Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

kronsington · 11-03-2012 11:53am

jesus christ. ive just woken up with the worst hangover and see lots of "reports" about rvp joining city. please tell me they're from the rags. this isn't good. this isn't good at all. part of me was thinking he might actually stay. but if he had to leave i could grudgingly accept if he went to barca or real. but please not city. that would be so disappointing, enraging and we could be officially classed as their feeder club

gnfnrhead · 11-03-2012 11:54am

It's not happening lads. I guarantee it.

Noo · 11-03-2012 12:16pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

It's not happening lads. I guarantee it.

I concur.

emergingstar · 11-03-2012 12:50pm

Not a hope we sell RVP if he don't sign I reckon we keep him in his final year
Lots of reports this morning that gzote is our number one target and we're willing to pay big bucks for him.
Hope it's true

Radharc na Sleibhte · 11-03-2012 12:59pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2113246/Arsene-Wenger-break-bank-Mario-Gotze.html

Imagine poor Wenger getting choked

:D
His Cologne days are finito anyway!

Redzer7 · 11-03-2012 1:02pm

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2113246/Arsene-Wenger-break-bank-Mario-Gotze.html

Imagine poor Wenger getting choked :D
His Cologne days are finito anyway!

Says in that article that we fear Song is going to leave and we have lined Yann M'Vila as a replacement :pac:

emergingstar · 11-03-2012 1:03pm

Redzer7 wrote: »

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2113246/Arsene-Wenger-break-bank-Mario-Gotze.html

Imagine poor Wenger getting choked :D
His Cologne days are finito anyway!

Says in that article that we fear Song is going to leave and we have lined Yann M'Vila as a replacement :pac:

I hope song stays massively underrated from people in this thread

Mickeroo · 11-03-2012 1:04pm

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2113246/Arsene-Wenger-break-bank-Mario-Gotze.html

Imagine poor Wenger getting choked :D
His Cologne days are finito anyway!

Is that kind of thing not in danger of wenger pulling the plug on the deal?

Really hope thats true about Gotze. Also says Song is on the way out an M'Villa on the way in?

Radharc na Sleibhte · 11-03-2012 1:08pm

I wouldnt believe anything in the mail to be honest.
The Podolski picture tells its own story.
Hopefully it doesnt affect our deal.
Personally, i cant wait for Podolski.

Redzer7 · 11-03-2012 1:10pm

emergingstar wrote: »

I hope song stays massively underrated from people in this thread

Ah I absolutely agree, it just seems like it's taking from totally out of the blue.

gosplan · 11-03-2012 1:15pm

kronsington wrote:

please tell me they're from the rags.

Middle eastern rags even.

Not saying it'd never happen but the idea that talks have happened and a wage has been agreed is laughable.

emergingstar · 11-03-2012 1:17pm

I also hope we agree a deal with Walcott, van Persie loves him and we don't want to be upsetting the skipper :-)

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 11-03-2012 1:37pm

Bouchra van Persie ‏ @Bouchra_vP
Rumours, rumours, rumours pfff getting tired of them. Please don't believe anything unless it comes from @Persie_Official him self.

Thats what Van Persies Mrs has to say anyway. I think he'll stay even if he doesn't sign a new contract. I really don't think it's about the money for him. If we can finish top 4 and show some ambition in the summer he should sign on hopefully.

greendom · 11-03-2012 1:44pm

i really can't see him going to City. i'd be more nervous if Barca started sniffing

tayto lover · 11-03-2012 2:00pm

Paper NEVER refuses ink.
RVP is going nowhere.

Galvasean · 11-03-2012 2:06pm

It does suck to be an Arsenal fan. We finally start playing really well and the papers want to talk about us selling our best player than acknowledging our fine form.

Galvasean · 11-03-2012 2:18pm

Young Irish striker Phil Roberts scored for the under 19s the other day. Anyone know much about him?
http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/3429884/youth/arsenal-yth-v-aston-villa-yth?tab=report

ImpossibleDuck · 11-03-2012 2:55pm

Hahahaha reading this RVP story in tears of laughter. Not a hope!!

Isn't the legally impossible for him to sign a (pre-) contract with City until he has less than 9 months left on his current contract?

I could see through it if we was actually INTO his last year of his contract, but he's contracted to Summer 2013...isn't is usually around the turn of NEXT year that clubs could offer him a pre-contract?!

Radharc na Sleibhte · 11-03-2012 3:16pm

Is the lof thread gone?
Sherlocks law?

