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What is the best whiskey (and why) for an Irish Coffee in your opinion?

  • 30-09-2015 9:12pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭


    With the winter coming in what whiskey do you think is best for Irish Coffee?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭GalwayGrrrrrl


    I just use the cheapest one that someone gave us as a gift and keep the nice whiskey to drink on its own. I'm not sure that's the answer you are looking for though!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    I usually have a bottle of Dunphy's put aside for hot toddies. Works good in Irish Coffees too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Lol probably not!


    Ok so imagine that cost is not a factor - assuming you're not throwing in Middleton Rare or anything crazy - which would you recommend then?


    I.e. what whiskey in the €20/30 bottle category?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    I usually have a bottle of Dunphy's put aside for hot toddies. Works good in Irish Coffees too.


    I'd never heard of Dunphy's! Sounds nice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dos29


    I vote Bushmills black.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Has to be Powers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    amdublin wrote: »
    I'd never heard of Dunphy's! Sounds nice

    It is relatively inexpensive & quite mellow compared to other low-end whiskies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Cheapest available. You wouldn't put a €100 bottle of red in a bolognaise, would you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    I certainly wouldn't taint even instant coffee with Johnny Walker Red Label either.

    Like wine used in food, whiskey used in Irish Coffee should at least be drinkable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,588 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Cheapest drinkable bottle you can find. Aldi 19.99 Bushmills White would be that for me - I've not tried their 18.99 Clontarf 1014 though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    endacl wrote: »
    Cheapest available. You wouldn't put a €100 bottle of red in a bolognaise, would you.

    I use white in my bolognaise. Sounds crazy but it works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,588 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    dan1895 wrote: »
    I use white in my bolognaise. Sounds crazy but it works.

    Not uncommon - have seen claims (Darina Allen for one) that it should be white if traditional - I've not been that bothered to check!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Someone suggested tulle more dew to me...thoughts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,798 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    amdublin wrote: »
    Someone suggested tulle more dew to me...thoughts?

    Tullamore Dew would be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,168 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    dan1895 wrote: »
    I use white in my bolognaise. Sounds crazy but it works.

    Not crazy at all. Italians tend to cook with white wine far more than red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    The Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco use Tullamore Dew now, I think. Way back, they might have used Dunphy's, and in between they used their own brand, I think made at Midleton. They sell more Irish coffee than anywhere else in the world.

    In Ireland, a lot of bars use Powers, because it was slightly cheaper. They do say, however, that the spicier flavour of the pure pot still works better in Irish coffee, so Powers seems to fit.

    I would use a pot still blend rather than a single malt or single malt blend, but maybe I couldn't tell the difference. Tullamore has malt and pot still in it, as well as grain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭Saruwatari


    Brockagh wrote: »
    In Ireland, a lot of bars use Powers, because it was slightly cheaper. They do say, however, that the spicier flavour of the pure pot still works better in Irish coffee, so Powers seems to fit.

    This. Whiskey with pot still content has higher viscosity than just malt or grain so you're getting a longer lingering warmth as well a spicy finish from the raw barley, both of which compliment an Irish coffee.
    So ideally Powers, if not that then any other cheap pot still blend (Tullamore D.E.W second-best, maybe Jamesons after but not mad on its fruitiness in a coffee)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    by the time you add water, coffee, cream, sugar,etc does it really matter?

    the cheapest should be fine.

    A more interesting question possibly, is what coffee to use and how to make make it to go well with the whiskey. But we're in the wrong forum :D


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Brockagh wrote: »
    The Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco use Tullamore Dew now, I think. Way back, they might have used Dunphy's, and in between they used their own brand, I think made at Midleton. They sell more Irish coffee than anywhere else in the world.

