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whiskey recommendations please?

  • 29-04-2015 10:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭


    hi folks

    I'm a relatively new whiskey drinker but have developed a bit of a taste for it. I dont use mixers, I prefer to taste the spirit clean. so far I've tasted Jameson busmills white label, Paddys and JackDaniels. I slightly preferred bushmills over the jameson. I;ve also been supping a bit of brandy which is quite nice too.

    Anyway. I'm all out at the moment and my birthdays coming up so Im gonna get the missus to pick me up a bottle or maybe even two. I'm looking for recommendations please. the budget is approx 80 or 100quid. I open as to whether I get one excellent bottle and blow the budge on that or two good bottles. Maybe one good bottle of premium stuff and then another decent everyday whiskey..?

    I havent tasted any of the scotch whiskys, and the islay whiskys are interesting. I see that there is an isaly blended in aldi at the moment for approx 30quid or there abouts, is that worth the money? I also read on another forum lots of positive comments about redbreast.

    Anyway, I've appreciate any suggestions ye would have. Also, where's best to get a good selection of spirits. I'm in Limerick. The local offie and local tescos dont seem to be great selection wise.

    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Passenger


    Yellow Spot. An absolutely delicious whiskey. One of the finest Irish whiskey's imho and aged in sherry casks giving it a subtle sweet note but it's much more complex than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,285 ✭✭✭jh79


    For that budget I would pick from the following;

    Jameson Select Reserve Black Barrel approx 50 euro
    Green Spot approx 56 euro
    Teelings Single Malt approx 45 euro
    Woodford Reserve Bourbon Whiskey approx 45 euro
    Greenore Single Grain approx 38 euro

    Tesco often has some of the more expensive whiskeys on special offer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭Loire


    Passenger wrote: »
    Yellow Spot. An absolutely delicious whiskey. One of the finest Irish whiskey's imho and aged in sherry casks giving it a subtle sweet note but it's much more complex than that.

    Really like yellow spot too. Connemara Cask Strength is also very good

    Loire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,166 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    If I was going to blow the budget on one bottle it'd be Tyrconnell Maderia finish.

    Also really like Yellow Spot and Powers John Lane 12 YO.

    At the cheaper end, the Jameson Caskmates is very good if you can get it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Was going to start a new thread but think I'll highjack this one instead as its related.

    I'm no whiskey expert op but I love bushmills 10year old. Sooooo tasty.

    I've a bottle of Middleton in the press that gets the odd sup. very special.

    You mention the Islay whiskeys. I've a bottle of the Aldi one in the press which I'll be buying another bottle of. €25, very peaty but very morish if you take to it.

    Anywho onto the highjacking...

    I just bought a bottle of 10year old whiskey in Lidl by Dundalgan. Hoping it's decent.

    Anyone any experience of it?

    Very little info on it online. Maybe distilled in Cooley? ... Edit saw something else about Cavan maybe?

    It's €30 a bottle which is why it caught my eye vs about €40ish plus for my usual 10year old bushmills.

    ...edit.... it's tasty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,576 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The Dundalgan 10 is wildly disappointing. Much better uses of 30 quid. Bush 10 is 35-37 on offer at peak periods so stock up.

    It's Cooley, likely identical to another of their 10s - Tyrconnell matches in taste profile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    L1011 wrote: »
    The Dundalgan 10 is wildly disappointing. Much better uses of 30 quid. Bush 10 is 35-37 on offer at peak periods so stock up.

    It's Cooley, likely identical to another of their 10s - Tyrconnell matches in taste profile.

    I only had one small glass of it last night in fairness so just going on that.
    I thought it was tasty enough but yeah if I saw bushmills 10 for €35 I'd definitely stock up. I never have though. Lowest I've seen it was €40

    Not that I mind spending the extra tenner, it was more out of curiosity tbh with the dundalgan.

    Personally from the glass I had I found it quite nice, nothing special mind you, in particular vs the bushmills 10 but very drinkable.

    Sweeter than bushmills 10 and not as full on flavour malt wise I found but that's just me.

    Anyway it won't go to waste.

    The Aldi Islay bottle for €25 is great value if you're into your peat imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭jeepers101


    Writer's Tears is another fantastic whiskey that hasn't been mentioned yet. Also Bushmills 16 can be gotten for a good price on occasion. Delicious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    Interesting to see the love for Yellow Spot on the thread. Green Spot or Redbreast and Powers Johns Lane seemed to be all favoured for Irish single pot still whiskeys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    My overall favourite would probably Glenfiddich 15 year old. Its 60 euro in the Celtic Whiskey shop but it can be gotten cheaper in many off licenses. If I had 90 to spend I'd buy a bottle of that and cheaper bottle of something.
    Interesting to see the love for Yellow Spot on the thread.

