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Thomas The Tank Engine is 'classist, sexist and racist'

  • 22-07-2014 4:41pm
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    Thomas the Tank Engine had to shut the hell up to save children everywhere
    Classism, sexism, anti-environmentalism bordering on racism: any parent who discovered these hidden lessons will appreciate that the show's star just quit

    There are many terrible children's programs through which parents must suffer during their child's young life. For every Sesame Street, there is an annoying Caillou or an acid-trippy Yo Gabba Gabba. But Thomas and Friends is – or was – the one show with enough subversive messages to make me turn it off for good.

    My son, now three-and-a-half years old, thankfully never never went through a manic train fascination like so many other children. But once in a while, he'd get a bug in his brain to watch Thomas, and every time I sat and watched with him, I winced and groaned almost as much as Percy.

    When I heard the news this week, that the voice actor behind Thomas's incessant whinging quit the series because he was underpaid, I remembered all of the reasons that I cut my kid off from the show in the first place.

    Thomas and those friends are trains that toil away endlessly on the Isle of Sodor – which seems to be forever caught in British colonial times – and, on its surface, the show seems to impart good moral lessons about hard work and friendship. But if you look through the steam rising up from the coal-powered train stacks, you realize that the pretty puffs of smoke are concealing some pretty twisted, anachronistic messages.

    For one, these trains perform tasks dictated by their imperious, little white boss, Sir Topham Hatt (also known as The Fat Controller), whose attire of a top hat, tuxedo and big round belly is just a little too obvious. Basically, he's the Monopoly dictator of their funky little island. Hatt orders the trains to do everything from hauling freight to carrying passengers to running whatever random errand he wants done, whenever he wants it done – regardless of their pre-existing schedules.

    Inevitably, the trains get in a fight with or pick on one another (or generally mess up whatever job they are supposed to be doing) until Hatt has to scold one of them about being a "really useful engine", because their sole utility in life is their ability to satisfy his whims. Yeah, because I want to teach my kid to admire a controlling autocrat.

    But there was one particular episode that caused me to put the brakes on Thomas for good. It revolved around James, a red engine who is described in the opening credits as "vain but lots of fun." (Wait, it's OK to be vain if you can show others a good time occasionally? Great – that's going in my Parenting 101 book.) In the episode "Tickled Pink", poor vain James, is ordered by Topham Hat to get a new coat of paint. But while James has only had an undercoat of pink slathered on, Topham Hatt interrupts and demands that James go pick up Hatt's granddaughter and deliver her and her friends to a birthday party right now.


    James is mortified that he has to travel while pink and proceeds to hide from all the other trains along the way. When he's caught, the other trains – including Thomas – viciously laugh and mock him.

    "What are you doing James? You're a big pink steamie," says Diesel, the bad-boy engine. (For the record, all the "villains" on Thomas and Friends are the dirty diesel engines. I'd like to think there was a good environmental message in there, but when the good engines pump out white smoke and the bad engines pump out black smoke – and they are all pumping out smoke – it's not hard to make the leap into the race territory.)

    But once James gets back on the rails and picks up Granddaughter Hatt and her friends, all seemingly ends well because the girls love pink.

    Well guess what? It's not OK. You think a little boy watching Thomas is going to file away the lesson that pink is OK for boys? No, what kids remember is that James was laughed at, cruelly, over and over again, because he looked different and was clad in a "girly" pink color.

    And that's not even to get started on the female trains. Well, actually it's hard to get started on them, because they barely exist. Take a quick scan of the more than 100 trains and characters in the Thomas universe – it spans multiple books, toys and continents in addition to a TV show – and you can quickly count on two hands the number of lady trains that populate is Isle of Sodor. Emily – the only lady train to get name checked in the opening credits and the only one who regularly hangs out with the boy trains – is said to "know her stuff." That's the sole description of her personality. What does that even mean?

    Last year, the British Labour shadow Transportation Secretary even called out Thomas for its lack of females, saying that the franchise setting a bad example for girl wannabe train engineers everywhere.