    I saw the twice (although maybe he's won it more times since) world champion Irish coffee maker in action there. Speed seems to have been the criteria rather than presentation - they were some of the worst looking Irish coffees I've ever seen. Half the cream ended up mixed in with the coffee rather than floating on top. I would have made better ones myself tbh, and I don't even like them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    amdublin wrote: »
    Someone suggested tulle more dew to me...thoughts?
    I have seen tullamore dew being described as the original or preferred whiskey to use. Might have been their own marketing claiming that though.

    this page mentions tullamore dew and the origin of irish coffees
    https://www.exploredrinks.com/whisky-ireland/whisky-ireland-tullamore-dew/
    Desmond was as enterprising as his grandfather and in 1947, Tullamore developed a great Irish whiskey liqueur Irish Mist, based on an early recipe known to Ireland’s ancient chieftains. A blend of Irish whiskey, herbs and honey, the recipe disappeared in the late 17th century, only 
to be rediscovered in a manuscript 250 years later.

    Desmond also capitalised on the Irish coffee craze, and perhaps most importantly recognised the potential of blended whiskies. The smooth, mature and distinctive taste of Tullamore Dew can be attributed to his foresight. It was airport head chef, Joseph Sheridan who actually invented and named the Irish coffee. In the 1940s, Sheridan added Tullamore Dew whiskey to the coffee of passengers on a Pan Am flight who took to the drink rather fondly. When asking whether the cup before them was of Brazilian bean, Sheridan promptly told them it was “Irish coffee”. And, so the popular drink prevails today with Tullamore Dew internationally associated with the best Irish coffee on offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    This is from the back of an old Jameson bottle I have. Must have been around the time subsequent to Irish coffee being invented in the 1940s...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dos29


    Brockagh wrote: »
    This is from the back of an old Jameson bottle I have. Must have been around the time subsequent to Irish coffee being invented in the 1940s...

    "It is what scientists call synergistic action "
    I love it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Lucena


    endacl wrote: »
    Cheapest available. You wouldn't put a €100 bottle of red in a bolognaise, would you.

    Maybe not a €100 bottle, but I once used a good bottle of red as opposed to the cheap stuff I normally used, as it was all I had to hand for making boeuf bourguinon. The end result was notably better!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Kloppstar


    We had a Jack Daniels Honey hot toddy at the weekend, quite nice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,588 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Kloppstar wrote: »
    We had a Jack Daniels Honey hot toddy at the weekend, quite nice

    It's not an Irish Coffee with bourbon in it though


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    L1011 wrote: »
    It's not an Irish Coffee with bourbon in it though

    Well if you want to be really pedantic about it, Jack Daniels isn't bourbon, it's Tennessee whiskey. :p


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Zaph wrote: »
    Well if you want to be really pedantic about it, Jack Daniels isn't bourbon, it's Tennessee whiskey. :p
    I'll have to out-pedant you here and say Jack Daniel's is bourbon -- it meets the definition perfectly. The company doesn't like to call it bourbon for marketing reasons, but it still is one.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    BeerNut wrote: »
    I'll have to out-pedant you here and say Jack Daniel's is bourbon -- it meets the definition perfectly. The company doesn't like to call it bourbon for marketing reasons, but it still is one.

    Well you learn something new every day. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    limnam wrote: »
    by the time you add water, coffee, cream, sugar,etc does it really matter?

    the cheapest should be fine.

    A more interesting question possibly, is what coffee to use and how to make make it to go well with the whiskey. But we're in the wrong forum :D

    I like to use a percolated coffee for Irish coffee's, make quite strong with brown sugar. That helps the cream from sinking or mixing with the coffee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    I have mine with Bushmills Honey. Does that still count as an Irish coffee?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,168 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    AgileMyth wrote: »
    I have mine with Bushmills Honey. Does that still count as an Irish coffee?

    Definitely not!
    Nothing wrong with it if you like it but it isn't Irish coffee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Bushmills for me is more like a scotch in flavour. As for the honey variety I've never had it but if it had a decent whiskey flavour and you didn't put sugar in the coffee it may work.


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