    Makes a nice change from Laphroaig being the one to be touted all the time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Chloris


    Tomaten 18 is the best whiskey I've ever drank, so warm and woody. Hakushu is my lad's favourite; crisper and slightly sweeter than I like but absolutely delicious nonetheless. Needless to say, both to be consumed at room temperature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    The Aldi Islay bottle for €25 is great value if you're into your peat imo

    Big fan of peat - so lagavulin, laphraoig (love the 10 yo but also have a bottle of quarter cask on order from flaviar) and ardbeg. Have to say the Aldi islay blend is a decent sup.

    As well as the peated malts, I also enjoy Crested Ten - vastly underrated imho. 10 year old Bushmills mentioned earlier as well - lovely. Green spot, the basic expression, is also nice and a very keenly priced single pot still whiskey. And the johns lane 12 year old - nice and smooth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Teeling's single malt is superb.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    Passenger wrote: »
    Yellow Spot. An absolutely delicious whiskey. One of the finest Irish whiskey's imho and aged in sherry casks giving it a subtle sweet note but it's much more complex than that.

    My default response is nearly always to recommend the powers john lane instead I think you're getting almost identical profiles for less money.

    If you want to do 60+ I would tend to go for a Red Breast 12yo and 15yo if you want to spend more but personally I find the 12yo to just edge it and again it's much cheaper than the 15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    syklops wrote: »

    Makes a nice change from Laphroaig being the one to be touted all the time.

    That's only because we're too far away from xmas ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭phobia2011


    my personal favourite is Chivas Regal, something to consider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭G rock


    Sorry to hijack, but reckoned this might be a good time and place to ask this.

    I'll be flying from Toronto in a couple of weeks, and would like to avail of the duty free options. If you were to recommend a widely available duty free "treat", what would the "boardnescenti" recommend??

    I'm a fan of redbreast, but reckon I can get it and similar here, and doubt it's the kind of thing I'd be able to get at a good price in somewhere like Toronto

    Laphroaig? Talisker? Balvennie?

    Something like those??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    G rock wrote: »
    Sorry to hijack, but reckoned this might be a good time and place to ask this.

    I'll be flying from Toronto in a couple of weeks, and would like to avail of the duty free options. If you were to recommend a widely available duty free "treat", what would the "boardnescenti" recommend??

    I'm a fan of redbreast, but reckon I can get it and similar here, and doubt it's the kind of thing I'd be able to get at a good price in somewhere like Toronto

    Laphroaig? Talisker? Balvennie?

    Something like those??

    Why don't you read the thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 634 ✭✭✭ceekay74


    I'm by no means an expert, but Chivas Regal & Glenfiddich are my favourites.

    I enjoy Bushmills too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭G rock


    syklops wrote: »
    Why don't you read the thread.

    Funnily enough, I did.

    My point was that a foreign airport is hardly the place to buy irish favourites like yellow spot, redbreast (which I have already), Bushmills etc, which can be got here fairly readily.

    Hence asking about some recommendations for other "mainstream" or big suppliers likely to be available in airport duty free abroad.


    Apologies that my post didn't make that clear enough for you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    G rock wrote: »
    Funnily enough, I did.

    My point was that a foreign airport is hardly the place to buy irish favourites like yellow spot, redbreast (which I have already), Bushmills etc, which can be got here fairly readily.

    Hence asking about some recommendations for other "mainstream" or big suppliers likely to be available in airport duty free abroad.


    Apologies that my post didn't make that clear enough for you

    One of the most expensive places to buy Irish Whiskey is Ireland. You might be able to pick it up 'handily' enough, but you will pay for it as well. A duty free in North America should allow you to pick up the same stuff at a considerable discount.

    That said, according to online reviews of the duty frees in YYK, the prices aren't that special. You may well do better in a canadian liquor store and put it in your checked luggage.
    My overall favourite would probably be Glenfiddich 15 year old


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭G rock


    Cool, that's actually very informative.

    Didn't realise irish stuff would be more expensive here at home.

    Thanks for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    G rock wrote: »
    Cool, that's actually very informative.

    Didn't realise irish stuff would be more expensive here at home.

    Thanks for that.