Pierce_1991 · 11-03-2012 3:21pm

After a few beers on Friday I said that if RVP leaves for Man City I'm never going to watch football ever again. Even in the cold light of day it doesn't seem like it would be an over reaction. I really don't think he'll go anywhere, but to see him playing for City would make me sick.

Radharc na Sleibhte · 11-03-2012 3:23pm

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

After a few beers on Friday I said that if RVP leaves for Man City I'm never going to watch football ever again. Even in the cold light of day it doesn't seem like it would be an over reaction. I really don't think he'll go anywhere, but to see him playing for City would make me sick.

Agree.
My faith in football and those that play it is quite low.
If RVP turns around and boots us in the hole I will be very hurt tbh.

batistuta9 · 11-03-2012 3:40pm

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2113246/Arsene-Wenger-break-bank-Mario-Gotze.html

Imagine poor Wenger getting choked :D
His Cologne days are finito anyway!

Mickeroo wrote: »

Is that kind of thing not in danger of wenger pulling the plug on the deal?

Really hope thats true about Gotze. Also says Song is on the way out an M'Villa on the way in?

podolski was asked about it recently & wouldn't confirm it, maybe a deal has only been reached with koln.

as for gotze did anyone see these comments on the same site as the story

Its unbelievable arrogant to think Götze will join Arsenal or any other english club!!!Maybe you've not noticed that the Premier League isn't the ultimate goal for skillful Players!!! Have you ever heard Götze speaking about his DREAM to play for Barcelona since he was a little boy??? He will stay at Dortmund and then move to Spain!!! Mesut Özil was the same case, he always said his dream is to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid, but english media knew it better and were speculating about a move to england - we know the result!!! Why always the red arrows, when someone says Götze won't join Arsenal??? Its just the truth, deal with it.
- Dennis, Germany, 11/3/2012 13:12

You will not get Mario Gotze for £25m. Such ignorance has led me to the conclusion this story is rubbish.
- Phillip, Dortmund, 11/3/2012 11:34

I know they mightn't even be german but the first seems right - google gotze dream club - & the second one would be true enough i'd imaging, although it depends on how long his contract is

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

Hahahaha reading this RVP story in tears of laughter. Not a hope!!

Isn't the legally impossible for him to sign a (pre-) contract with City until he has less than 9 months left on his current contract?

I could see through it if we was actually INTO his last year of his contract, but he's contracted to Summer 2013...isn't is usually around the turn of NEXT year that clubs could offer him a pre-contract?!

you usually seem level headed enough so i can't understand how you or anyone else doesn't think that this could possibly happen, i also think he'll stay at the club or even be made stay but wouldn't be 100% surprised if he left either but would be a bit shocked if it was city

this sort of talk will only start picking up from now on too unless he signs. as for the pre-contract, like yourself, i've only really heard of them being signed in the january before the contract is up but this is on wiki & there's been talk of neymar signing for real/barca on a pre-contract but don't know how long he's got on his

A club may sign a pre-contract with a player while he is still with another club, by which the player agrees to move to the club at a future date, for example, after his contract with his current club expires.
Another situation may be where the current club is also a party to the pre-contract, and the transfer is conditional, for example, on a fee being agreed between the clubs or terms being agreed between the player and the new club, or the transfer is intended to take effect only after the player reaches a certain age.
The pre-contract is intended to prevent a third club from signing the player while details are still being negotiated or when the future date arrives.
As the player's registration remains with the current club, however, the existence of a pre-contract may be unknown to other clubs who wish to sign the player.

don't know if this was mentioned at the time but according to this: link matias suarez has been signed on a pre-contract, but there's 'a few bits and pieces that need to be ironed out'

batistuta9 · 11-03-2012 3:43pm

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

Is the lof thread gone?
Sherlocks law?

i was asking this yesterday but no one replied, it's disappeared from my threads & doesn't come up in a search.
it must be because of that tit.

Mickeroo · 11-03-2012 3:49pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

i was asking this yesterday but no one replied, it's disappeared from my threads & doesn't come up in a search.
it must be because of that tit.

whats the lof thread?

Redzer7 · 11-03-2012 3:51pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

i was asking this yesterday but no one replied, it's disappeared from my threads & doesn't come up in a search.
it must be because of that tit.

What's the LOF thread

L'prof · 11-03-2012 3:52pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

batistuta9 wrote: »

i was asking this yesterday but no one replied, it's disappeared from my threads & doesn't come up in a search.
it must be because of that tit.

whats the lof thread?

liveonlinefooty

batistuta9 · 11-03-2012 3:53pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

whats the lof thread?

it's was a thread about a site - liveonlinefooty - and another site that you can watch all the games/sky on

batistuta9 · 11-03-2012 3:54pm

L'prof wrote: »

liveonlinefooty

you use to post in there, is it definitely gone?