    At first blush, Thomas and his friends seem rather placid and mild. And there are certainly a lot worse shows in terms of in-your-face violence, sexism, racism and classism. But looks can be deceiving: the constant bent of messages about friendship, work, class, gender and race sends my kid the absolute wrong message.

    And really, that theme song makes me scream. Thomas can just go bust my buffers.


    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/22/thomas-the-tank-engine-children-parents?CMP=twt_gu


    Fairly sure they've ruined thomas now. Its all CGI and what not.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    Wow,

    I suppose you could apply this warped theory to absolutely anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,937 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I know the Guardian is very leftist but that is the most ridiculous article ever even by their standards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I know the Guardian is very leftist but that is the most ridiculous article ever even by their standards.

    They're the left version of the daily mail, they publish this kinda thing because it gets them clicks and ad revenue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,102 ✭✭✭mathie


    Classist? Maybe.
    Racist? Perhaps.

    But I am in now way sexually attracted to steam engines no matter what you find under c:\downloads\incomplete


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Thomas The Tank Engine is classy, sexy and racy more like.


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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have The Onion and The Guardian traded names?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    The Guardian has really turned into a gross parody of itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    You are all big pink steamies.

    Especially YOU!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,559 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Chuggington FTW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    What's wrong with being sexy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    It's a children's cartoon why is it being analysed like bloody Tolstoy?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jesus Christ is anything sacred


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    Links234 wrote: »
    They're the left version of the daily mail, they publish this kinda thing because it gets them clicks and ad revenue.

    Exactly one person's "wow that's feckin stupid" is another's edgy. Either way we're all talking about the Gardian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Another clickbait article.

    If only newspapers could be fined for posting ****e


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    All this talk of being attracted to trains has motivated me to go watch some porn. Brb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    He doesn't like the theme tune? Sacrelige!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭NewCorkLad


    Can anyone tell me where I could purchase a subscription to this paper thats pucken hilarious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭uch


    Wouldn't you love to get a hold of the príck that wrote that and batter them, feckin PC brigade

    21/25



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    uch wrote: »
    Wouldn't you love to get a hold of the príck that wrote that and batter them, feckin PC brigade

    How dare you suggest such a classist, sexist and racist thing!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Dolbert wrote: »
    He doesn't like the theme tune? Sacrelige!


    Tis a she.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    I always knew there was something dodgy about TTTE!

    Now if we can just find something wrong with Peppa Pig!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Jaysus, thought I was reading a joke article!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    It's a cartoon, must've been a slow news day for the Guardian, tbh I wouldn't wipe my right wing, capitalist arse with the Guardian rag:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Article is by Tracy Van Slyke, who takes offence at anything that she hasn't personally written herself, as this article shows.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Did not read let me guess, person would also like gender neutral toys bah bah rainbow sheep. Jesus. People do actually realise their is a difference between boys and girls ? It's not gender conditioning each prefers generally different stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    I think the show and its continued use of the Fat Controller is a brilliant turning on its head of the modern view of obesity as a condition of the economically deprived instead he is shown to have become literally the ultimate controller , not only that has the fact that he is clearly subtle mocking the traditional upper classes with his over the top wardrobe choices.
    (Dear Guardian I can write drivel for only 50 cent a word )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    It seems The Guardian...

    (•_•)
    ( •_•)>⌐■-■
    (⌐■-■)


    ...has gone off the rails.


    YYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Birneybau wrote: »
    You are all big pink steamies.

    Especially YOU!

    Any you happen to be a Cleveland steamer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Rough Sleeper


    Despite the author's bio:
    Tracy Van Slyke is a fellow at the The Opportunity Agenda, where she researches and writes about the intersection of social justice and pop culture.

    I still think this a piece of self-deprecating satire that's main purpose is to whip up a ****storm. The whole black smoke/white smoke thing is just a bit of a stretch, more like a made-up story by Richard Littlejohn or a BNP member while they're ranting about "PC gone mad" than something anyone would earnestly believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Article is by Tracy Van Slyke, who takes offence at anything that she hasn't personally written herself, as this article shows.