    From: http://www.checkout.ie/irish-distillers-ceo-outlook-for-our-industry-is-extremely-concerning/6235
    Irish Distillers Pernod Ricard chief executive Anna Malmhake has said that "penal excise increases" in recent Budgets mean that the outlook for the Irish whiskey industry in Ireland is "extremely concerning".
    "Ireland is one of the most expensive places in the world to buy Irish whiskey with the €17.37 tax take on a bottle of Jameson in Ireland working out more than the total price (€16.61) of that same bottle in New York," she said. "How sustainable is the current international growth of Irish whiskey without a solid local market in which to support home grown brands as well as new market entrants?"
    She said that the high price of alcohol in general (at 178% of the EU average) "has only served to damage the industry and increase costs for responsible drinkers doing little to address misuse."

    A friend of mine was moving from the Czech Republic to Ireland and asked me did I want him to bring anything and I said, a bottle or two of Jameson. He said "Surely you have plenty in Dublin?!?, but at 300 Czech crowns a bottle, or 12 euros, two bottles from there is cheaper than one bottle is here.

    Edit: G-Rock, sorry if I was brusque earlier but I visit and comment on a lot of threads on boards and often people hijack threads having not read the thread, not realising the thread itself contains a lot of the information they need.

    If I was you I would either buy a bottle of something you know you like, or take a punt on something you've not seen before. Taste is a very subjective thing and there is no right answer. Johnny Walker Red was the market leader for a very long time in number of worldwide bottles sold but they changed their formula recently and perhaps coincidentally, the Indian Officers Choice has overtaken them as leader worldwide.

    If you happen to see a Czech whiskey called Hammerhead, and its around the $40 dollar mark, I would suggest you get it, not because of how it tastes but because of its uniqueness. It has an interesting history.


  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭jackrussell007


    great info here , thanks for that folks.

    I think I'm gonna get the aldi islay blend as I havent heard anyone dismiiss it yet. It seems to be decent value and will serve as an intro to scotch for me. Its tempting to go for the 10yo Laphroag or the 12yo glenfiddich which are about 50quid but I want to save the most of the budget for the irish whiskey rather than the scotch.

    on the irish whiskey then I'm still a little undecided. I'm probably most attracted to either the Redbreast 12yo @64quid, the greenspot @56quid or possibly the teelings single grain @44
    the teelings is a nice price. no age statement though which I find a little off putting when spending a bit more for a more premium spirit (in my world anyway) Is that just a newbie attitude though? would you rank the teelings up with the rebreast or green spot?

    thanks for all the suggestions anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,576 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    syklops wrote: »
    One of the most expensive places to buy Irish Whiskey is Ireland.

    Reverse is often true. $36.95 (€32.99) for Black Bush in Oregon, a state with 0% sales tax when its avaible for €25 here. "white" Bush is €24.06 which is vastly more than it sells for here, and so on - http://www.oregonliquorsearch.com/browse_categories.jsp?category=IRISH

    The manufacturers have to semi-subsidise (they're still making a profit) the product in this - and others - market compared to what they can sell it for elsewhere. The major brands that have international appeal sell for very high prices abroad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,576 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I think I'm gonna get the aldi islay blend as I havent heard anyone dismiiss it yet. It seems to be decent value and will serve as an intro to scotch for me.

    Glen Marnoch Islay is fine for its price, but don't expect to compare it to a single malt. Its also often not in stock - it was a Christmas special, hung around for ages then was announced as a regular but my local branch has been out for ages. Comes in a white tube normally.
    Its tempting to go for the 10yo Laphroag or the 12yo glenfiddich which are about 50quid but I want to save the most of the budget for the irish whiskey rather than the scotch.

    In time its worth starting to explore single malt Scotch in time, and there are plenty for less than 50 (albeit not that much less).

    Laphroig and Glenfiddach would be fairly far apart on the taste scale, though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    L1011 wrote: »
    Reverse is often true. $36.95 (€32.99) for Black Bush in Oregon, a state with 0% sales tax when its avaible for €25 here. "white" Bush is €24.06 which is vastly more than it sells for here, and so on - http://www.oregonliquorsearch.com/browse_categories.jsp?category=IRISH

    The manufacturers have to semi-subsidise (they're still making a profit) the product in this - and others - market compared to what they can sell it for elsewhere. The major brands that have international appeal sell for very high prices abroad.

    "The reverse is often true"?!?

    I don't know what to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,576 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    syklops wrote: »
    "The reverse is often true"?!?

