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Rangers FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/2013

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  • #5502
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    I guess that makes sense, but I still don't see why it is unreasonable to want to know the identity of those that will investigate the club.

    For example, it has already shown that this whole 'taxi-rank system' is bollocks.

    On another matter: Rangers get the record for attendances in any 4th tier league worldwide, and Little scores a hattrick :D


  • #5503
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,286 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    I never said it was unreasonable, the way it was done was unreasonable. What really grates though is McCoist playing to the gallery knowing full well that his club agreed the rules 12 months before. If he had an ounce of dignity, he would have told the Rangers support at the time, 'We know the identity of the panel members but cannot disclose the names because the club agreed to these rules. Take it from me, I will ask the SPL and the rest of the clubs if we can change the rules'.

    Not one media outfit (that I saw) pulled him up on it and now he is being investigated by the SPL, he moans again.


  • #5504
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    They probably didn't pull him up for it because they too though it was reasonable to want the identities made public.

    By the way, the fact that now they have given the identities surely shows that it's perfectly ok to do so ?


  • #5505
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,286 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Jelle1880 wrote: »

    On another matter: Rangers get the record for attendances in any 4th tier league worldwide

    ahem

    Fourth-tier game attracts 60,000 spectators

    I believe there were more than 60k at a League 2 play off in England a few years ago


  • #5506
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    SPL total 32,487
    SFL1 total 10,041
    SFL2 total 2736
    SFL3 total 2042

    All 4 divisions 47,296

    Rangers 49,118

    More than the rest of Scottish football put together :)


  • #5507
    Soups123
    Registered Users Posts: 8,977 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    SPL total 32,487
    SFL1 total 10,041
    SFL2 total 2736
    SFL3 total 2042

    All 4 divisions 47,296

    Rangers 49,118

    More than the rest of Scottish football put together :)
    Celtic where away today so course it's going to be like that it's always been that way


  • #5508
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Impressive turnout alright but not sure sure what the big deal is tbh, there was always going to be big crowds at your games and the stat above has been repeated fir years previously!?!

    As I said before the true test will come in Jan/Feb(again this is true for Celtic as well as Rangers)


  • #5509
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Soups123 wrote: »
    Celtic where away today so course it's going to be like that it's always been that way

    Makes no difference the fact is those stats show that our support are going to be hard to beat this season. You must remember this is the third division and going by season ticket sales we could be topping 45,000 at home games


  • #5510
    Soups123
    Registered Users Posts: 8,977 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Soups123 wrote: »
    Celtic where away today so course it's going to be like that it's always been that way

    Makes no difference the fact is those stats show that our support are going to be hard to beat this season. You must remember this is the third division and going by season ticket sales we could be topping 45,000 at home games
    Celtic and Rangers are always hard to beat, course Rangers fans are going to pile on the season tickets there in a novelty situation it would be the same with Celtic if it happened. The count of bums on seat in January/February and next season will test it. But it's a novelty adventure Rangers are on and fans want to be part of it, it's an easy sell


  • #5511
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Soups123 wrote: »
    Celtic and Rangers are always hard to beat, course Rangers fans are going to pile on the season tickets there in a novelty situation it would be the same with Celtic if it happened. The count of bums on seat in January/February and next season will test it. But it's a novelty adventure Rangers are on and fans want to be part of it, it's an easy sell

    LOL No they were not mate up until recently when McCoist said he was backing Green we had only sold a couple of hundred after recent events its going to take a lot to win over us fans


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  • #5512
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    RoryMac wrote: »
    Impressive turnout alright but not sure sure what the big deal is tbh, there was always going to be big crowds at your games and the stat above has been repeated fir years previously!?!

