Irish 23 Man Squad - The Run In

kitakyushu · 05-05-2012 12:19pm

Name Changed wrote: »

It would be absolutely outrageous if McCarthy misses out in the squad. It was be unbelievably outrageous if Paul Green was in and he wasn't.

I think it'd be outrageous if either went. The former because of his questionable attitude during this campaign and the latter because he's basically just rubbish and offers nothing to the squad at this point in time.

TheRedDevil10 · 05-05-2012 12:54pm

Why hasn't anyone mentioned Lawrence ?

briany · 05-05-2012 1:00pm

TheRedDevil10 wrote: »

Why hasn't anyone mentioned Lawrence ?

Lawrence is totally out of favor at the moment which is strange considering that he was once shaping up to be a stalwart of the Trap set up, albeit a perennial sub/backup. I'd prefer him slightly over Hunt.

seklly · 05-05-2012 1:40pm

Good first half for Hoolahan, maybe too late to change Trap's mind

WoollyRedHat · 05-05-2012 1:43pm

briany wrote: »

Lawrence is totally out of favor at the moment which is strange considering that he was once shaping up to be a stalwart of the Trap set up, albeit a perennial sub/backup. I'd prefer him slightly over Hunt.

I'd prefer him over Hunt too. If we have Mc Clean coming along, Hunt isn't as important, and correct me if I'm wrong, he hasn't been getting his game for Wolves at all, which is not good considering, well it's Wolves.

kitakyushu · 05-05-2012 1:44pm

briany wrote: »

Lawrence is totally out of favor at the moment which is strange considering that he was once shaping up to be a stalwart of the Trap set up, albeit a perennial sub/backup. I'd prefer him slightly over Hunt.

I think once Andrews and Whelan demonstrated they could cause damage with indirect freekicks then Lawrence pretty much became surplus to requirements.

Name Changed · 05-05-2012 3:11pm

kitakyushu wrote: »

I think it'd be outrageous if either went. The former because of his questionable attitude during this campaign and the latter because he's basically just rubbish and offers nothing to the squad at this point in time.

Can McCarthy's attitude be faulted? He turns up consistently (after a previous misunderstanding) and seems to be the one player who never gets a run, despite Trap constantly saying that he will give him a run. If I were McCarthy, I would be extremely disillusioned.

Name Changed · 05-05-2012 3:12pm

TheRedDevil10 wrote: »

Why hasn't anyone mentioned Lawrence ?

Maybe people are hoping he'll be forgotten about. Most people want McClean in the squad.

briany · 05-05-2012 4:07pm

kitakyushu wrote: »

I think once Andrews and Whelan demonstrated they could cause damage with indirect freekicks then Lawrence pretty much became surplus to requirements.

I don't think that Lawrence's only value was as a free kick specialist though. Both him and Hunt are fairly handy on the free kicks but I just think that as a choice for second winger, Lawrence offered a bit more skill on the ball, Hunt - more enthusiasm but Lawrence had enthusiasm himself and put in a lot of graft when he played, probably because he knew he was really fighting for his place.

darkman2 · 06-05-2012 3:55pm

He won't be in the squad but Ciaran Clark scored for Villa today.

WilcoOut · 06-05-2012 4:20pm

darkman2 wrote: »

He won't be in the squad but Ciaran Clark scored for Villa today.

and dunne and andrews gave away penos!

hopefully theyre gettin em out of their system before poland

mystic86 · 07-05-2012 1:46am

Anybody know what time the team announcement is at??

Revolution9 · 07-05-2012 1:52am

Tony Leen, the sports editor for the Irish Examiner, tweeted this tonight:

One Republic of Ireland player will dominate tmrws Euro 2012 squad announcement: the one who has to pull out for 'personal reasons' Sad.

Link

cup of tea · 07-05-2012 2:04am

Must say having watched duff and kelly in the last few weeks they are both in fantastic form, which is great for us. However I don't think Trap will leave Kelly push as far forward as he does at Fulham.

AgileMyth · 07-05-2012 3:25am

darkman2 wrote: »

He won't be in the squad but Ciaran Clark scored for Villa today.

Madness that he won't make it. Hes probably our best option at left back and covers two other positions very well too.

Corholio · 07-05-2012 3:33am

AgileMyth wrote: »

Madness that he won't make it. Hes probably our best option at left back and covers two other positions very well too.

He's not comfortable at left back at all. I really like him as a centre mid, even though he's naturally a centre back.

Jimmy Iovine · 07-05-2012 4:43am

mystic86 wrote: »

Anybody know what time the team announcement is at??

3.30. RTE are streaming it online.

willowthewisp · 07-05-2012 7:36am

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

3.30. RTE are streaming it online.

Today?

Name Changed · 07-05-2012 9:00am

willowthewisp wrote: »

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

3.30. RTE are streaming it online.

Today?