    I don't know what to say.

    You've just been given solid numbers showing that Ireland is not always the most expensive place to buy Irish whiskey, contrary to your claims. What else do you want to contribute on the subject?

    Simply put Ireland is nowhere close to the dearest market for Irish whiskey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    L1011 wrote: »
    You've just been given solid numbers showing that Ireland is not always the most expensive place to buy Irish whiskey, contrary to your claims. What else do you want to contribute on the subject?

    Simply put Ireland is nowhere close to the dearest market for Irish whiskey.

    You gave an example from one US state and it put the price at around the same price as here.

    In Europe the only places more expensive than Ireland are Norway, Sweden and Finland.

    You said "The reverse is often true", which would suggest Ireland is one of the cheapest places to buy Irish whiskey which simply is not true. It is cheaper in the following countries:

    France
    Germany
    Austria
    Poland
    Czech Republic
    Italy

    To name but a few.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,576 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    A US state with no sales tax and the price being 20% higher, not "around the same price"

    You don't seem to understand the meaning of "often" along with other logic problems

    I don't see the point in continuing to try explain this to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    L1011 wrote: »
    A US state with no sales tax and the price being 20% higher, not "around the same price"

    You don't seem to understand the meaning of "often" along with other logic problems

    I don't see the point in continuing to try explain this to you.

    Fine with me. We can just agree to disagree.

    By the way Oregon has the second highest alcohol duty in the US. at $22 dollars a gallon versus $2.40 a gallon in Texas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    syklops wrote: »

    How does she justify selling Rarest Vintage Reserve for €400 here and just $250 in the US?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,655 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    It's not exactly an example of a connoisseurs choice, but I find Bushmills Black Bush to be an exceptionally solid whiskey if you take it's price and availability into account. It costs half the price, at least, of many of the whiskies you'll read mention of here, and I don't really know if that means they are really twice as good as Black Bush . It's a good introduction to whiskey that you can sip relaxingly on and without breaking the bank.

    I'd find myself agreeing with lot of the usual suspects that have been mentioned here. Redbreast - Solid. Powers John Lane - Quite nice. Yellow Spot - Complicated; I bought a bottle after reading about it constantly. It's nowhere near a bad whiskey, but I wasn't as blown away as I was expecting to be. I'd be slightly wary of this one. Like I said - Not bad, just perhaps slightly overrated, but you may love it, so who knows. I've also drank a few Jamesons of varying types, which I've always found to be underwhelming, but I live in hope. It's a bit odd because of all the mass market whiskey I think Jameson is the most easily drank.... After Black Bush of course.

    The whiskey that's given me the most non extortionate pleasure overall is probably Bushmills 16 year old. I love that stuff. Smooth and choclately. Nice to sip; very easy to guzzle.

    I think the OP said that the upper echelons of his budget was around the 100 quid mark. If you were willing to be ultra brave you could chance the extra fifty quid for a bottle of Middleton. Owing to the fact that I am not a multi-millionaire, it isn't something I drink a lot of, but whenever I can - Ah yeah.... Like velvet and the finish just lasts and lasts.


    100 is a big psychological and financial barrier to break - I never have - but if you have bigger balls than me and you really want to push the boat out - Middleton.

    I wouldn't have drank as much Scotch, but that something I'm looking to rectify as time goes on. I went all in initially and bought a Laphroaig 10. At first I couldn't get over the sheer peatyness of it. Very distinctive taste. It felt like I was drinking distilled turf. My mind decided it wasn't for me and it went into the press for a while to gather dust. But Laphroaig was the whisky that wouldn't die. Slowly, I found myself having a little bit here and there and it really does grow on you after a while. I actually now most enjoy the aspect of it that I found most repellent in the beginning. That might be some sort of definition of love I guess. I think if you get over the opening shock of -what's this crap? - then you're on your way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,166 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Arghus, do you think Middleton is twice as goodas Yellow Spot?.?

    I find it odd that you talk about overrated whiskies and then recommend Middleton.
    I think it's a very nice whiskey but way, way overpriced and overrated. And don'tget me started on Barry Crockett Legacy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Brockagh wrote: »
    How does she justify selling Rarest Vintage Reserve for €400 here and just $250 in the US?

    Who is charging 400 for it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,576 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Black Bush definitely needs more pushing - until such point as they think about putting the price up!

    Allegedly about 7 year old, the previous version of the Bushmills site claimed it was either 70 or 80% malt.