    As I said before the true test will come in Jan/Feb(again this is true for Celtic as well as Rangers)

    As I said in the post above mate going back a couple of weeks it was a different story and the simple fact is if 35,000 have been sold it makes the finances for the year an awful lot better


  • #5513
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Soups123 wrote: »
    Celtic and Rangers are always hard to beat, course Rangers fans are going to pile on the season tickets there in a novelty situation it would be the same with Celtic if it happened. The count of bums on seat in January/February and next season will test it. But it's a novelty adventure Rangers are on and fans want to be part of it, it's an easy sell

    LOL No they were not mate up until recently when McCoist said he was backing Green we had only sold a couple of hundred after recent events its going to take a lot to win over us fans

    Nobody bought season tickets before the licence was granted for obvious reasons but as soon as you got your temp licence the season ticket sales began.

    Not sure if you're serious about it taking a lot to win you over?!?


  • #5514
    Soups123
    Registered Users Posts: 8,977 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Soups123 wrote: »
    Celtic and Rangers are always hard to beat, course Rangers fans are going to pile on the season tickets there in a novelty situation it would be the same with Celtic if it happened. The count of bums on seat in January/February and next season will test it. But it's a novelty adventure Rangers are on and fans want to be part of it, it's an easy sell

    LOL No they were not mate up until recently when McCoist said he was backing Green we had only sold a couple of hundred after recent events its going to take a lot to win over us fans

    Alot to win the fans over??? so what are the 45,000 season ticket holders just the portion of those easily won over. You sold season tickets once the league and license was sorted


  • #5515
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Soups123 wrote: »
    Alot to win the fans over??? so what are the 45,000 season ticket holders just the portion of those easily won over. You sold season tickets once the league and license was sorted

    If you think we were persuaded that easy you no nothing even now if you visit FF which I don't use Green is disliked to say the least. And as I say until Ally gave his backing to Green the amount of season tickets sold was laughable.

    I really love it when people tell me how us Gers fans feel ;)


  • #5516
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    RoryMac wrote: »
    Nobody bought season tickets before the licence was granted for obvious reasons but as soon as you got your temp licence the season ticket sales began.

    Not sure if you're serious about it taking a lot to win you over?!?

    A lot more serious than you think I don't know why people believe we were won over easily in fact most of us are only giving Green the benefit of the doubt so far


  • #5517
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    A lot more serious than you think I don't know why people believe we were won over easily in fact most of us are only giving Green the benefit of the doubt so far

    The only thing I've seen from Green has been statements designed to play to the galleries, the bigotry claims, the imaginary line down the street that dictates your signings, the balance sheet being better than Celtic's by the end of the season etc etc

    I've no doubt you know more about the other work he has done behind the scenes but on the original points there was never a real chance of a big drop in season tickets sales, as soon as the licence was granted the season tickets were snapped up, same as it ever was.

    I don't deny it is very impressive but certainly no surprise to me.


  • #5518
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    RoryMac wrote: »
    The only thing I've seen from Green has been statements designed to play to the galleries, the bigotry claims, the imaginary line down the street that dictates your signings, the balance sheet being better than Celtic's by the end of the season etc etc

    I've no doubt you know more about the other work he has done behind the scenes but on the original points there was never a real chance of a big drop in season tickets sales, as soon as the licence was granted the season tickets were snapped up, same as it ever was.

    I don't deny it is very impressive but certainly no surprise to me.

    Ah the good old Bigotry claim you know many bears are trying to get it over it almost certainly is religious bigotry which unfortunately as soon as the word bigotry is said is the thing that everybody thinks it is


  • #5519
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    RoryMac wrote: »
    The only thing I've seen from Green has been statements designed to play to the galleries, the bigotry claims, the imaginary line down the street that dictates your signings, the balance sheet being better than Celtic's by the end of the season etc etc

    I've no doubt you know more about the other work he has done behind the scenes but on the original points there was never a real chance of a big drop in season tickets sales, as soon as the licence was granted the season tickets were snapped up, same as it ever was.

    I don't deny it is very impressive but certainly no surprise to me.

