now, thankfully.”

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/michael-schumacher-remains-critical-but-stable-according-to-family-29888557.html

Atlantic Dawn · 04-01-2014 9:24pm

Schumacher on repeat of Top Gear on RTÉ2 now.

colm_mcm · 15-01-2014 10:03pm

Not looking great

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540017/Fears-grow-Michael-Schumacher-coma-rest-life.html

Artful_Badger · 15-01-2014 10:08pm

Doesnt look like anything but speculation to warm up a story thats gone a bit cold to me.

colm_mcm · 15-01-2014 10:12pm

That's true, I suppose it should be remembered that the coma was induced, and these things take time.
Also this is the daily mail.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 15-01-2014 10:16pm

Daniel Albecht was in a coma for 3 weeks after a ski racing accident in Kitzbuhel, made a full recovery. I don't like comparing comparing Michael's injury to others but it isn't the first time someone has been in a coma for 18 days after a skiing accident.

Plus, Schumacher turned 45 on the 3rd of January, so you can see the great level of detailed research the DM have put into this story. :rolleyes:

16-01-2014 12:05am

****ing scumbag Daily Mail.

PropJoe10 · 16-01-2014 1:44am

The sooner the Daily Mail is shut down, the better for mankind in general. Terrible article just trying to stir ****.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 16-01-2014 2:13am

PropJoe10 wrote: »

The sooner the Daily Mail is shut down, the better for mankind in general. Terrible article just trying to stir ****.

I'm constantly saying when these types of speculative articles come out that we shouldn't heed it unless it's confirmed by Jean Francois Payen (Anaesthetist - Induced Schumacher in coma), Emmanuel Gay (Neurosurgeon - Carried out second operation to remove haematoma on left side of brain), Stephan Chabardes (Neurosurgeon - Carried out first operation (a decompressive craniectomy) to relieve Intra-Cranial Pressure and haematoma), Sabine Kehm (Manager and PR Officer), Corrina Schumacher (Wife), Rolf Schumacher (Father), Ralf Schumacher (Brother), Gerard Saillant (Neurosurgeon, Friend of Schumacher. Helped with rehabilitation after broken leg in July 1999), or an OFFICIAL representative for the hospital. It's for the best and we won't get false information from them.

PropJoe10 · 16-01-2014 2:17am

Yeah, all you get from rags like the Daily Fail is insensitivity and sensational headlines.

Akrasia · 16-01-2014 9:17am

The Daily mail are just pathetic.

The doctors who are caring for him have decided to leave him in a Coma to give him the best possible chance to recover and the Daily Mail use this as a headline to say he will never recover

When the doctors decide it's time to wake him up, if he does make a recovery, the Daily Mail will put up headlines like 'Schumacher's miracle recovery' Schumacher recovers despite doctors saying he would never wake up" or some other rubbish.

SnowDrifts · 16-01-2014 9:49am

Gary Hartstein's thoughts on the recent speculation

http://formerf1doc.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/these-recent-reports/

burnhardlanger · 16-01-2014 10:12am

Should it be an infraction to post links to the DM website?
If you could stop generating traffic to their shiddy shid stirring articles then it wouldn't generate as many hits

SnowDrifts · 17-01-2014 4:35pm

Statement today from Kelm regarding Michael's condition for the first time doesn't mention the word "critical".

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24191/9120624/michael-schumacher-still-in-a-stable-condition-in-hospital-reports-his-manager

Here is the full statement translated...

https://twitter.com/bgarloff/status/424200543767396352/photo/1

DEFTLEFTHAND · 17-01-2014 4:40pm

If everyone hates the Mail so much then stop quoting from it. It's getting really annoying.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 17-01-2014 4:42pm

If that statement isn't updated later to include "critical", I'll be very happy.

SnowDrifts · 17-01-2014 4:45pm

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

If that statement isn't updated later to include "critical", I'll be very happy.

Yes exactly. It could be the case that the omission of the word "critical" from the statement is not necessarily the same as if it was stated "Michael is no longer critical."

LordSutch · 18-01-2014 1:10am

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

If that statement isn't updated later to include "critical", I'll be very happy.

By the way Peanut Butter, what does that piece of ye olde 'ink pen' manuscript mean on your posts?

Peanut Butter Jelly · 18-01-2014 1:11am

LordSutch wrote: »

By the way Peanut Butter, what does that piece of ye olde 'ink pen' manuscript mean on your posts?

Tis m'ainm as gaeilge with old style spelling.

LordSutch · 18-01-2014 1:15am

That's alright, so its you name in Irish in old style spelling, Its just so big, I was wondering

Thanks.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 18-01-2014 1:19am

Yeah, it's set as my sig cause it's pretty unique.

OT: If by 7pm tomorrow, there's no mention of critical in an update, we MAY be able to do a little happy dance.

dark crystal · 30-01-2014 1:32am

French media reporting that Schumacher's doctors have apparantly begun the process of taking him out of his medically induced coma and say he is responding positively:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548067/Doctors-begun-process-taking-Michael-Schumacher-coma-claim-French-media.html

His medical team aren't giving much away, though.

