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Former Waterford Cllr denies corruption charges

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    #32
    Johnny Johnson
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Johnny Johnson


    tipptom wrote: »
    I feel a little sorry for him to as he seemed in a desperate situation and did not have a penny left so he was open to what happened where as a lot of the others seemed to think it was an extra on top of their big salarys and pensions.If he gets more than 3 years it will be a disgrace considering the facts and the sentances handed down to murderers.He was probably the soft target as the develepor will use expensive lawyers to evade the same fate.

    I am sorry but I cannot agree with this. To use your logic nobody would be suitably punished. He took a chance and was caught. Tough titty so some would say.


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    #33
    deisemum
    Registered Users Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭deisemum


    scholar007 wrote: »
    You know how Bobbit came to be in the English language, I wonder will the phrase Forseyed become mainstream as in "he left her for a young wan and the wife did a Forsey on him"????

    Do you mean Bobbit and lob it? ;)


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    #34
    ziedth
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭ziedth


    Freddie got fingered is an amazing choice :)


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    #35
    ComfyKnickers
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭ComfyKnickers


    Wow if he gets the full ten years for what, 80k, half the bankers that fecked this country up to the tune of millions should never see daylight again! And what about all the politicians and property developers who we heard about during the Tribunals, very few of them saw a prison cell. What he did was wrong but this country is so imbalanced when it comes to handing out sentences, it's disgraceful. Be interesting to see what he gets!


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    #36
    Media999
    Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭Media999


    When is this bent scumbag being sentenced?


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    #37
    scholar007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭scholar007


    Media999 wrote: »
    When is this bent scumbag being sentenced?


    I say! thats not exactly cricket old bean. I feel Mr. Forsey shouldn't get anything more than a suspended sentence purely for the amount of entertainment he has provided in the last few weeks. I wish I knew an altruistic developer.


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    #38
    THEIRISHMOB
    Registered Users Posts: 948 ✭✭✭THEIRISHMOB


    Media999 wrote: »
    When is this bent scumbag being sentenced?

    Guys he did not steal a penny from anyone.
    Bankers have blown billions on us, Bertie ahearn was found guilty of taking 200k and not a word. I cannot see how he can be sentenced if the rest of them are and have gotten away with it.
    Waterford is full of criminals walking the streets stabbing,raping,setting fire to houses with families in them. This guy is not a criminal. He just made a foolish mistake and was greedy

    And as for the person that exposed this and following the trial was giving interviews on national papers and parading like a model....Don't you just love rats.


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    #39
    Jarjohn
    Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭Jarjohn


    THEIRISHMOB wrote: »
    Guys he did not steal a penny from anyone.
    Bankers have blown billions on us, Bertie ahearn was found guilty of taking 200k and not a word. I cannot see how he can be sentenced if the rest of them are and have gotten away with it.
    Waterford is full of criminals walking the streets stabbing,raping,setting fire to houses with families in them. This guy is not a criminal. He just made a foolish mistake and was greedy

    And as for the person that exposed this and following the trial was giving interviews on national papers and parading like a model....Don't you just love rats.

    Ok Fred.:pac:


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    #40
    Max Powers
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    I see Cllr. Carey thinks forsey was hard done by, didnt do anything wrong and hopes he doesnt get jail.

    Says it all really about the quality of the local reps out there.


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    #41
    Johnny Johnson
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Johnny Johnson


    THEIRISHMOB wrote: »
    And as for the person that exposed this and following the trial was giving interviews on national papers and parading like a model....Don't you just love rats.

    Oh yes. Damn that person who exposed this bribe taking official. For someone who likes to go on about banking officials and so on you are being a wee bit of a hypocrite.

    I now choose to ignore rants like yours about banking and Bertie Ahern in threads like this. They have absolutely nothing to do with corrupt Mr Forsey.


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    #42
    Sully
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    THEIRISHMOB wrote: »
    Guys he did not steal a penny from anyone.
    Bankers have blown billions on us, Bertie ahearn was found guilty of taking 200k and not a word. I cannot see how he can be sentenced if the rest of them are and have gotten away with it.
    Waterford is full of criminals walking the streets stabbing,raping,setting fire to houses with families in them. This guy is not a criminal. He just made a foolish mistake and was greedy

    And as for the person that exposed this and following the trial was giving interviews on national papers and parading like a model....Don't you just love rats.