    The bad guy is a "person of colour". Like bright red.


  • Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭creolebelle


    This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Children's shows often contain hidden messages but this is ridiculous.
    When I have children I don't think I will let them watch tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    Sorry, this has to be a parody.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    Wasn't there an article on this last year? Are we going to be treated it to every once in a while or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    She'll get three months worth out of Noddy and Big ears.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    She'll get three months worth out of Noddy and Big ears.

    Haha, wasn't there a town of gollywogs in it originally?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    That woman needs to get a job or even just leave the house for awhile.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    All this talk of "isms", are we not living in one of the greatest era of human history, where freedom is a concept that rules over most of the planet (to do anything, enjoy anything) and then we have this **** to complain about because we're so bored, and distant from the pressures of survival?

    As Louis C.K said it as eloquently as anybody ever did "Everything is amazing and nobody is happy"

    I want to live in a world where stories about talking steam trains are fun trivial thing, how much other **** has happened on trains in the past?

    Unless the cartoon is depicting holocaust victims on a train, this is just inane, incidental stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    gandalf wrote: »
    I always knew there was something dodgy about TTTE!

    Now if we can just find something wrong with Peppa Pig!!!!
    Apparently Peppa is deemed a bit too bossy and cheeky to her parents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭whitelight


    Its a cartoon...take a chill pill.you have way to much time on your hands!! What will u do when the kid learns to read or use computers.better stock up on the cotton wool.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    I remember the time Thomas bumped into Daisy from behind and she spread oil all over the tracks and got very wet. I was trying hard to stifle the giggles reading it. (To my 3 year old at the time I might add)

    That must be what they meant, subliminal messages or something. My young lad was obsessed by it, could name all the engines at the age of 3, must be 50/60 of them, he must keep his classist, sexist and racist views well hidden then.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Links234 wrote: »
    They're the left version of the daily mail, they publish this kinda thing because it gets them clicks and ad revenue.

    To be fair to the guardian, they allow anyone to publish in the comment section. They've had all types of right wing nutjobs in there too. During the Crimea crises they had the russian foreign minister write a piece.

    Whereas the daily mail generally doesn't have anyone left at all.

    You're still right about it being click bait though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    K-9 wrote: »
    I remember the time Thomas bumped into Daisy from behind and she spread oil all over the tracks and got very wet. I was trying hard to stifle the giggles reading it. (To my 3 year old at the time I might add)

    That must be what they meant, subliminal messages or something. My young lad was obsessed by it, could name all the engines at the age of 3, must be 50/60 of them, he must keep his classist, sexist and racist views well hidden then.

    I had a Thomas train set. To be fair, I got my first train set before I'd even heard of thomas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Magaggie wrote: »
    Apparently Peppa is deemed a bit too bossy and cheeky to her parents.

    And Pig is a bold word, as well as offensive to Muslims and Jews, But then "Peppa the Halal Chicken" doesn't have the same ring to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,543 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    For someone like her to be offended by a pink steam engine in a kids TV show that is meant to be red, for the love of Jaysus please cop onto yourself and try and get a life as we all do ourselves in our own miserable lives.

    I actually do like Thomas as I did as a kid. And tbf I see no else complaining about it will you. I would beg to differ on that one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    If the Guardian is to ape the Daily Mail in firing out cheap articles designed to attract clicks then they'll need to put more ads and referral links on their site. Hell, even the journal.ie does a better job. Papers like the Telegraph and Irish Times are dying because they still hold on to this old-fashioned concept of journalistic integrity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,517 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    They like Bagpuss though, because it's about Marxism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    kowloon wrote: »
    They like Bagpuss though, because it's about Marxism.

    It is??


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The Rev. W Awdry stories are fine. Because the engines behave properly. The later ones by others are terrible, scant regard to safe railway procedure :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    From the thread title alone I just knew this would be a Guardian article.


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