    In its price range, if you want Irish only Crested Ten comes close. I don't think there's a comparable Scotch for the price and I'd be more of a Scotch drinker at that. Permanent resident of the cupboard here, sometimes with spare(s) if its been on good offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Brockagh wrote: »

    Thats the Celtic Whiskey Shop. One of the msot expensive places in Dublin to buy whiskey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    Lagavulin 16 is a great whisky. not sure what is costs in Ireland these days.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Flood


    Sheep Dip


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  • Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭allroad


    I found Yellow Spot to be a little disappointing. Midleton similarly disappointing, although smoother than Yellow Spot.
    Green Spot, Redbreast and Black Bush are very nice, with Green Spot having the edge, for me.
    Bushmills 10 is one of the nicest whiskies on the market, considering the price.
    Can't abide any of the Scotch stuff, especially the peaty island distilled varieties.
    Each to his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    Flood wrote: »
    Sheep Dip

    sheep dip is quite poisonous, i wouldnt recommend it.

    Dont need to spend too much to get some decent whiskey.

    Greenspot is excellent, a little spicy but also quite smooth, lots of flavour at a little over 50 quid.

    Jameson Black barrel reserve is just beautiful, very very smooth, lots of toffee flavour with a little bit of citrus and a bite at the end. less than 48 quid in dunnes, 33ish quid in duty free.

    Most recently, jameson caskmates (aged in stout barrels) is beautiful, similar to black barrel but the whiskey tastes a bit sharper, and very chocolat'y, with a definite hint of stout at the end. Less than 40 quid, a total bargain. nab it while you can get it.

    Powers john lane signature is good, or even better, the signature 12 year old. both similar but the 12 year is just a little more mellow. john lane is just under 50 quid, 12 year is just over 60 quid.

    And if your able to handle perfection, lagavulin 16 is 80 euros and worth every cent.

    Tons of great whiskeys out there that dont cost a fortune, and youre not afraid to enjoy the bottle due to the cost.

    Regarding middleton bottlings, delicious, but not worth the cost IMO. As mentioned already something like bushmills 16 will hit the spot at a much lower price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Posts deleted. Let's start again. No more mention of poison. Thanks.

    tHB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    Call me a heathen, but I like my whiskey sweet. Some favourites:

    Tullamore Dew Single Malt 10: smooth and surprisingly sweet.

    Connemara: fruity, nicely peated without being overpowering.

    I wasn't a huge fan of Japanese whiskies while actually in Japan, but I recently took a chance on Yamazaki's Distiller's Reserve and was pleasantly surprised. Smooth with a strong cherry nose.

    All well within your budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,655 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Arghus, do you think Middleton is twice as goodas Yellow Spot?.?

    I find it odd that you talk about overrated whiskies and then recommend Middleton.
    I think it's a very nice whiskey but way, way overpriced and overrated. And don'tget me started on Barry Crockett Legacy!

    I didn't say anywhere in my post that I thought Middleton was twice as good as Yellow Spot.

    I did say that I thought Black Bush wasn't, strictly speaking, half good as whiskeys that were twice it's price, but that was mainly to argue in favour of the relative strength of Black Bush. That doesn't mean that I think the comparison of - "this whiskey is twice as good as this other whiskey, because of the price" is valid on every occasion. It can be, sometimes.

    I was a bit harsh on Yellow Spot, I think I said it was "not bad". I really should have said: it's a good whiskey. I would have no problem drinking it 90% of the time; but there are other whiskeys that I'd like to drink all the time. I just find that Yellow Spot is one of the whiskeys that you always read about in threads like this and it's the only one I've bought- out of any in the similar price range- that I found underwhelming, considering what I heard about it previously. And, in my honest, fallible and, totally subjective opinion makes me think it's a bit overrated.

    As for Middleton -Is it overrated? Yeah, probably. It does cost an arm and a leg, but, honestly, I've always really enjoyed drinking it. I think it tastes great. And that's what I've taken away from it every time - That I really like it as a whiskey. Maybe it is overrated, it's definitely overpriced, but I do love it. I most definitely prefer it to Yellow Spot. Is it twice as good? Oh I don't know... maybe..... perhaps. I've enjoyed it more. I'll say that for sure.

    I suppose really we just be thankful that there's such variety out there that we can argue about these matters of personal taste.


  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭jackrussell007


    so from what i can see from the diverse recommendations, whiskey like anything else i suppose, all down to personal preference.

    anyway i went out to O briens offie at the weekend, I was tempted by Teelings single grain and also Redbreast and Greenspot but in the end I went all in and and got a bottle of Yellow Spot.

