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Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

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  • #5052
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Be sweet if he was watching and had a hope of getting Kroos too :)


  • #5053
    Mikeyt086
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    I watched a review of Dortmund's season in the Bundesliga this morning, and I already was really in favour of us signing Kagawa, but now...

    WANT!


  • #5054
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Coletrickle88 wrote: »
    Fergie watching the German cup final :)

    Just came on to post that. Beautiful news. Really shows his intent if he's over there the night before such a huge game.

    Imagine if he missed his flight cause he went for a few quiet ones after the match :P.


  • #5055
    IncognitoMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    Mikeyt086 wrote: »
    I watched a review of Dortmund's season in the Bundesliga this morning, and I already was really in favour of us signing Kagawa, but now...

    WANT!

    Can I ask for a link? Is so Ill have a link please


  • #5056
    Jax Teller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    a02e5fe5.jpg

    Watch the Sunday papers go mad now


  • #5057
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Coletrickle88 wrote: »
    Watch the Sunday papers go mad now

    The editors will be going crazy. All their deadlines will be messed up now. I'd love if some paper had a story about United having no interest at all in Kagawa.


  • #5058
    redzerdrog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    fergie no doubt looking at either a winger or a centre back ;)


  • #5059
    Shane St.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Shane St.


    Anyone regularly watch Dormund? What kind of player is he? Where would he fit in?


  • #5060
    CR 7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭CR 7


    If I was Fergie I'd be at that game too, wait til after the deadlines for all the morning tabloids, and then hold a press conference announcing the signing of Hazard.:pac:


  • #5061
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Seriously hoping City have the caterers Spurs used in 2006.


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  • #5062
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Im resigned to seeing City have league won by half time im afraid.

    But Sparky on the back of my Jersey awaits if we do somehow manage a miracle.


  • #5063
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Micky Phelan looks like he's in a Laurel & Hardy movie in that photo, "tactics,eh don't ask me boss"


  • #5064
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,946 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Fergie looks ready to deck Phelan with the clenched right fist


  • #5065
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Fergie looks ready to deck Phelan with the clenched right fist

    That would not be bad thing.


  • #5066
    Jax Teller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    Kagawa set up a goal there with a lovely ball.


  • #5067
    Mikeyt086
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    IncognitoMan wrote: »
    Can I ask for a link? Is so Ill have a link please

    Wasn't online it was on ESPN.


  • #5068
    Rojiblancos
    Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭Rojiblancos


    Goal and an assist in the first half for Kagawa. Nice pass to set up the goal.. tends to stop when he losses possession, though Fergie will sort that out


  • #5069
    JaMarcus Hustle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    ESPN are showing delayed coverage at 11pm fwiw.


  • #5070
    Giggsy11
    Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    Good to see Kagawa having great game when Fergie is watching. Goal and an assist and his link up play is very good. Impressed with his short passing and making himself available for ball. Only problem would be how do we fit him in our team as his best position is where Rooney plays.


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  • #5071
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,946 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Giggsy11 wrote: »
    Good to see Kagawa having great game when Fergie is watching. Goal and an assist and his link up play is very good. Impressed with his short passing and making himself available for ball. Only problem would be how do we fit him in our team as his best position is where Rooney plays.

    Move Rooney up to his best position...


  • #5072
    Giggsy11
    Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    Shane St. wrote: »
    Anyone regularly watch Dormund? What kind of player is he? Where would he fit in?

    I dont watch all games but I watch most of the games. His best position is behind striker and playing him deeper would be useless as in the final third is where he is class.


  • #5073
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    The blue away strip from 2002/2003 was one of my favorites...

    manu02ts_z.jpg

    ManchesterUnitedKitPhoto1212-20021.png


  • #5074
    Giggsy11
    Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Move Rooney up to his best position...

    Rooney's best position is where he played this season and last season, not where he played in 09/10. He is superb #10.

    In 09/10 he scored many goals but many games and most of the games he was isolated.


  • #5075
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Lovely jersey, forgot that one.

    Plain is best most the time


  • #5076
    Shane St.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Shane St.


    Giggsy11 wrote: »
    I dont watch all games but I watch most of the games. His best position is behind striker and playing him deeper would be useless as in the final third is where he is class.

    Pity that, as that will prob means less game time for Welbeck who I'm a massive fan of. Still if he's as good as people are making out and he's relatively cheap u can never have enough quality players


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  • #5077
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,946 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Giggsy11 wrote: »
    Rooney's best position is where he played this season and last season, not where he played in 09/10. He is superb #10.

    In 09/10 he scored many goals but many games and most of the games he was isolated.

    Rooney played so well up front on his own, imagine him with someone who can unlock defences like Kagawa playing behind him?

    I really don't want to see Hernandez or Welbeck demoted though. If Kagawa can adapt his came to play in a two man midfield then I'll be over the moon.


  • #5078
    Giggsy11
    Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    Blatter wrote: »
    The blue away strip from 2002/2003 was one of my favorites...

    manu02ts_z.jpg

    ManchesterUnitedKitPhoto1212-20021.png

    God how much I miss RVN even though we won so many trophies after he left. What a striker.

    Probably its good to stop posting old jerseys :(


  • #5079
    Giggsy11
    Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Rooney played so well up front on his own, imagine him with someone who can unlock defences like Kagawa playing behind him?

    I really don't want to see Hernandez or Welbeck demoted though. If Kagawa can adapt his came to play in a two man midfield then I'll be over the moon.

    He played well but he was not as effective. He was scoring regularly but his influence on the games was very less and Rooney's best position is behind striker. Like how he played second half of last season behind Hernandez.