    I saw the picture and wondered how they got it, but in the text she refused to give an interview but gave a small comment anyway. She was going to make headlines for reporting him after he was found cheating on her.


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    #43
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    ComfyKnickers wrote: »
    Wow if he gets the full ten years for what, 80k, half the bankers that fecked this country up to the tune of millions should never see daylight again! And what about all the politicians and property developers who we heard about during the Tribunals, very few of them saw a prison cell. What he did was wrong but this country is so imbalanced when it comes to handing out sentences, it's disgraceful. Be interesting to see what he gets!

    Sentences which are available to the judge are there for a reason - they are seen as a fair punishment for the crime committed.

    Everyone who was found by the recent tribunals to have committed fraud and accepted corrupt payments should also be tried in similar fashion - but at this stage they probably won't.

    The best outsome is that there will be a line drawn in the sand from this point onwards, abuse your position of power and face the consequences.


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    #44
    ziedth
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭ziedth


    I agree with hardbuck. Yes it's tough on the chap and I feel for him being in the financial strife that he was in. In fact it's fair to say if I was in the same situation I very well may have done the same.

    However, other people committing the same crime with No punishment is not a defence. He broke the law and he obviously lied about it being a loan.

    Hopefully getting tough across the board now will stop things like this happening in the future.


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    #45
    THEIRISHMOB
    Registered Users Posts: 948 ✭✭✭THEIRISHMOB


    Johnny Johnson wrote: »
    Oh yes. Damn that person who exposed this bribe taking official. For someone who likes to go on about banking officials and so on you are being a wee bit of a hypocrite.

    I now choose to ignore rants like yours about banking and Bertie Ahern in threads like this. They have absolutely nothing to do with corrupt Mr Forsey.

    The person was happy for him to take it at the time...!! But then done the dirt. Not correct?

    I have NO time for anyone that rats on people. He took a bribe and he DID NOT rob anyone....jesus. This country is so F***** up. I'd take it.. would you not?


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    #46
    tipptom
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    Johnny Johnson wrote: »
    I am sorry but I cannot agree with this. To use your logic nobody would be suitably punished. He took a chance and was caught. Tough titty so some would say.
    He did take a desperate chance and was caught and i am saying he should get a suitable punishment but people screaming for the full 10 years is hysterical,i personally think 3 years is more than enough considering the sentances handed out to murderers and rapists.I hope his wife feels good when she watches the inevitable tv shots of him being led in handcuffs in to the prison van while explaining to her childern what she has achieved and will she pay back the ill gotten money that she knew she was receiving.


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    #47
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    Would agree that a three year jail term, and another three or so suspended would be appropriate.

    Does anyone know what became of the rezoned land?


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    #48
    Speak Now
    Registered Users Posts: 8,507 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    hardybuck wrote: »
    Does anyone know what became of the rezoned land?

    Don't think it was ever rezoned!


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    #49
    Paddysboys
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭Paddysboys


    [/QUOTE]
    He did take a desperate chance and was caught and i am saying he should get a suitable punishment but people screaming for the full 10 years is hysterical,i personally think 3 years is more than enough considering the sentances handed out to murderers and rapists.I hope his wife feels good when she watches the inevitable tv shots of him being led in handcuffs in to the prison van while explaining to her childern what she has achieved and will she pay back the ill gotten money that she knew she was receiving.[/Quote]


    I agree and bet most us in the same situation would do what ever it would take to provide for our family well I know I would.
    And for the media coverage what a loud of crap. It was like a bitch off between ex wife and new lover I even saw in one paper the his 26 year old lover was warring a coat from the something range in dunnes, do people really care what fashion is going on in our courts?
    Ya give him 3 yrs for leaving the wife
    And 3 yrs for having a 26 yr old lover
    And feck it 4 for taking the money
    And the gf should be bared from dunnes


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    #50
    Sully
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »
    Don't think it was ever rezoned!

