Meteor 4G

Mc Love · 12-11-2013 9:21pm #1

Got my Mifi device today - so far the 4G speed (14-15MBs) is alot faster than my ADSL speed of 4.5Mbs.

Only think is the damn thing isnt being picked up by my laptop. I have to connect it via the usb cable, which doesnt make it a mobile wifi device by any stretch! Mobile and Work laptop both see and can connect to it via wifi. Going to see if I can swap it in store even though I bought it online!

This is connected to my laptop

17-11-2013 1:43pm

That is very far off the 40 odd mb/s speeds we were promised, I wouldn't waste my money on this the upload is really crap ???

At least on my 6 mb Vodafone dsl I get unlimited download and so download at night at off peak times while I'm in bed.

What data limit is on this service from meteor ?

How much is it per month ?

Mc Love · 18-11-2013 11:44am

Data limit is 30Gb with the plan I went with! 29.99 a month.

I have to admit I test it every day and sometimes the upload even when connnected by VPN is 1-2 Mbs!

Cork981 · 18-11-2013 6:31pm

Meteor 4G vs 3G speedtest in CIT at 5.30pm

Cork981 · 18-11-2013 6:34pm

Better again

Cork981 · 18-11-2013 6:36pm

I'm using a 4G wifi dongle.

hallo dare · 18-11-2013 6:37pm

Mc Love wrote: »

Got my Mifi device today - so far the 4G speed (14-15MBs) is alot faster than my ADSL speed of 4.5Mbs.

Only think is the damn thing isnt being picked up by my laptop. I have to connect it via the usb cable, which doesnt make it a mobile wifi device by any stretch! Mobile and Work laptop both see and can connect to it via wifi. Going to see if I can swap it in store even though I bought it online!

This is connected to my laptop

Check your laptops ip if trying to connect via wifi. it may be stuck on static instead of dynamic, thats why it wont connect.

18-11-2013 8:14pm

Is this all 4g is capable of ? seriously ? is this going to be it for the next decade or more ?

And worst of all is there are not many on 4g, what happens when the service is hugely over subscribed like 3g ?

Still I'd take 17mb over 6. But the download limits are of no use, and the speed is of little use on a wireless device when 1mb will suffice for just web browsing.

Just one thing, are people using wireless N and not G on their laptops ? maybe the wireless G is a bottleneck, how about plugging directly into the laptop ?

hallo dare · 18-11-2013 8:19pm

[quote=how about plugging directly into the laptop ?[/quote]

Op said he's doing that.

Cork981 · 18-11-2013 9:41pm

24/13 now outdoors.

18-11-2013 10:02pm

24 down 13 up, I'd take that now !

Thing is are those speeds consistent ? Or is 23.5 mb then 9 then 4 then 12 ?

Meteor has no download limit until Feb or so ?

If they didn't introduce a limit I'd be all over it, my 200-300 GB a month wouldn't be long downloading !!!

Chris369 · 20-11-2013 7:29pm

Wait until 3 release 4g it will be near 100mbs download in most parts of dublin in December

20-11-2013 10:25pm

How do you know this ?

100 mb would be a dream but a waste with 15 odd gb limit.

I doubt I'll get 4g here for a long time anyway.

Mc Love · 21-11-2013 9:57pm

hallo dare wrote: »

Check your laptops ip if trying to connect via wifi. it may be stuck on static instead of dynamic, thats why it wont connect.

Is there a way I can change/check this?

bealtine · 23-11-2013 10:33pm

Deleted User wrote: »

That is very far off the 40 odd mb/s speeds we were promised, I wouldn't waste my money on this the upload is really crap ???

And you believed a flying horse? Look there's a flock of pigs:)

Mc Love · 28-11-2013 8:05am

Not currently in a 4g area (away from home) but I got 5Mbs download speed which is pretty good this morning on the Meteor 3g network

boardzz · 02-12-2013 11:18pm

I'm getting 22Mb/s with Vodafone 3G so those 4G speeds are not great.

wush06 · 02-12-2013 11:37pm

Not trolling people but also getting great speeds out of Vodafone on 3G.

davidsr20 · 03-12-2013 3:54pm

Iv Tryed 4g in Galway and got around 18mbps but 3G + in Galway is getting much the same.
Iv returned the 4g and 3G is got very good and pretty much the same speeds. Also 4g eats data very fast.

Cork981 · 05-12-2013 1:28pm

05-12-2013 1:33pm

Cork981 wrote: »

WOW !!!

Just shows the potential, though 3G also had the potential but it was very oversubscribed and the providers never upgraded to meet demand, as long as you can connect to the internet in Ireland then that's the requirement.

In actual "fact" because operators have 4G licences doesn't mean they have to provide 4G at all, never mind about the speed !