    And re Kagawa, forget about midfield 2. He is not a CM. He is an attacking midfielder. Asking him to play in midfield 2 is like asking Kaka to play in midfield 2.


  • #5080
    G.K.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭G.K.


    I dunno how much Kagawa does running forward. If fou could get a false9/false 10 relationship going between Rooney and Kagawa it could work very nicely.


  • #5081
    Giggsy11
    Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    Does anyone think we have to change our tactics? I mean with 2 midfielders we will get overrun/outnumbered by most of the teams as they play 3 in the middle.

    Tactic to fit attacking midfielders like continental teams?


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  • #5082
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Giggsy11 wrote: »
    Rooney's best position is where he played this season and last season, not where he played in 09/10. He is superb #10.

    In 09/10 he scored many goals but many games and most of the games he was isolated.

    If you have a better link man between midfield and attack that can be rectified.

    I tend to agree though that Rooney is at his best when playing in the "hole"


  • #5083
    aperture_nuig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭aperture_nuig


    Fergie at the german Cup final today, Dortmund v Bayern. Kagawa with a great assist for a goal, and scored via a defensive error after 3 mins.


  • #5084
    Giggsy11
    Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    kryogen wrote: »
    If you have a better link man between midfield and attack that can be rectified.

    I tend to agree though that Rooney is at his best when playing in the "hole"

    Exactly what I said in my last post, that we need a tactic to fit attacking midfielder like continental style. Like how Kaka played at Milan, Ozil at Madrid, even Silva at City.


  • #5085
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    G.K. wrote: »
    I dunno how much Kagawa does running forward. If fou could get a false9/false 10 relationship going between Rooney and Kagawa it could work very nicely.

    The worry here is that we have two potential monsters in Welbeck and Hernandez. I'd like to see how they end up.


  • #5086
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Coletrickle88 wrote: »
    a02e5fe5.jpg

    Watch the Sunday papers go mad now

    ItsOnNowChapsL.jpg


  • #5087
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Dortmund are running riot here. Fergie better get Lewandowski as well.


  • #5088
    CR 7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭CR 7


    Kagawa central to the move that makes it 4-1.:)


  • #5089
    G.K.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭G.K.


    I agree, I think both, especially Welbeck, are destined for greatness.

    The alternative would be explore what could be gained from selling Rooney.


  • #5090
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    That run from Kagawa was great. Dragged the defender away from Lewandowski and allowed him more time.


  • #5091
    Nuri Sahin
    Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Rooney played so well up front on his own, imagine him with someone who can unlock defences like Kagawa playing behind him?

    I really don't want to see Hernandez or Welbeck demoted though. If Kagawa can adapt his came to play in a two man midfield then I'll be over the moon.

    I'll bet any amount to that failing.


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  • #5092
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,946 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    -Ade- wrote: »
    I'll bet any amount to that failing.

    I haven't watched him, I'm just hoping beyond hope.


  • #5093
    PhlegmyMoses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    G.K. wrote: »
    I agree, I think both, especially Welbeck, are destined for greatness.

    The alternative would be explore what could be gained from selling Rooney.

    Rooney is probably my favourite footballer when he is on form. Not just Manchester United player, but footballer in general. For that reason, I won't even consider the idea of him being sold.

    He has been the linchpin in so many games this season, even when off form. He worries other teams and creates space for others. No way would I sell him unless I was guaranteed Messi or Ronaldo to replace.


  • #5094
    Blatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Giggsy11 wrote: »
    Exactly what I said in my last post, that we need a tactic to fit attacking midfielder like continental style. Like how Kaka played at Milan, Ozil at Madrid, even Silva at City.

    IMO Rooney is as good defensively in the hole as any of those players. I don't think replacing Rooney in that position will make us any more solid. What will make us more solid is improving our deeper midfielders.
    PhlegmyMoses wrote: »
    The worry here is that we have two potential monsters in Welbeck and Hernandez. I'd like to see how they end up.

    There are plenty of games in a season, I wouldn't worry about them too much tbh.
    Rooney/Welbeck/Hernandez
    Kagawa/Nani/Young
    Rooney/Kagawa
    Valencia/Nani/Kagawa



    Don't know how comfortable Kagawa is starting out wide though. He's very skillful, quick and does drift out wide from the centre, so I think he would probably be okay. He's still young enough to improve defensively.


  • #5095
    DDC1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Don't know have any of ye read this but it made me laugh.
    Doesn't deserve its own thread IMO, but I wonder if any of ye agree with this "journalist".

    I love the line at the end:
    "Tim Long is a sports broadcaster and writer who has passed the basic referee course."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9259700/Revealed-the-decisions-that-cost-Manchester-United-the-title-and-handed-the-Premier-League-to-City.html

    He may have passed a referee course but he just failed the reality test.


  • #5096
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Dortmund have an average home attendance of 80,000 people per game!!?! :eek:


  • #5097
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Wow Ribery with a ****ing awesome goal!


  • #5098
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Read a post on RedCafe that made me lol:
    "Phelan has his trousers on,this is serious"
    :pac:


  • #5099
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Ha typical. I tune in just as Kagawa is being subbed. :pac:


  • #5100
    Mikeyt086
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    **** sake lads, the game isn't live but ESPN have extended highlights at 11pm which I was going to watch. REALLY did not expect spoilers, and then such detailed spoilers of the German Cup Final in the Manchester United thread.


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  • #5101
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've seen some Mike Phelan bashing while reading through the thread, seems to be the "in" thing to be do at the moment.
    But does anyone that has criticised him actually have any bloody clue what he does or doesn't do? Or are they pulling it out of their arsé?
    Sometimes it's hard to sit idly by and read through some of the absolute muck that comes out on this thread.


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