    It was, but the government stepped in and repelled it.


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    #51
    scholar007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭scholar007


    And for the media coverage what a loud of crap. It was like a bitch off between ex wife and new lover I even saw in one paper the his 26 year old lover was warring a coat from the something range in dunnes, do people really care what fashion is going on in our courts?
    [/QUOTE]


    In fairness the girlfriend upped her game when she saw how much of an effort the ex wife was making and definitely started to look hotter as the trial wore on - I bet the wife was a looker in her day too. I don't know how many times I read that his "young lover" was a younger version of his wife. Normally when you trade in something to move to a newer version, you would have to put a few bob with it but this guy managed to trade to a younger model and got a few bob into his hand as well.


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    #52
    ComfyKnickers
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭ComfyKnickers


    hardybuck wrote: »
    ComfyKnickers wrote: »
    Wow if he gets the full ten years for what, 80k, half the bankers that fecked this country up to the tune of millions should never see daylight again! And what about all the politicians and property developers who we heard about during the Tribunals, very few of them saw a prison cell. What he did was wrong but this country is so imbalanced when it comes to handing out sentences, it's disgraceful. Be interesting to see what he gets!

    Sentences which are available to the judge are there for a reason - they are seen as a fair punishment for the crime committed.

    Everyone who was found by the recent tribunals to have committed fraud and accepted corrupt payments should also be tried in similar fashion - but at this stage they probably won't.

    The best outsome is that there will be a line drawn in the sand from this point onwards, abuse your position of power and face the consequences.



    That's the point I was making, people commit the same crime, some don't get prosecuted at all, some get put away for years, that shouldn't be the case.


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    #53
    Media999
    Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭Media999


    Show the investors what we do to bent scum. Give him 10 years and get some confidence back in the system.

    People like this have 1000s unemployed to line there own pockets. Absolutely hang the bastard. Imagine the smile on his face when he was handed 60k in cash. Plenty of people with same smile on there faces in this country after taking an envelope. Bent scum.


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    #54
    deisemum
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    Sentencing has been defered to late June due to a death.


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    #55
    scholar007
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    deisemum wrote: »
    Sentencing has been defered to late June due to a death.


    Oh well - If Freddie is going to the slammer, at least he will have a tan!


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    #56
    Johnny Johnson
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Johnny Johnson


    THEIRISHMOB wrote: »
    I have NO time for anyone that rats on people. He took a bribe and he DID NOT rob anyone....jesus. This country is so F***** up. I'd take it.. would you not?

    No time for a "rat" eh but you will defend someone who broke the law.


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    #57
    Jason Todd
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    Did I hear right on the news just now, sentence of 6 years with 2 suspended handed down to Forsey? Judge said something about the sentence being a 'deterrent' to others.


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    #58
    mike65
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    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0627/breaking24.html

    beware your ex!


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    #59
    ziedth
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭ziedth


    If anyone ever sees me on PI saying I have an opportunity to cheat on the wife link to this thread.

    Jesus, I didn't think in a million years he'd serve time. Let alone fairly serious time.


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    #60
    Max Powers
    Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    Didnt read the whole article, he got 6 years with last 2 suspended, great, i hope he serves those 4 and has any public payment entitlements stripped also. (I know, i know, 'stripped' while talking about prisons, no pun intended)

    Now hopefully, they can lock up a few more, Lowry, P Flynn, Ahearne, Sean Fitzpatrick, Mick Wallace, Quinn and his sons, Clallely, O'Donoghue, etc etc and gain some sort of credibility in our legal/political system


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    #61
    Trick of the Tail
    Registered Users Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    Good. Its about time public figures who practise corruption were made to pay. Its actions like those that have the country the way its in.

    This shows that the justice system does work, but only IF/WHEN the cases are taken by the Gardai/DPP. Instead we have other law-breakers in public life against whom no action is taken, inexplicably.

    (q.v. Mick Wallace. Admits to breaking the law but no prosecution looking likely yet).

    In a way I feel a little sorry for Forsey though, he must be wondering why he's in jail and not countless other public figures who had their hand in the cookie jar.

    A.


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