    Ah the good old Bigotry claim you know many bears are trying to get it over it almost certainly is religious bigotry which unfortunately as soon as the word bigotry is said is the thing that everybody thinks it is

    You know as well as anyone that the mere mention of bigotry from a guy in Green's position is going to be news, he should've been clear about exactly his point was rather than leaving it to fans to decipher.

    Either way the statement was just another example of him playing to the Rangers fans who believe there is an agenda against them within Scottish football.


  • #5520
    Soups123
    Registered Users Posts: 8,977 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Soups123 wrote: »
    Alot to win the fans over??? so what are the 45,000 season ticket holders just the portion of those easily won over. You sold season tickets once the league and license was sorted

    If you think we were persuaded that easy you no nothing even now if you visit FF which I don't use Green is disliked to say the least. And as I say until Ally gave his backing to Green the amount of season tickets sold was laughable.

    I really love it when people tell me how us Gers fans feel ;)
    I didn't say how you or other fans feel, it was a simple response to ur stats post, my point being its nothing new.


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  • #5521
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Soups123 wrote: »
    I didn't say how you or other fans feel, it was a simple response to ur stats post, my point being its nothing new.

    The thing is in some ways it is we are in div three also we have a new owner who still has to gain our trust.
    I will also say I know how Rangers fans can turn there back on the team I remember going to Ibrox and standing in crowds of 9/10 thousand. We like most football fans can be a fickle bunch :p


  • #5522
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Maybe this might stop the nonsense about world record crowds in some sections of the Scottish media and the rangers support
    http://m.sambafoot.com/en/news/24837_fourth-tier_game_attracts_60_000_spectators.html
    Last night in the Estádio do Arruda in Recife, an attendance of 59,966 was recorded as home-side Santa Cruz booked a return to Série C with a 0-0 with Treze


    Having come from 3-1 down away from home to pull level at 3-3, the result was enough for the Pernambuco side, long regarded as one of the best supported in Brazil.

    Despite their lowely status, Santa Cruz have regularly attracted massive crowd figures and bost a massively loyal support, a feature of North-Eastern sides in Brazil.

    Other teams promoted to Série C include Oeste and Mirassol.


  • #5523
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Maybe this might stop the nonsense about world record crowds in some sections of the Scottish media and the rangers support
    http://m.sambafoot.com/en/news/24837_fourth-tier_game_attracts_60_000_spectators.html

    Ah, they're riding a bit of a "novelty" wave now anyway. Cheap tickets combined with the new journey has seen attendances be high.
    In 12/18 months you can be sure they'll have fallen once the novelty has worn off. And the thousands that travel over from the 6 counties won't be as ready to spend their money on flights/ferrys and hotels.
    And the same would have happened had it been us.


  • #5524
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Savage Tyrant wrote: »
    Ah, they're riding a bit of a "novelty" wave now anyway. Cheap tickets combined with the new journey has seen attendances be high.
    In 12/18 months you can be sure they'll have fallen once the novelty has worn off. And the thousands that travel over from the 6 counties won't be as ready to spend their money on flights/ferrys and hotels.
    And the same would have happened had it been us.

    Really the smell of desperation from you lot is tangible :p


  • #5525
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Really the smell of desperation from you lot is tangible :p

    How is it desperation? It's just how I (and many others) read the current situation.
    I've said it would be the same were it our club that had to start anew. Do you disagree?


  • #5526
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Savage Tyrant wrote: »
    How is it desperation? It's just how I (and many others) read the current situation.
    I've said it would be the same were it our club that had to start anew. Do you disagree?

    Well our club is not new please realise this

    And to a certain extent I do disagree I think our home crowds will top over 40,00 for home games this season and won,t drop before we are back in the top flight


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  • #5527
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Well our club is not new please realise this

    And to a certain extent I do disagree I think our home crowds will top over 40,00 for home games this season and won,t drop before we are back in the top flight

    Well that is your opinion, just as I voiced mine. I didn't voice it out of desperation, just in response to the post i quoted. Neither one of us can know beyond all certainty. But I'll hold my hands up and say I'm wrong if by the second half of next season you's draw a regular home crowd anywhere even close to capacity.