Yep.

professore · 07-05-2012 10:15am

Sin City wrote: »

Normally I would have thought so too, but I think Cox has leap frogged over those ahead of him (strange considering his position at WB)

We do know that Trap doesnt always pick the best players but those who he likes of fits in his system

Cox does both

Cox always plays well for us. I'd have him in.

Guy:Incognito · 07-05-2012 10:24am

Are all teams releasing their squads today or is there still time to the deadline?

cgpg5 · 07-05-2012 10:29am

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Are all teams releasing their squads today or is there still time to the deadline?

Deadline is the 29th may or something. I'd imagine most will release squads this week though. Even though, I know England are releasing theirs next Monday

Raskolnikov · 07-05-2012 10:47am

Stephen Hunt has said the player pulling out for personal reason isn't him. Aiden McGeady's father has said it isn't him. Sean St. Ledger has suggested it is a midfielder.

http://www.joe.ie/euro-2012/euro-2012-news/at-least-we-know-stephen-hunt-is-not-the-mystery-irish-player-thats-going-to-miss-the-euros-0024381-1
http://www.joe.ie/euro-2012/euro-2012-news/aiden-mcgeadys-all-set-for-euros-according-to-his-father-0024404-1

cgpg5 · 07-05-2012 10:59am

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Stephen Hunt has said the player pulling out for personal reason isn't him. Aiden McGeady's father has said it isn't him. Sean St. Ledger has suggested it is a midfielder.

http://www.joe.ie/euro-2012/euro-2012-news/at-least-we-know-stephen-hunt-is-not-the-mystery-irish-player-thats-going-to-miss-the-euros-0024381-1
http://www.joe.ie/euro-2012/euro-2012-news/aiden-mcgeadys-all-set-for-euros-according-to-his-father-0024404-1

By process of elimination we're getting there

Ah no all will be revealed by 1530 GMT. It would seem that there are only 3 places in any way up for grabs (without factoring in the player pulling out). I'd assume that these will go to the versatile Kevin Foley, James McCarthy and Keith Fahey. Think McClean's only hope is that the player pulling out is a midfielder or else that Fahey's groin injury will count against him

willowthewisp · 07-05-2012 11:05am

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Stephen Hunt has said the player pulling out for personal reason isn't him. Aiden McGeady's father has said it isn't him. Sean St. Ledger has suggested it is a midfielder.

http://www.joe.ie/euro-2012/euro-2012-news/at-least-we-know-stephen-hunt-is-not-the-mystery-irish-player-thats-going-to-miss-the-euros-0024381-1
http://www.joe.ie/euro-2012/euro-2012-news/aiden-mcgeadys-all-set-for-euros-according-to-his-father-0024404-1

Kevin Doyle or Shane Long?

Raskolnikov · 07-05-2012 11:17am

willowthewisp wrote: »

Kevin Doyle or Shane Long?

Eh, St. Ledger stating that it's a midfielder rules these two out.

briany · 07-05-2012 11:20am

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Stephen Hunt has said the player pulling out for personal reason isn't him. Aiden McGeady's father has said it isn't him. Sean St. Ledger has suggested it is a midfielder.

Would have been unimaginable for Stephen Hunt to be the one not going. Doubt there's a personal crisis serious enough to keep him away.

The_Kew_Tour · 07-05-2012 11:24am

Duff is only big name that seems be left so.

Anybody else wont be as big a loss.

baldbear · 07-05-2012 11:52am

Heard who it is. hope everythings ok with him and his family. Massive loss.

Sin City · 07-05-2012 11:54am

baldbear wrote: »

Heard who it is. hope everythings ok with him and his family. Massive loss.

Any chance of enlightening the rest of us?

GLaDOS · 07-05-2012 11:54am

If it's Duff I'll be genuinely sad for him. Been a fantastic servant for Ireland over the last 10 years or so, probably his last chance to go to a major international tournament.

willowthewisp · 07-05-2012 11:55am

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Eh, St. Ledger stating that it's a midfielder rules these two out.

Suggested?

theavenger · 07-05-2012 11:59am

baldbear wrote: »

Heard who it is. hope everythings ok with him and his family. Massive loss.

????

darkman2 · 07-05-2012 12:00pm

baldbear wrote: »

Heard who it is. hope everythings ok with him and his family. Massive loss.

ffs I really hate this type of thing. If you know who it is just say it. There is nothing mystical about it.:rolleyes:

darkman2 · 07-05-2012 12:01pm

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Eh, St. Ledger stating that it's a midfielder rules these two out.

Andrews, Whelan? Can't be McCarthy surely. He is not a "key" player.

ASOT · 07-05-2012 12:01pm

He obviously doesnt know....

