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Trying to tax my car - R J Kiln not an option for Insurers...

  • 25-10-2014 11:30pm
    #1
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭


    on the drop down menu on motortax.ie, anyone else have this issue?


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  • #2
    meathstevie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Is it a broker ?


  • #3
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The name of your insurer is usually on the disc.

    (Probably Lloyds)


  • #4
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    meathstevie wrote: »
    Is it a broker ?

    Nope, Chill.ie are the brokers.


  • #5
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The name of your insurer is usually on the disc.

    (Probably Lloyds)

    The name on the disc is R J Kiln, I think it might be Lloyds as well by googling it but name on disc is R J Kiln.


  • #6
    meathstevie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Just checked them, they're underwriters at Lloyds.


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  • #7
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    meathstevie wrote: »
    Just checked them, they're underwriters at Lloyds.

    Will choose Lloyds so and see what happens!

    Cheers.


  • #8
    meathstevie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    You can always go to the motortax office with your paperwork and tax it the old-fashioned way.


  • #9
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    meathstevie wrote: »
    You can always go to the motortax office with your paperwork and tax it the old-fashioned way.

    Much more fun doing it half cut from my couch!


  • #10
    Rob Thomas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Rob Thomas


    RJ Kiln is a management agent which operates in the Lloyds insurance market so you should select Lloyds if your disc states RJ Kiln.


  • #11
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Doesn't matter what company you pick. I tried it last week as a test for my dads van with 12345678 and some random company and his commercial tax disc arrive a few days later.


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  • #12
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Rob Thomas wrote: »
    RJ Kiln is a management agent which operates in the Lloyds insurance market so you should select Lloyds if your disc states RJ Kiln.

    Should I choose "Lloyds Companies" or "Lloyds (UK)"?

    ...or does it matter?


  • #13
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    kceire wrote: »
    Doesn't matter what company you pick. I tried it last week as a test for my dads van with 12345678 and some random company and his commercial tax disc arrive a few days later.

    The Finglas way!


  • #14
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    The Finglas way!

    I've been trying different ways over the last year or two and I've never been refused a disc. I just randomly guess numbers and that for our motors!


  • #15
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    That's the Motor Tax paid for the year... they won't be getting a cent more out of me for the water tax though!:D


  • #16
    Rob Thomas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Rob Thomas


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    Should I choose "Lloyds Companies" or "Lloyds (UK)"?

    ...or does it matter?

    Lloyds UK - they are not a Lloyds company - they're an agent.

    Anyway, I see you've sorted it. Great feeling paying over the tax..........


  • #17
    Ceptabc
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Ceptabc


    How strange - same problem has raised it's head for me, today, i.e.May 2015. Still had to search R J Kiln on line, as with you guys 7, 8, 9 and 10 years ago. Am I alone in not having a paper trail, or an internet receipt? I keep papers for a while, and have my insurance since 2012. Yet I could not locate anything.


  • #18
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭mik_da_man


    I dunt think I've ever put in my full details there when taxing the car, random insurer and digits and never had an issue...

    Cars were always properly insured, just couldn't be bothered filling it out.

    Don't really see the purpose of it if it's not validated...


  • #19
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Ceptabc wrote: »
    How strange - same problem has raised it's head for me, today, i.e.May 2015. Still had to search R J Kiln on line, as with you guys 7, 8, 9 and 10 years ago. Am I alone in not having a paper trail, or an internet receipt? I keep papers for a while, and have my insurance since 2012. Yet I could not locate anything.

    Is online motor tax around that long?


  • #20
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    I dunt think I've ever put in my full details there when taxing the car, random insurer and digits and never had an issue...

    Cars were always properly insured, just couldn't be bothered filling it out.

    Don't really see the purpose of it if it's not validated...

    IIRC it was supposed to make insurance part of the ANPR system but with the lag between people taxing their cars and getting insurance, and no validation of this, it doesn't work so they dropped the insurance from ANPR.


  • #21
    Dial Hard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,917 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    bobbysands81 wrote:
    ...or does it matter?


    It doesn't matter. The online motor tax system isn't linked to any insurance database. Pick whatever insurer and policy number you want. All you have to do is fill in the fields.


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  • #22
    Rackstar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭Rackstar


    kceire wrote: »
    Is online motor tax around that long?

    Looking at the website I'd say yes!


  • #23
    mgbgt1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,245 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Del2005 wrote: »
    IIRC it was supposed to make insurance part of the ANPR system but with the lag between people taxing their cars and getting insurance, and no validation of this, it doesn't work so they dropped the insurance from ANPR.

    AFAIK the ANPR system was/is supposed to be supplied by Data from the Insurers themselves.
    The reason for putting Insurance details on the Tax renewal form goes back to the days when you actually had to produce a valid Insurance Cert when Taxing your car.
    They just never changed the layout of the Form, even though they no longer require you to show proof of Insurance when renewing your Motor Tax.


  • #24
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    AFAIK the ANPR system was/is supposed to be supplied by Data from the Insurers themselves.
    The reason for putting Insurance details on the Tax renewal form goes back to the days when you actually had to produce a valid Insurance Cert when Taxing your car.
    They just never changed the layout of the Form, even though they no longer require you to show proof of Insurance when renewing your Motor Tax.

    Even if you go the old fashioned route and do it in person at the tax office? Talk about going backwards...


  • #25
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    You can put in anything and make up a policy number. It's not cross referenced and isn't collated anywhere so pick any company you want, it's purely for record/statistical purposes.


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