Redzer7 · 11-03-2012 3:55pm

Yeah it would be gone because of oul Sherlock Holmes, now it's known as "omelette recipes".

L'prof · 11-03-2012 3:58pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

L'prof wrote: »

liveonlinefooty

you use to post in there, is it definitely gone?

No idea, haven't used the thread in a while. Not much need to be honest.

Radharc na Sleibhte · 11-03-2012 5:26pm

The reason I asked was because of the notice up on the lof site since yesterday.
Seems the FAPL are doing their best to make it as difficult as possible. Fewer and fewer Saturday 3pms televised and if they are, native commentary only.

I cant understand why we in Ireland cant buy a season ticket to all Arsenal matches on tv. I'd happily (stupidly) pay a very substantial sum of money for this, and it wouldnt stop me making the normal 2 or 3 trips over.

Well, i do know, Sky.

Radharc na Sleibhte · 11-03-2012 5:37pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

as for gotze...'

I really cant see us signing Götze.
Would be great, but realistically speaking, I think there's two chances.....

batistuta9 · 11-03-2012 7:04pm

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

The reason I asked was because of the notice up on the lof site since yesterday.
Seems the FAPL are doing their best to make it as difficult as possible. Fewer and fewer Saturday 3pms televised and if they are, native commentary only.

I cant understand why we in Ireland cant buy a season ticket to all Arsenal matches on tv. I'd happily (stupidly) pay a very substantial sum of money for this, and it wouldnt stop me making the normal 2 or 3 trips over.

Well, i do know, Sky.

The PL are saying it's to get more people to go to games, that's why they don't sell the rights to UK broadcasters for them games. but sky couldn't be happy that the foreign satellites are allowed in the UK and probably have something to do with it

I don't think as arsenal fan's we'd be too put out by this, if they're playing at 3 on a sat. that'd be one of the matches shown in other countries & therefore on them sites, same for any fan of the top 6 sides.
It's only the 3pm sat. games that this effects so there aren't going to be many - if any - w'kends in the season where all the big teams are playing at that time and they'll have to make a choice on which games to show

This only applies to europe as well & FSS has fox soccer on it & as well as various setanta's and other channels from english speaking countries so i'd say the sites will get around it some way, FSS look better setup than LOF to handle this + they say there adding more channels and will show at least 3 games at 3pm on a sat.
even if you could see the game the commentary wouldn't be the most important as you'd probably get english commentary from a radio station or somewhere online

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

I really cant see us signing Götze.
Would be great, but realistically speaking, I think there's two chances.....

are they slim & none

Radharc na Sleibhte · 11-03-2012 7:28pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

I don't think as arsenal fan's we'd be too put out by this, if they're playing at 3 on a sat. that'd be one of the matches shown in other countries & therefore on them sites

are they slim & none

Thats a good point.
We've only 3 Saturday 3pms left as far as i can see.
Nothing to worry about so really.
Probably more the likes of aston villa v fulham that'll get the axe.

They are slim and none.
Im not overly pessimistic.
I just think, looking at it logically, the stories are bullshiit.
Would we get him for that price? Would we spend that money? Would he pick us over all the others in for him? Three no's if im honest with myself.

gnfnrhead · 11-03-2012 7:44pm

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

Hahahaha reading this RVP story in tears of laughter. Not a hope!!

Isn't the legally impossible for him to sign a (pre-) contract with City until he has less than 9 months left on his current contract?

I could see through it if we was actually INTO his last year of his contract, but he's contracted to Summer 2013...isn't is usually around the turn of NEXT year that clubs could offer him a pre-contract?!

Is it not six months?

Lahinchians · 11-03-2012 9:05pm

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

Would we get him for that price? Would we spend that money? Would he pick us over all the others in for him? Three no's if im honest with myself.

Call me deluded if you want but:

I think we can get him at that price, look at how much Özil went for and he was just off the back of a very good world cup display too.

While im not too sure if we'd spent that kind of cash on a player yet. I do think it is within the realms of possibility.

Why would he not want to come to us, Arsenal has the worldwide rep of playing young player wether they're ready or not. Granted Gotze is alread a class act, but is he ready to walk into the first team at real, barca, etc...? IMO he's not there yet. Annoying as it is to say I'd imagine he would see us as a fantastic place to play high level footie and gain experience for a few years before moving on to barca or madrid.

That would be the way i see things anyway.