    So I had a glass or two at the weekend, having another one as i type. My impressions are that I'm liking it, loving it even...but...to my unrefined, whiskey newbie taste buds, I'm not reeeally overawed in any way by it. I'd love to have a glass of bushmills here now as well so i could compare the taste. Having never bought one of these more premium end whiskeys I was unsure of what to expect, I was expecting it to be smoother for some reason. It is smooth, and quite delicious but to be honest it could be a 30euro bottle and i wouldnt know the difference. sacligious maybe... wasted on me...probably. At least now my curiosity has been satisfied. I'll probably buy another cheaper bottle in a couple of weeks, something to be supping away on, the yellowspot will be taken out on occasion. I suppose thats the way to grow a whiskey collection anyway, rather than just skulling each bottle as you buy them.

    having another sup here, it is lovely, undoubtedly, but so was the bushmills. I'm not sure yellow spot is twice or three times nicer . Maybe I'll get the bushmills 10 next seeing as many of ye recommend it..
    anyway. cheers for all the recommendations. I learned a lot reading.
    Sláinte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Passenger


    so from what i can see from the diverse recommendations, whiskey like anything else i suppose, all down to personal preference.

    anyway i went out to O briens offie at the weekend, I was tempted by Teelings single grain and also Redbreast and Greenspot but in the end I went all in and got a bottle of Yellow Spot.

    having another sup here, it is lovely, undoubtedly, but so was the bushmills. I'm not sure yellow spot is twice or three times nicer . Maybe I'll get the bushmills 10 next seeing as many of ye recommend it..
    anyway. cheers for all the recommendations. I learned a lot reading.
    Sláinte

    Glad you went with the Yellow Spot tbh. Maybe you might have to develop a palate to distinguish between and appreciate different flavours of various whiskey's. Everybody is different and the more whiskey's you try the more you'll notice the subtle differences. I've even heard from people that they prefer Green Spot to Yellow Spot even thought it's a cheaper whiskey.

    It's not necessarily about the price attached to a particular whiskey but the flavours that compliment your individual palate. Speaking of Bushmills, I think Black Bush is a fantastic whiskey, equal in many respects to a lot of the more expensive niche whiskey's, and it's usually available for only €25 in Tesco, O'Brien's, etc.

    Irish whiskey's have inflated in price in recent years as well, what with the increase in demand for Irish whiskey around the world so price isn't necessarily a measure of the quality.

    I'm tempted to whet my whistle with a dram of Yellow Spot what with all this whiskey talk. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    You need to stop thinking in twice / 3 times / 4 times nicer.
    It's like anything else once you reach a certain price point your paying the big money for the smallest differences in nuances complexity etc.

    like wine if you put a 100e bottle of wine in front of a 10e bottle of wine drinker the chances are most of that bottle will be lost on them and in the end would probably prefer the 10e bottle. a 100e bottle of wine is not ten times nicer than the 10e bottle it probably has one or two elements better "connected" that to someone who drinks a lot of 100e bottles of wine will enjoy.

    Also like wine so many things will effect the whiskey, wear it's stored the glass your drinking from your mood the temperature the room your in. how you hold the glass are you adding water? ice..etc etc

    If you're going to put a lot of money and time into this you should go to an irish whiskey meet or get someone who can show you how to taste whiskey so you can start to smell and taste the things your paying for.

    or maybe for now don't open the bottle with any sort of expectations, just sit back and enjoy it. maybe buy a few cheap bottles in lidl and aldi and get a taste for it then move on to paddy/jameson etc find a cheaper way to the type of whiskeys you enjoy the most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    limnam wrote: »

    or maybe for now don't open the bottle with any sort of expectations, just sit back and enjoy it. maybe buy a few cheap bottles in lidl and aldi and get a taste for it then move on to paddy/jameson etc find a cheaper way to the type of whiskeys you enjoy the most.

    id disagree with this a little. Im in no way an expert, but even as a novice i can easily taste the difference between standard stuff in an optic in a bar, and a nice bottle like green spot or jameson black barrell.

    Some of the cheaper stuff isnt even particularly nice and could stop someone sticking with it and really getting to know how to enjoy a nice whiskey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    so from what i can see from the diverse recommendations, whiskey like anything else i suppose, all down to personal preference.

    If everyone on the whiskey and beer fora adopted this philosophy there would be way less arguments.


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