Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12-Jan 2012 onwards

Blatter wrote: »

Why do you think that? Isn't Liverpool's revenue similar to Spurs'? And Spurs have plenty of quality players, many of whom are only going to get better; Bale, Kaboul, Lennon, Modric, Walker, Sandro, BAE, Livermore etc. supplemented by the likes of VDV, King, Dawson, Parker, Huddlestone, Defoe, Gallas, Pienaar etc.

If they do end up selling Bale and/or Modric eventually they well get an absolute fortune for both. And if they were to reinvest that money correctly, they could become even better. They are very likely to be in the CL next season, so may spend a fair bit of money improving an already very good squad in the Summer - and Redknapp is likely to leave and I can see them attracting a top class manager.

I agree with your point in general that people are often too short sighted and place far too much emphasis on what is happening in the present as an indication as to what will happen in the future, but I'm not sure I can see how one can say Liverpool have better medium to long term prospects that Spurs. They seem to be very well placed for the future as far as I can see.

My understanding is that Liverpool have a significantly broader revenue base than Spurs considering recent commercial agreements (also 8.5k more seats in Anfield too if I remember correctly and they have probably maxed out what can be reasonably charged for tickets). I also think that they are going to suffer the loss of key players within the next couple of years for various reasons, and probably their current manager also. For better or worse, the Spurs team that took the field yesterday will probably look very different to the Spurs team that takes the field two / three years hence.

This year they have played essentially a scratch side in cup competitions and they will have to do a lot of strengthening to feasibly compete in both the CL and Prem. It would also require a significant shift in owner mentality, considering the reluctance over recent seasons to have a significant net spend in the transfer market.

Obviously, all those hurdles could be jumped. But comparatively, Liverpool have owners willing to spend who are commercially saavy and already committed to the restructure of our squad. My belief is that we will be in better shape than Spurs because of a more settled and solid squad following the next three or four transfer windows.

Spearing to play v City and Utd?

I fúcking hope so.

ush wrote: »

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Liverpool have owners willing to spend who are commercially saavy and already committed to the restructure of our squad.

Haven't seen the required coughing up of dough this transfer window.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

My belief is that we will be in better shape than Spurs because of a more settled and solid squad following the next three or four transfer windows.

We're in the middle of a transfer window. Some people are talking about transfer windows as if there all off in the distant future.

And there's more to it than Spurs. NUFC are sniffin' around these days. City have become a force which they weren't when we played CL football. Thats one less possible top 4 place for us.

--> **our transfer window starts 31/1/2012 23:00 GMT**

Liverpool are leading the chase to sign Udinese defender Mauricio Isla - region of £10m.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/1484/32/liverpool-eyeing-%C2%A310m-rated-udinese-defender

Opr

manual_man wrote: »

Liverpool will sign Andy Johnson. Kenny told me

A cross between Andy Carrol and Glen Johnson?? Excellent!

Kess73 wrote: »

Two far superior players in the Chilean midfield that I would have in a heartbeat before him.

Vidal at Juve (no chance of us getting him imho but fantastic player) or Medel at Sevilla (Think Mascherano but a few notches up in terms of timing and aggression)

He's bloody mental

But how long will Chelsea and Arsenal be floundering? Is a rubbish excuse to be honest. They are floundering and we still can't catch them. Now is the time to overtake them, not when they are strong. When Rafa was here he was competing with an extremely strong trio of Chelsea, Utd and Arsenal.

Medel would seem a good signing to me, but there has been no real sign that C and K are interested in him. In the same way that we discussed Arda Turan in here an awful lot the 18 months before he moved for a cut price fee.

Our near misses last summer included Jones and Wickam - the current MO does not involve the likes of Medel it seems...

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Medel would seem a good signing to me, but there has been no real sign that C and K are interested in him. In the same way that we discussed Arda Turan in here an awful lot the 18 months before he moved for a cut price fee.

Our near misses last summer included Jones and Wickam - the current MO does not involve the likes of Medel it seems...

Would appear like you are correct in terms of what we seem to look at. Madness not to be looking at some of the cut price players around Europe though. We missed out on some crackers in the last window.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Hadn't completed a deal this time last year either! And I would prefer to stand pat till the summer if it means overpaying or panic buying.

Phew, still time to sign an Andy Carroll then.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yeah City are magnificent and all conquering. But Arsenal have regressed significantly and have major issues with the current make up of their squad and how difficult it would be for a different manager to restructure (it's built to play a certain type of football).

Newcastle have depended hugely on a player with massive medical issues around him, and have enjoyed general overperformance from a couple of players in their defensive rotation. Pardew deserves a lot of credit, but I'm not worried (OMG! THEY'RE AHEAD OF US IN THE LEAGUE).

Arsenal and Chelsea have problems and are also in a transitional stage. And we still haven't taken advantage of that.

And my points about NUFC and THFC aren't so much that they're ahead of us, but rather that we haven't stamped our authority on the league. Which we would have done if hadn't been faffing about in the league cup. Too much energy wasted defending Suarez with an ill-advised strategy. And too much focus will be spent on the domestic cups. Look at the league games after this week.

I don't think we can continue the position we have, in the greater scheme of things, solely based on historical reasons. Alot of the revenue from internet streaming that FSW are counting on requires continued success on the pitch.

Another 5-10 years tops. And every transfer window that isn't capitalised on will make it harder.

Kess73 wrote: »

Would appear like you are correct in terms of what we seem to look at. Madness not to be looking at some of the cut price players around Europe though. We missed out on some crackers in the last window.

And the likes of Krasic and VDV the previous summer.

Mr Alan wrote: »

I wouldn't like VDV at Liverpool.

Maybe that's irrational, but I've never been bothered we didn't get him.

*Shrugs* Rather him than Henderson - les than half the price too. That summer we got the mighty Joe Cole, and they got a productive creator for significantly less in wages.

God, we really have sucked in the transfer market the last few years...