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Good luck to the Ireland team at the IAU 24 Hour World Championships!

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  • #32
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    aquinn wrote: »
    How did you get on then? Some challenge, well done.

    I came 60th overall, 2nd Austrian / 1st Irishman, depending how you classify me. :)

    Considering that I spent most of Thursday afternoon wrapped around a toilet and was close to tears during a hospital visit because I thought that almost 2 years of preparations had just gone straight out of the window just like that, I'm more than happy.

    On the Irish team, both Eoin and John had serious stomach troubles, hence their rather modest totals. Steady Eddie kept going until the end but didn't have his best race either. All 3 of them have PBs better than mine and just because I finished ahead of them on this occasion won't make me think that I'm Ireland's best (male) 24 hours runner all of a sudden.

    Brian and Don had a few troubles as well. Brian spent some time in the medical tent and Don had to take a couple of hours rest during the night. Both of them finished very strongly but obviously had not spent the entire 24 hours on their feet.


  • #33
    ultraman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    I came 60th overall, 2nd Austrian / 1st Irishman, depending how you classify me. .
    5th placed german...:)


  • #34
    Enduro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    *cough* *cough* :D

    Make your mind up, Jonah :)


  • #35
    Enduro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Enduro


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    On the Irish team, both Eoin and John had serious stomach troubles, hence their rather modest totals. Steady Eddie kept going until the end but didn't have his best race either.

    Actually I had no stomach problems at all. I had an injury flare up after about 3 hours or so, which I managed to control very well for the following 6 hours or so, but then I starterd getting a second issue, no doubt caused by compensating for the first injury. That required a lot of intervention from the fantastic Irish support crew, who got me back out on the course again. Unfortunately I wasn't able to recover enough to properly get running again so I eventually had to come back in to the support crew.


  • #36
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    I came 60th overall, 2nd Austrian / 1st Irishman, depending how you classify me. :)

    Considering that I spent most of Thursday afternoon wrapped around a toilet and was close to tears during a hospital visit because I thought that almost 2 years of preparations had just gone straight out of the window just like that, I'm more than happy.

    On the Irish team, both Eoin and John had serious stomach troubles, hence their rather modest totals. Steady Eddie kept going until the end but didn't have his best race either. All 3 of them have PBs better than mine and just because I finished ahead of them on this occasion won't make me think that I'm Ireland's best (male) 24 hours runner all of a sudden.

    Brian and Don had a few troubles as well. Brian spent some time in the medical tent and Don had to take a couple of hours rest during the night. Both of them finished very strongly but obviously had not spent the entire 24 hours on their feet.


    Sounds like ye all had a tough time out there. Congrats to ye all on doing this and doing so well.


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  • #37
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Enduro wrote: »
    Actually I had no stomach problems at all. I had an injury flare up after about 3 hours or so, which I managed to control very well for the following 6 hours or so, but then I starterd getting a second issue, no doubt caused by compensating for the first injury. That required a lot of intervention from the fantastic Irish support crew, who got me back out on the course again. Unfortunately I wasn't able to recover enough to properly get running again so I eventually had to come back in to the support crew.

    Apologies Enduro - for some reason I had it in my head that you had gotten similar stomach issues to myself but one day later, which would have buggered anyone's race.
    ultraman1 wrote: »
    5th placed german...:)

    Ok, so. I was ...

    60th in the World
    47th European
    5th German
    2nd Austrian
    1st Irish

    I'm highly international, me! :)


  • #38
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    60th in the World
    47th European
    5th German
    2nd Austrian
    1st Irish

    I'm highly international, me! :)

    Isn't Ruthann Irish? *cough cough* ;)

    Well done Thomas, sounds like a very tough race with the heat and you came much closer to your PB than most.

    Would you say you prefer the 2k loops or the 400m track loops?


  • #39
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Isn't Ruthann Irish? *cough cough* ;)

    Well done Thomas, sounds like a very tough race with the heat and you came much closer to your PB than most.

    Would you say you prefer the 2k loops or the 400m track loops?

    Ruthann is as Irish as they come but that list is males only. Obviously! ;)

    That 2k loop was much tougher than a 400m track; new world champion Florian Reus blames the ramp into the stadium we had to run up and down each time for the generally modest totals. Even something as small as 6 meters elevation does add up after a while.

    Even without that ramp I think I'm mentally more suited to a 400m track. I find running on a small loop almost hypnotising - I just go into the zone and stay there. On Saturday I never really managed to tune out completely and there was much more mental effort involved.


  • #40
    Djoucer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    How do you mentally deal with races such as these?

    Do you employ any sort of psychological tricks?

    I would've thought something like a small ramp would be good, as it breaks the monotony. But seems to have opposite effect, it takes you out of the zone.

    Great result.


  • #41
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Djoucer wrote: »
    How do you mentally deal with races such as these?

