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Correct regulator for propane cylinder?

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  • 30-01-2014 5:44pm
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    DeepSleeper
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭


    I've been having issues with weak gas supply in my (rented) house lately and I was thinking a faulty regulator might be the problem - this is fitted to a tall (47kg?) cylinder which supplies a 5-burner hob on my dual-fuel cooker.

    In looking at the system outside the house, it seems that a Clesse changeover system (automatic or manual - not sure which) was replaced (left fixed to the wall, but disconnected) by a simple regulator that looks like this:

    ha9662.jpg

    I was thinking of getting this regulator replaced to see if a new one would solve the occasional weak-supply issues, but the Hamilton Gas Products website does not say this is suitable for cookers - it seems to be 'Ideal for smaller BBQs, Boiling Rings and Patio Heaters with up to a 9kw input rating' which suggests to me it may be inadequate for our cooker.Am I correct? I don't want to replace to wrong regulator with another wrong regulator!! Any help would be appreciated!


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    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    DeepSleeper wrote: »
    I've been having issues with weak gas supply in my (rented) house lately and I was thinking a faulty regulator might be the problem - this is fitted to a tall (47kg?) cylinder which supplies a 5-burner hob on my dual-fuel cooker.

    In looking at the system outside the house, it seems that a Clesse changeover system (automatic or manual - not sure which) was replaced (left fixed to the wall, but disconnected) by a simple regulator that looks like this:

    ha9662.jpg

    I was thinking of getting this regulator replaced to see if a new one would solve the occasional weak-supply issues, but the Hamilton Gas Products website does not say this is suitable for cookers - it seems to be 'Ideal for smaller BBQs, Boiling Rings and Patio Heaters with up to a 9kw input rating' which suggests to me it may be inadequate for our cooker.Am I correct? I don't want to replace to wrong regulator with another wrong regulator!! Any help would be appreciated!

    Are you RGI?


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    DeepSleeper
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭DeepSleeper


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Are you RGI?

    No - How many RGIs have to post simple questions about the gas regulators on their own homes?? :rolleyes:


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    Billy Bunting
    Registered Users Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    DeepSleeper wrote: »
    No :rolleyes:

    Then that's for us to know and you to find out. - by the use of a RGI, who's job it is to know and fit such equipment.


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    DeepSleeper
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭DeepSleeper


    Billy Bunting wrote: »
    Then that's for us to know and you to find out.

    Nice :rolleyes:


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    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    DeepSleeper wrote: »
    Nice :rolleyes:

    For your own sake get an Rgi in to do it.


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    DeepSleeper
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭DeepSleeper


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    For your own sake get an Rgi in to do it.

    In my original post I said "I was thinking of getting this regulator replaced ..." - I never said I would me undertaking this myself.

    My question was not about skills or training required, it was not asking for advice on how to do it - it just wanted to know if a like-for-like replacement is required or if a significant upgrade is required, as this would clearly have an impact on the cost. I'd like to be able to estimate the parts cost involved here before going any further.


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    Billy Bunting
    Registered Users Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    DeepSleeper wrote: »
    In my original post I said "I was thinking of getting this regulator replaced ..." - I never said I would me undertaking this myself.

    .

    And in your second post you had attitude. :rolleyes:


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    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Billy Bunting wrote: »
    And in your second post you had attitude. :rolleyes:

    And third


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    DeepSleeper
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭DeepSleeper


    Billy Bunting wrote: »
    And in your second post you had attitude. :rolleyes:

    The second post was a reply to the question 'Are you RGI?'

    How could anyone think I was a Registered Gas Installer on the basis of the information presented in the first post?


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    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    DeepSleeper wrote: »
    The second post was a reply to the question 'Are you RGI?'

    How could anyone think I was a Registered Gas Installer on the basis of the information presented in the first post?
    I meant by "are you Rgi" as in stay away from the job. Get an Rgi to price it for you and they will tell you if it is appropriate. How am I to know that you won't order it yourself and have a go at it yourself??


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    DeepSleeper
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭DeepSleeper


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    And third

    Right lads - I give up! I have tried over the years to give helpful advice to many posters on Boards.ie when they asked simple questions about matters I work with on a daily basis - Yesterday I asked a simple question in the hope of getting a little advice on something I know little about.

    I have never treated a poster with a simple, honest question in the way you have treated me, so I'm out of here.


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    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    DeepSleeper wrote: »
    Right lads - I give up! I have tried over the years to give helpful advice to many posters on Boards.ie when they asked simple questions about matters I work with on a daily basis - Yesterday I asked a simple question in the hope of getting a little advice on something I know little about.

    I have never treated a poster with a simple, honest question in the way you have treated me, so I'm out of here.

    If you understood the potential risks involved you'd understand


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    Billy Bunting
    Registered Users Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    DeepSleeper wrote: »
    I have never treated a poster with a simple, honest question in the way you have treated me, so I'm out of here.

    Your simple question was followed up by attitude to the initial response, attitude you seem to be blind to.
    I suggest you address this before your next request for help from Boards members, who are here to help after all. ;)


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    wilser
    Registered Users Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭wilser


    Not sure what part of the country you are but barrets of maynooth usually have those regulators in stock, and they'll advise which one suits you best


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    BrenCooney
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭BrenCooney


    Have used RGI installers that didn't know either, in a laboratory setting. Nearly blew the place up with a few tens of people in the building the next morning. So don't say RGI will ensure a good job. A bit less of the arrogance wouldn't go astray gents!!!


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    #17
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    BrenCooney wrote: »
    Have used RGI installers that didn't know either, in a laboratory setting. Nearly blew the place up with a few tens of people in the building the next morning. So don't say RGI will ensure a good job. A bit less of the arrogance wouldn't go astray gents!!!

    Yes but an Rgi is the only one who can legally do it, not some DIY idiot


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    DGOBS
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭DGOBS


    The posters here are correct in not giving out advise of this nature, in the spirit of safety.

    In fairness your original post would have been seen as a DIY question the way it was posed.

    Under an RGIs duty of care they would be required to point out to you illegal works etc. that could be undertaken and the pitfalls etc.

    So in good faith, all that can be suggested here is allow an RGI to come inspect and give guidance on site.

    DPT watch the insults, next time it will result in an infraction

    Best Regards


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