PropJoe10 · 30-01-2014 1:17pm

His sedation is being reduced today apparently, to allow the waking up process to start. Lets all hope for the best.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25963926

Gael23 · 12-02-2014 6:25pm

http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/12/comatose-michael-schumacher-contracts-lung-infection-report/
Not a good sign. I dont like the sound of this

ScumLord · 12-02-2014 6:29pm

ryanf1 wrote: »

http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/12/comatose-michael-schumacher-contracts-lung-infection-report/
Not a good sign. I dont like the sound of this

Looks more like a rumor than anyting.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 12-02-2014 6:37pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again, when these types of speculative articles come out, we shouldn't heed it unless it's confirmed by Jean Francois Payen (Anaesthetist - Induced Schumacher in coma), Emmanuel Gay (Neurosurgeon - Carried out second operation to remove haematoma on left side of brain), Stephan Chabardes (Neurosurgeon - Carried out first operation (a decompressive craniectomy) to relieve Intra-Cranial Pressure and haematoma), Sabine Kehm (Manager and PR Officer), Corrina Schumacher (Wife), Rolf Schumacher (Father), Ralf Schumacher (Brother), Gerard Saillant (Surgeon, Friend of Schumacher. Helped with rehabilitation after broken leg in July 1999), or an OFFICIAL representative for the hospital. It's for the best and we won't get false information from them.

Brendan Flowers · 04-04-2014 11:26am

Apparently Schumacher is showing "moments of consciousness", according to his agent/BBC Sport

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26885624

I know this doesn't mean he's going to recover but at least it gives some hope.

Gael23 · 04-04-2014 11:37am

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Apparently Schumacher is showing "moments of consciousness", according to his agent/BBC Sport

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26885624

I know this doesn't mean he's going to recover but at least it gives some hope.

It means very little. With a brain injury, any progress is usually made rather quickly so although its looking like he will live, the chances of severe and permanent brain damage are fairly high

tvnutz · 16-06-2014 11:55am

Surprised I didn't see this, his manage released a statement saying he is no longer in a coma and has left the hospital. That's a bit out of the blue and unexpected!

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24191/9350659/michael-schumacher-no-longer-in-a-coma-and-has-left-grenoble-hospital

Michael Schumacher is no longer in coma and has left Grenoble Hospital, his manager has announced.

Schumacher has been a patient at the hospital for over five months following a skiing accident at the end of December in which he suffered severe head injuries. Schumacher's life is believed to have been saved by the helmet he was wearing at the time of the accident, which split in two upon impact.

It was announced at the end of January that the 'waking up progress' had begun in Schumacher's treatment, but a paucity of updates since then has prompted growing fears about his condition and hopes of a recovery.

However, in a heartening and unexpected announcement, it's been revealed that Schumacher is no longer in a coma at the hospital in the south of France and has been moved to an undisclosed location.

'Michael has left the CHU Grenoble to continue his long phase of rehabilitation. He is not in a coma anymore,' a statement, released on Monday morning, read.

The news that the seven-times World Champion has left the facility is the first official update on the German's condition since April when it was reported that Schumacher was showing signs of 'consciousness and awakening'.

No fresh details about Michael's condition have been supplied, with the latest statement adding: 'For the future we ask for understanding that his future rehabilitation will take place away from the public eye.'

The statement in full
'Michael has left the CHU Grenoble to continue his long phase of rehabilitation. He is not in a coma anymore. His family would like to explicitly thank all his treating doctors, nurses and therapists in Grenoble as well as the first aiders at the place of the accident, who did an excellent job in those first months. The family also wishes to thank all the people who have sent Michael all the many good wishes to Michael. We are sure it helped him. For the future we ask for understanding that his further rehabilitation will take place away from the public eye.'

More to follow...

Fiolina · 16-06-2014 12:15pm

I really, really hope the media will respect his privacy.

A cow called Daisy · 16-06-2014 2:18pm

Fiolina wrote: »

I really, really hope the media will respect his privacy.

Agree totally with you.

However I would be surprised if there isn't one scumbag who won't respect their wishes. They have printed lots before this that they shouldnt of done. But then there are people who buy these papers/magazines to see these photos and they have to accept some of the responsibility.

Semele · 16-06-2014 9:32pm

Two years working in a brain injury care home has sadly taught me that "not in a coma" means very little. There are 15 official stages of consciousness and a lot of the clients there (some of whom had had ski-ing accidents or similar) were not remotely conscious in a laymans sense of the word, just responding to stimuli enough to no longer meet a medical definition of coma*. I hope it isn't the case this time, as it could be awful for families who didn't understand and thought it meant recovery, then were crushed when there was so little meaningful change:(

*e.g. The awfully named Persistent Vegetative State, or Minimally Conscious State were two of the lower-end categories.

The Aussie · 16-06-2014 9:50pm

Semele wrote: »

Two years working in a brain injury care home.

Tough job, one i don't think I could do, you have my utmost respect.

Tar.Aldarion · 16-06-2014 10:09pm

I doubt he is ina very good way yet, maybe he won't be? They have little reason to not let people know if there is very good news.

Rucking_Fetard · 18-10-2014 8:30pm

(Reuters) - GoPro Inc's shares fell as much as 16 percent on Monday after a French journalist suggested that Formula 1 legend Michael Schumacher's injuries in a ski accident last year might have been caused by a wearable camera made by the company.

"The problem for Michael was not the hit, but the mounting of the GoPro camera that he had on his helmet that injured his brain," Jean-Louis Moncet told radio station Europe 1 over the weekend.

The company's shares ended down 9.8 percent at $76.67 on the Nasdaq on Monday. Up to Friday's close, the stock had nearly quadrupled in value since the company listed on June 26.

Shares of other wearable camera makers also fell, with Digital Ally Inc closing 12.9 percent lower at $10.41 and Taser International Inc ending 3.2 percent down at $13.61.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/13/us-gopro-stocks-idUSKCN0I226D20141013

Son Of A Vidic · 18-10-2014 9:20pm

Any actual updates on how Schuey is doing?

michael999999 · 18-10-2014 9:23pm

Rucking_Fetard wrote: »

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/13/us-gopro-stocks-idUSKCN0I226D20141013

Ya. Heard that on Matt Cooper during the week.

Michael Schumacher Suffers Serious Head Injury In Skiing Accident

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