The_Kew_Tour · 07-05-2012 12:02pm

baldbear wrote: »

Heard who it is. hope everythings ok with him and his family. Massive loss.

Why bother!!!

cgpg5 · 07-05-2012 12:03pm

No-one knows anything. He's just a WUM. Childish stuff.

Anyway all will be revealed at half 3

homerjay2005 · 07-05-2012 12:07pm

this should never have developed into the story that it is, its now going to overshadow the squad announcement today.

i think fahey/green, coleman, o dea and mcshane will be the 4 lads name in reserve and trap will pick 3 keepers, 7 defenders, 4 wingers, 4 cms, 5 strikers.

3 keepers pick themselves.
7 defenders will be kelly, foley, dunne, o shea, Sledge, o dea, ward
4 wingers - mcclane, mcgeedy, hunt, mccarthy
4 cm - gibson, andrews,whelan,

the 5 strikers will be cox, walters, keane, doyle long

that leaves one space and i think its a direct shootout between green and fahey. logic suggest fahey will get that place, but i have a very bad hunch that green will get it

darkman2 · 07-05-2012 12:11pm

Just curious can anyone think of a single logical reason why Green should be in the squad? I just can't.

ASOT · 07-05-2012 12:14pm

darkman2 wrote: »

Just curious can anyone think of a single logical reason why Green should be in the squad? I just can't.

Because his second name is green, the jersey is green, green is associated with ireland therefore hes in the squad.

briany · 07-05-2012 12:15pm

darkman2 wrote: »

Just curious can anyone think of a single logical reason why Green should be in the squad? I just can't.

He looks a bit like Paul McShane. That's about the best reason that I can think of.

Raskolnikov · 07-05-2012 12:15pm

darkman2 wrote: »

Just curious can anyone think of a single logical reason why Green should be in the squad? I just can't.

I don't understand the fixation with Paul Green. The only reason he got called up for the squad in the last friendly was because Gibson was injured.

karma_ · 07-05-2012 12:15pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

this should never have developed into the story that it is, its now going to overshadow the squad announcement today.

Could not agree with you more homer, the FAI should have just announced it when the news came to light instead of allowing it to build itself into a huge drama.

doomed · 07-05-2012 12:16pm

darkman2 wrote: »

Just curious can anyone think of a single logical reason why Green should be in the squad? I just can't.

Beats me, but I think he will be there.

Seems odd that a pretty bog standard performer for Derby will be on the plane while two regulars who helped get Reading promoted haven't a sniff let alone premiership regulars like Wilson and Hoolahan.

Sin City · 07-05-2012 12:17pm

ASOT wrote: »

Because his second name is green, the jersey is green, green is associated with ireland therefore hes in the squad.

By that logic Stephen Ireland will be in the squad too lol

Or is he the senior player who is out for personal reasons , ie he is mental

homerjay2005 · 07-05-2012 12:20pm

Raskolnikov wrote: »

I don't understand the fixation with Paul Green. The only reason he got called up for the squad in the last friendly was because Gibson was injured.

what you mean?

there is a change, no matter how small it is, that he will be in the squad today. people are talkign about him, as nobody thinks that he deserves to be even in contention.

hopefully he wont, but until its announced, people will be worried about it! its him v fahey directly IMO though i would say they are different players.

Dots1982 · 07-05-2012 12:29pm

Anyone think the player who can't make it is just a red herring.

I'd say Trap is just having a laugh, probably going to announce that Andy Reid, Stephen Ireland and Caleb Folan can't make for personal reasons.

cgpg5 · 07-05-2012 12:29pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

this should never have developed into the story that it is, its now going to overshadow the squad announcement today.

i think fahey/green, coleman, o dea and mcshane will be the 4 lads name in reserve and trap will pick 3 keepers, 7 defenders, 4 wingers, 4 cms, 5 strikers.

3 keepers pick themselves.
7 defenders will be kelly, foley, dunne, o shea, Sledge, o dea, ward
4 wingers - mcclane, mcgeedy, hunt, mccarthy
4 cm - gibson, andrews,whelan,

the 5 strikers will be cox, walters, keane, doyle long

that leaves one space and i think its a direct shootout between green and fahey. logic suggest fahey will get that place, but i have a very bad hunch that green will get it

This appears to be going on the assumption Duff won't make it. If he does who misses out?

I agree, I actually have a terrible feeling Green will make it and I have an even worse feeling McClean will miss out if everyone is available. Think it's either Green or McCarthy, and Fahey will make it imo

cgpg5 · 07-05-2012 12:31pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

Anyone think the player who can't make it is just a red herring.

I'd say Trap is just having a laugh, probably going to announce that Andy Reid, Stephen Ireland and Caleb Folan can't make for personal reasons.

Why would he do that though? It's not proving anything.

Irish 23 Man Squad - The Run In

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