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worries over the garda fleet (again)

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    It's a shame AGS aren't equipped with a decent standard model car for certain uses. Almost every other police force does it.

    Surely anyone with half a brain can see the advantages of standardisation if the fleet and the savings that can be made by doing this. It could be renewed every 10 years and bulk buying discounts negotiated up front including parts and maintenance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    ToxicPaddy wrote: »
    It's a shame AGS aren't equipped with a decent standard model car for certain uses. Almost every other police force does it.

    Surely anyone with half a brain can see the advantages of standardisation if the fleet and the savings that can be made by doing this. It could be renewed every 10 years and bulk buying discounts negotiated up front including parts and maintenance.

    You'd think at first it was down to brown envelopes what was bought for them to use - but then remember you must never put down to "malice" what can be explained by stupidity

    .........Better again, there should be something set up with some manufacturer to have purpose built patrol cars based on a saloon, ie: a Mondeo with proper suspension, wheels, tyres, gearbox, power and without all the useless extras, and preferably with a screen between the front and back seats. That's dreaming though...

    € 23,000 ish :

    Ultra-high-strength steel added to both A-pillars for significant improvements in roof crush safety
    Front hip room increased to 57.5” from 56.7” (for better comfort and support while wearing a utility belt)
    Retuned, thicker front struts (32 mm from 30 mm) and front stabilizer bar (26 mm from 24 mm) for improved handling
    Police-calibrated StabiliTrak with Performance Mode
    Heavy-duty power 4-wheel disc antilock brake system
    Heavy-duty police suspension
    Transmission and power-steering coolers
    Heavy-duty 18” steel wheels with bolt-on center caps
    6.0L V8 with 355 hp and 384 lb-ft of torque, Active Fuel Management, FlexFuel3 capability, and engine oil cooler
    Remote Vehicle Starter System with Remote Keyless Entry



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    http://www.gmfleet.com/police/chevy-caprice-ppv-patrol-car.html



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Is the fact that we are a country that uses right hand drive vehicles holding us back from getting decent motors at a good price?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    flazio wrote: »
    Is the fact that we are a country that uses right hand drive vehicles holding us back from getting decent motors at a good price?

    You can get the sorta yokes above in RHD - Holden do them afaik


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    gctest50 wrote: »
    You can get the sorta yokes above in RHD - Holden do them afaik
    But Holden are based in Australia, importing from there won't be cheap.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37,295 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Have the gubbernment gotten around to legislation that allows the Gardai to use seized cars as police vehicles?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Capri wrote: »

    Anyone notice the comment of the average police vehicle doing 15,000 a year? Has to be a typo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    TheNog wrote: »
    Anyone notice the comment of the average police vehicle doing 15,000 a year? Has to be a typo.

    Would an average of 300 a day sound right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Zambia wrote: »
    Would an average of 300 a day sound right?

    Would be about right.

    Taking into account a main district hq car would do about 120,000k a year and sub station cars which are less travelled but would still do 25-30 k annually. Average mileage is hell of a lot more than the 15k in the article


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,788 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Question for people in the know do the Gardai have people who look after the likes of fleet maintenance SLA etc,Along with purchasing skills/experience and to question maintenance/ repair bills would the force not be better choosing one manufacturer for the fleet.(Easy for parts etc plus neg on prices)
    And if need be another company to supply specialist units with more high power/spec cars ,If you look at some of the airlines and road transport companies they all use just the one manufacturer and the reason being easy access to parts and not having the hassle of dealing with different manufacturers.

    Of course you could make sure you buy from a company that can SUPPLY the high spec/high power cars also.

    If you had sensible thinking - you could say okay - lets buy 100 Nissan Quasquis (for example) for normal garda work.

    And 40 Audis for traffic corps (again as an example).

    You could do this I would imagine if you had TWO separate tenders with SEPARATE requirements for each.

    Meaning Audi wins the traffic corps tender on the basis of meeting additional requirements laid down for traffic corps (hypothetically) - but Nissan wins the tender for the regular IF the Quasqui meets the requirements for a regular patrol car.

    Parts shouldn't be an issue of all 100 Quasquis are the same - and all 40 Audis are the same.

    Problem here is - we order in 150 Hyundais or 150 Toyotas - and that's it - the fleet requirements must be met from the 150.

    Separate tenders for different parts of the Garda operation is the way forward I think - meaning Traffic corps or other operations - cars are bought SEPARATELY to the regular.

    The problem of course is that the REGULAR NEED decent cars too


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    Be careful with vehicle contracts
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/policeman-arrested-in-awarding-of-contracts-probe-30484414.html

    Detectives investigating the awarding of Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) vehicle contracts have arrested a member of staff.
    A number of arrests have been made as part of the inquiry and the chief constable of West Yorkshire Police was recently suspended pending an investigation by his former force in Northern Ireland.


    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/20/west-yorkshire-police-chief-suspended-corruption-inquiry


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