  • #5528
    SomethingElse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭SomethingElse


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    Well our club is not new please realise this

    And to a certain extent I do disagree I think our home crowds will top over 40,00 for home games this season and won,t drop before we are back in the top flight

    If your club isn't new, how did it end up in division 3?


  • #5529
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    SomethingElse wrote: »
    If your club isn't new, how did it end up in division 3?

    We were thrown out of the SPL and had to apply to the SFL Oh we have a new company running us but the club is the same. I suggest you go onto the sfl site and check out the club page


  • #5530
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    SomethingElse wrote: »
    If your club isn't new, how did it end up in division 3?

    We were thrown out of the SPL and had to apply to the SFL Oh we have a new company running us but the club is the same. I suggest you go onto the sfl site and check out the club page
    I'd imagine everyone who provided services to THE FOOTBALL CLUB without being paid will be interested to know its the same.


  • #5531
    SomethingElse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭SomethingElse


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    We were thrown out of the SPL and had to apply to the SFL Oh we have a new company running us but the club is the same. I suggest you go onto the sfl site and check out the club page

    How does a club get thrown out of the SPL? Are you sure it wasn't that the new club were rejected when they applied for SPL status? That would be my understanding of the situation


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  • #5532
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    I'd imagine everyone who provided services to THE FOOTBALL CLUB without being paid will be interested to know its the same.

    Oh its been explained over and over I am sure you will find all about it if you look I am pretty fed up going over the same stuff over and over again.

    Oh it not only the official SFL website that has all our history on it the SPL one does to


  • #5533
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Maybe this might stop the nonsense about world record crowds in some sections of the Scottish media and the rangers support
    http://m.sambafoot.com/en/news/24837_fourth-tier_game_attracts_60_000_spectators.html

    Took you lot long enough to come up with that, I've seen it on plenty of other message boards.

    The problem with it is, it's not a league game.
    It's a play-off game.

    Otherwise we would count the play-off final of Bristol City in 2007 too, which had over 60.000 in attendance.


  • #5534
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Rangers claiming the record for the highest attendance in 4th tier football is a bit like a kid held back a year in school boasting about being the tallest in the class.


  • #5535
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    RoryMac wrote: »
    Rangers claiming the record for the highest attendance in 4th tier football is a bit like a kid held back a year in school boasting about being the tallest in the class.
    That's right Celtic would never claim anything that others didn't oh wait wartime goals seem to ring a bell
    Really it's a legitimate claim and I am dam sure if positions were reversed the tic would would be clamping it


  • #5536
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,286 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Took you lot long enough to come up with that, I've seen it on plenty of other message boards.

    The problem with it is, it's not a league game.
    It's a play-off game.

    Otherwise we would count the play-off final of Bristol City in 2007 too, which had over 60.000 in attendance.

    Less than 2 hours after you posted the world 'record' yesterday

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80305155&postcount=5505


  • #5537
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    RoryMac wrote: »
    Rangers claiming the record for the highest attendance in 4th tier football is a bit like a kid held back a year in school boasting about being the tallest in the class.
    That's right Celtic would never claim anything that others didn't oh wait wartime goals seem to ring a bell
    Really it's a legitimate claim and I am dam sure if positions were reversed the tic would would be claiming it


  • #5538
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    RoryMac wrote: »
    Rangers claiming the record for the highest attendance in 4th tier football is a bit like a kid held back a year in school boasting about being the tallest in the class.
    That's right Celtic would never claim anything that others didn't oh wait wartime goals seem to ring a bell
    Really it's a legitimate claim and I am dam sure if positions were reversed the tic would would be clamping it

    Lets be honest it's a laughable claim even moreso that you have to disregard playoff games to make it stand up.