    The mental side is the crucial bit. For some reason I seem to be able to handle it better than most, which is why I am a much better 24 hrs runners than for any other distance. I could not possibly hope to make an international team for any other race, even for 100k I am still miles off the pace but for 24 hrs I qualified comfortably with plenty to spare.
    Djoucer wrote:
    Do you employ any sort of psychological tricks?

    Me? Not really, at least not consciously. I try to tune out and get into "the zone" but found that really hard on Saturday. One thing is, you cannot focus on the entire race so you just try to complete the present lap and not think ahead. Once that is done you focus entirely on the next single lap. So, maybe that is a psychological trick, alright.

    Last year I read a book about self hypnosis that had been recommended by an (exceptionally good) ultra runner, but I could not get into that at all. That's not me. Basically, I just run until they tell me to stop.
    Djoucer wrote:
    I would've thought something like a small ramp would be good, as it breaks the monotony. But seems to have opposite effect, it takes you out of the zone.

    Before the race I thought running up and down the ramp might actually help as it uses the legs muscles slightly differently, but eventually had to conclude that this was not the case.
    Djoucer wrote:
    Great result.

    Thanks. :)


    By the way, did anyone actually mention yet that we had two fires in the stadium (with smoke and smell and gloriously big fire engines and all) during the night and that the stadium itself was pitch dark for about 45 minutes (related to the first fire) and only lit by a couple of dozen people who happened to bring along headlamps?


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  • #42
    chickey2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭chickey2


    Well done to everyone involved. I'm in total awe of anyone who can run for 24 hours. I would struggle to say awake for that long! i just read that report that Ruthanne Sheehan wrote and was fascinated.
    The mental side is the crucial bit. For some reason I seem to be able to handle it better than most, which is why I am a much better 24 hrs runners than for any other distance. I could not possibly hope to make an international team for any other race, even for 100k I am still miles off the pace but for 24 hrs I qualified comfortably with plenty to spare.
    TFBubendorfer, i think this is what i find so interesting, how important the mental aspect of this kind of race is. Would it be right to say men and women can compete more equally? Also, it seems older people can outdo the youngsters in this kind of race.

    Enduro, I think it was you who mentioned you ran the Wicklow way and ate only a jaffa cake! What, if anything do you eat during a 24 hour?


  • #43
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    If you happen to have a lot of spare time on your hands and are desperate to fill it with something, you can have a look at my race report from Turin: http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_16.html

    There are also entries dealing with the days before http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_15.html

    and after the race http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin.html

    for the ones looking for a cure to insomnia.


  • #44
    aquinn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    If you happen to have a lot of spare time on your hands and are desperate to fill it with something, you can have a look at my race report from Turin: http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_16.html

    There are also entries dealing with the days before http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_15.html

    and after the race http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin.html

    for the ones looking for a cure to insomnia.

    Thanks for posting that up. What a read and OMFG congratulations. That is brilliant. Well done.


  • #45
    George Chinaglia
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭George Chinaglia


    Seconded. Brilliant race report but more importantly phenomenal performance. Huge congratulations


  • #46
    Ososlo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Wow that's some achievement Thomas. Mind boggling...
    Congratulations! A lot of drama too with the illness beforehand and the fire in the stadium!!! Do you think the sickness in the days leading up to it affected your performance a lot on the day or had you recovered fully?

    How is the recovery going since the race? When will you run again?


  • #47
    nop98
    Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    If you happen to have a lot of spare time on your hands and are desperate to fill it with something, you can have a look at my race report from Turin: http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_16.html

    There are also entries dealing with the days before http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_15.html

    and after the race http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin.html

    for the ones looking for a cure to insomnia.

    What a super achievement and great write-up. Unreal !


  • #48
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    chickey2 wrote: »
    TFBubendorfer, i think this is what i find so interesting, how important the mental aspect of this kind of race is. Would it be right to say men and women can compete more equally? Also, it seems older people can outdo the youngsters in this kind of race.

    Basic speed is not important in a 24 hrs, so older runners are often still able to run impressive performances. At the same time, it's not that unusual for a woman to win an ultra outright, and right now there are very few men in Ireland who can challenge Ruthann Sheahan.

    On the other hand, the best runners still tend to be males in their 20s or early 30s. E.g. new world champion Florian Reus is a student. The field might be slightly more even but clearly not completely so.
    Ososlo wrote: »
    Do you think the sickness in the days leading up to it affected your performance a lot on the day or had you recovered fully?

    How is the recovery going since the race? When will you run again?

    I think in the end it had no effect but it sure was a close call. Recovery is quite slow. I've been a bit sick since the race and am only just getting better. The legs are still sore! I'll probably run when the missus throws me out of the house - after the last race that only took 10 days :-)


  • #49
    Dubgal72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Huge congratulations TFBubendorfer, fantastic achievement! Great reports but...I think you have to change your blog title now ;)


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