Radharc na Sleibhte · 11-03-2012 9:58pm

Lahinchians wrote: »

Call me deluded if you want but:

I think we can get him at that price, look at how much Özil went for and he was just off the back of a very good world cup display too.

While im not too sure if we'd spent that kind of cash on a player yet. I do think it is within the realms of possibility.

Why would he not want to come to us, Arsenal has the worldwide rep of playing young player wether they're ready or not. Granted Gotze is alread a class act, but is he ready to walk into the first team at real, barca, etc...? IMO he's not there yet. Annoying as it is to say I'd imagine he would see us as a fantastic place to play high level footie and gain experience for a few years before moving on to barca or madrid.

That would be the way i see things anyway.

Maybe he would come to us.
But he is already in a great young team.

I just cant see us spending that money even if it were enough to prize him away.

I will happily eat my words in 3-4 months. Nyom nyom nyom :pac:

Reekwind · 11-03-2012 10:41pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Is it not six months?

I don't think that applies to players moving within England

Galvasean · 11-03-2012 11:20pm

So City lose two in a row? That'll learn 'em to talk about van Persie! :P

KeithAFC · 11-03-2012 11:36pm

They are pathetic to be honest. Spent all that money too. They are in a title race and all they can do is talk about Van Persie. What eejits.

meriwether · 12-03-2012 1:10am

KeithAFC wrote: »

They are pathetic to be honest. Spent all that money too. They are in a title race and all they can do is talk about Van Persie. What eejits.

Poor Samir Nasri.

What a shame.

ImpossibleDuck · 12-03-2012 1:33am

batistuta9 wrote: »

you usually seem level headed enough so i can't understand how you or anyone else doesn't think that this could possibly happen, i also think he'll stay at the club or even be made stay but wouldn't be 100% surprised if he left either but would be a bit shocked if it was city

this sort of talk will only start picking up from now on too unless he signs. as for the pre-contract, like yourself, i've only really heard of them being signed in the january before the contract is up but this is on wiki & there's been talk of neymar signing for real/barca on a pre-contract but don't know how long he's got on his

In all honesty, it might be just fear. Whatever about Cesc and Nasri and Adebayor and Touré and Clichy...if RVP left I'd be a broken fan :pac:

I have to hold onto hope, I suppose? FWIW, I know this could happen. I'm not that naïve. As for the post you quoted..whatever about him signing in future, I KNOW he hasn't signed already, nor will he anytime soon. I just found it funny that it was reported as a done deal.

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Is it not six months?

Could well be, but it's certainly not 15 anyway!

Galvasean · 12-03-2012 1:33am

Feels so weird wanting United to win the league.

meriwether · 12-03-2012 1:41am

Galvasean wrote: »

Feels so weird wanting United to win the league.

I don't.

Not did I ever want them to win it ahead of Chelsea either.

If they Taliban were challenging United for the title, I'd support the greatest team that Kabul has ever seen.

Mickeroo · 12-03-2012 1:54am

meriwether wrote: »

I don't.

Not did I ever want them to win it ahead of Chelsea either.

If they Taliban were challenging United for the title, I'd support the greatest team that Kabul has ever seen.

Yea, gotta be honest would rather see city win it.

gnfnrhead · 12-03-2012 2:02am

You can't possibly want United to win, surely? City haven't really done anything to us except overpay for a few players. United are United. The only time I don't want them getting hammered is when they face spurs. In that case I want red cards and injuries galore for both sides! Whoever I want to win depends on where we are.

I have nothing really against City, but, I'm sure that will quickly change if they maintain their position as title contenders for the next few seasons at least. But now, I'd much rather City.

gnfnrhead · 12-03-2012 2:02am

...

Radharc na Sleibhte · 12-03-2012 3:19am

As much as i dislike United, I hate City and everything about them and everything they represent.

kryogen · 12-03-2012 4:32am

Mickeroo wrote: »

Arsenal is the only club in the league that is run in a sustainable manner. City,Chelsea even tottenham, liverpool and united, they can't go on indefinitley the way they are. .

This seems a good place to point out, united are actually one of the best, and most profitably run football clubs in the world.

amacachi · 12-03-2012 5:20am

meriwether wrote: »

Poor Samir Nasri.

**** him. Just out of interest has he done anything at City or shall I add him to my list of players who are ****ing useless once they leave Arsenal? How's Clichy getting on?

Galvasean wrote: »

Feels so weird wanting United to win the league.

Same here. Still, mostly know Liverpool fans so cheering for United winds them up which softens the blow. Also if City can be denied the title this season and next then FFP comes in they'll never do it. Would be a nice historical lesson, see them liquidised.

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