    I can assure you I wouldn't be claiming it in your position though I'm sure others would.


  • #5539
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    Less than 2 hours after you posted the world 'record' yesterday

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80305155&postcount=5505

    Well sorry for not looking through every page.

    Still wrong though.

    Laughable though, that fans of a club who was so proud that they got the Greatest Fans in the World award are now up in arms because Rangers claim something too.

    And I'm not even mentioning the 'Suville calculator'


  • #5540
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    Less than 2 hours after you posted the world 'record' yesterday

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80305155&postcount=5505

    Well sorry for not looking through every page.

    Still wrong though.

    Laughable though, that fans of a club who was so proud that they got the Greatest Fans in the World award are now up in arms because Rangers claim something too.

    And I'm not even mentioning the 'Suville calculator'

    Hardly up in arms, just think it's funny you see the need to claim such a pointless record.


  • #5541
    blahfckingblah
    Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭blahfckingblah


    Jelle1880 wrote: »

    And I'm not even mentioning the 'Suville calculator'

    i think you'll find you just did ;)


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  • #5542
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,286 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Well sorry for not looking through every page.

    Still wrong though.

    Laughable though, that fans of a club who was so proud that they got the Greatest Fans in the World award are now up in arms because Rangers claim something too.

    And I'm not even mentioning the 'Suville calculator'

    Every page? It was the next post after yours! :pac: :pac:

    It is not wrong. You came onto this site claiming a world record which was debunked within a couple of hours of your post and now you are saying it is laughable that it was debunked! The only thing laughable is the tenuous need to claim the attendence record :confused:


  • #5543
    SomethingElse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭SomethingElse


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    Every page? It was the next post after yours! :pac: :pac:

    It is not wrong. You came onto this site claiming a world record which was debunked within a couple of hours of your post and now you are saying it is laughable that it was debunked! The only thing laughable is the tenuous need to claim the attendence record :confused:

    It's a world record for the fourth tier of Scottish football. Give them some credit, they obliterated the previous record.


  • #5544
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    Every page? It was the next post after yours! :pac: :pac:

    It is not wrong. You came onto this site claiming a world record which was debunked within a couple of hours of your post and now you are saying it is laughable that it was debunked! The only thing laughable is the tenuous need to claim the attendence record :confused:

    I wouldn't call it 'debunked'.
    It's a world record for a regular 4th division league game, and no matter how much you try and discredit it, there's no way around it.

    It's laughable that Celtic fans feel the need to look up some obscure match from Brazil.
    One would think you actually cared :pac:


  • #5545
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    SomethingElse wrote: »
    It's a world record for the fourth tier of Scottish football. Give them some credit, they obliterated the previous record.

    You really don't get it do you its a world record for a 4th tier LEAGUE game not a playoff or a cup game but a LEAGUEgame

    :p


  • #5546
    SomethingElse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭SomethingElse


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    You really don't get it do you its a world record for a 4th tier LEAGUE game not a playoff or a cup game but a LEAGUEgame

    :p

    Does the Brazilian league count in determining a world record? No?


  • #5547
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    SomethingElse wrote: »
    Does the Brazilian league count in determining a world record? No?

    Think you will find that is classed as a playoff game. If I am wrong I will admit it but I don't think I am in this case


  • #5548
    LiamoSail
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭LiamoSail


    What price were the tickets the other day?


  • #5549
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    LOL @ Rangers for thinking their great for breaking records against part timers. /slow clap


  • #5550
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    LiamoSail wrote: »
    What price were the tickets the other day?

    I think something like 14-15 pound.

    Dry your eyes Dempsey, it's getting pathetic.


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  • #5551
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    I think something like 14-15 pound.

    Dry your eyes Dempsey, it's getting pathetic.

    Why would I be drying my eyes? :confused:

    Tell us all about the records ye think ye broke in division 3, they're amazing feats! :pac:


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