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Why more wind farms & Pylons needed

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  • #52
    djpbarry
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    Thread entitled "News: DE: “New power lines are needed, and fast”!" merged into this one.


  • #53
    Birdnuts
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    Oldtree wrote: »
    What landscape value do the German's place on their scenery?

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/wind-energy-encounters-problems-and-resistance-in-germany-a-910816.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=

    Appears to be growing concerns among Germans about the blind rush into wind energy and its environmental/economic costs


  • #54
    Impetus
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    Birdnuts wrote: »
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/wind-energy-encounters-problems-and-resistance-in-germany-a-910816.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=

    Appears to be growing concerns among Germans about the blind rush into wind energy and its environmental/economic costs

    1) I don't believe it is a "blind rush". Successive German governments realised that one has to "break eggs to make an omelet".

    2) German car manufacturers are aware that Tesla is making inroads into their car segment with electric cars. They know they will have to come up with better products. These will need lots of electricity and will be able to store electricity in times "when the wind is blowing" etc. Success in this area will improve the position of German car sales in the world and reduce energy imports into Germany, as well as lowering pollution - a win-win scenario.

    3) There is a lot of media hype everywhere. It gets an audience which drives advertising sales.

    4) More importantly, there is no need for Ireland to engage in a blind rush into wind or anything else. The initiative started off slowly and has developed as the country gets used to the practical impact of each iteration. If the process is well managed, one can overcome the obstacles with intelligent design, planning, and well thought through communication with the various public interest groups based on thorough research and analysis.


  • #55
    Greensleeves
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    Opposition to pylons in Germany is growing according to this piece in the Guardian.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/07/north-south-divide-threatens-germany-renewable-energy?CMP=twt_gu


  • #56
    Impetus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Impetus


    Greensleeves wrote: »
    Opposition to pylons in Germany is growing according to this piece in the Guardian.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/07/north-south-divide-threatens-germany-renewable-energy?CMP=twt_gu

    Anyone who has lived in Germany, even for a short period, will know, polite and all as most Germans are, it is a country of protest. Bavaria is the richest state in Germany, almost as rich as Switzerland, with high property values, and thus has an amplified "not in my backyard" lobby.

    However much of Bavaria's wealth comes from the automotive industry - eg BMW and Audi for example, not to mention Siemens. Both car manufacturers are watching Tesla whose stockmarket capitalisation has gone from 0 to 22.8 billion (as of last Friday), in a few years. BMW has been around for decades, and is only worth about 53 billion. Audi does not have a stockmarket listing of its own because it is part of VW AG. However VW is the largest spender on research and development in the world of any company - about 14 billion a year, and one suspects that much of this is on the electric car platform.

    There will be a big more from cars powered by middle eastern and North Sea oil over the next few decades to electricity, and it will take a long time to build out the power generation and grid infrastructure to meet this demand.


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