Give 4G another while and it will slow down too, though with the tiny limits I doubt it would persuade me to change. If I got 40 Mbs and 300GB or more a month download limit then I'd get rid of the crappy 6mb down and 300kbs up land line !

How consistent are those 40mb speeds in cork ? or is it 5 mb 10 mb 20 mb 40 mb 1 mb every few seconds ?

Cork981 · 06-12-2013 12:33pm

Deleted User wrote: »

WOW !!!

Just shows the potential, though 3G also had the potential but it was very oversubscribed and the providers never upgraded to meet demand, as long as you can connect to the internet in Ireland then that's the requirement.

In actual "fact" because operators have 4G licences doesn't mean they have to provide 4G at all, never mind about the speed !

Give 4G another while and it will slow down too, though with the tiny limits I doubt it would persuade me to change. If I got 40 Mbs and 300GB or more a month download limit then I'd get rid of the crappy 6mb down and 300kbs up land line !

How consistent are those 40mb speeds in cork ? or is it 5 mb 10 mb 20 mb 40 mb 1 mb every few seconds ?

The average is about 18/19 down and 7 up which isn't to bad.
I have seen it go as high as 60/18 at one point.
Indoor coverage isn't great and seems to be a lot better on the 4G dongle provide by meteor.

Either the phone prioritises a 5 bar edge connection over a weaker 4G signal or else the iphone isn't using the 800mhz band.

Zauka · 06-12-2013 12:34pm

4G is a life changing experience. Once you try it you never go back.

Zauka

06-12-2013 12:35pm

I'd still take 18 meg !

Pity they're going to cap the download limit in March !

I think operators don't realise the potential for very fast unlimited, I mean 40 + mb wireless on this island.

galait · 10-12-2013 3:20am

Getting 2 bars of 4g about 4 miles from nearest mast , looking at mounting antenna but need to find out what frequency is in use is it 800 or 1800 or is it both ?

McDook · 15-12-2013 7:36pm

Deleted User wrote: »

WOW !!!

Just shows the potential, though 3G also had the potential but it was very oversubscribed and the providers never upgraded to meet demand, as long as you can connect to the internet in Ireland then that's the requirement.

In actual "fact" because operators have 4G licences doesn't mean they have to provide 4G at all, never mind about the speed !

Give 4G another while and it will slow down too, though with the tiny limits I doubt it would persuade me to change. If I got 40 Mbs and 300GB or more a month download limit then I'd get rid of the crappy 6mb down and 300kbs up land line !

How consistent are those 40mb speeds in cork ? or is it 5 mb 10 mb 20 mb 40 mb 1 mb every few seconds ?

Me too

15-12-2013 8:38pm

I was in My sisters in Naas today and she has UPC 150 mb I think it is, but due to her crappy router I could "only" get 30 mb, which wasn't bad on the Ipad or Mobile.

So I fired up a download and I just couldn't believe the difference 30 mb can make from 6, I can only imagine what 150 mb is like !

Cork981 · 16-12-2013 3:35pm

16-12-2013 4:03pm

That's nice al right, it's a shame they're going to cap it next March to something stupid, I mean 3-10 mb is fine with a silly low 5-10 gb limit so what's the point of 50 odd mb ?

And when a lot more people get on 4g in the next few years it will be no better than 3g.

The E.U need to set a minimum of 50mb and unlimited data,

Unfortunately the way it works now is that the telecoms providers are not even obliged to provide any internet connectivity of any kind only voice. Never mind about speed. But we really need the E.U to take the whip out. 50 mb is a good starting point and reviewed every few years.

Non of the providers even have to offer 4g and it will have even less coverage than 3G.

RangeR · 16-12-2013 4:10pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I was in My sisters in Naas today and she has UPC 150 mb I think it is, but due to her crappy router I could "only" get 30 mb, which wasn't bad on the Ipad or Mobile.

So I fired up a download and I just couldn't believe the difference 30 mb can make from 6, I can only imagine what 150 mb is like !

30Mbps is about the most you can expect on ANY WIFI point. Unless you start going MIMO or bending the standards, as some boxes do.

16-12-2013 4:10pm

I'm getting this on 3 mobile now.

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Average though can be 2-7 mb. So why would I bother going to 4g ? of course three are not charging extra, and offer the same 15gb afaik, chances are I won't see 4g here anyway.

The only hope of me seeing anything over 6mb will be satellite, the prices have come down a hell of a lot in the last 10 years or so when I had a one way satellite service, I needed the land line as the uplink !

The prices have come down hugely for two way satellite and the speeds greatly improved, but the limits are a little low, though some providers offer unlimited off-peak data.

RangeR · 16-12-2013 4:17pm

Chris369 wrote: »

Wait until 3 release 4g it will be near 100mbs download in most parts of dublin in December

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you know this ?

100 mb would be a dream but a waste with 15 odd gb limit.

I doubt I'll get 4g here for a long time anyway.

Three don't have a 15GB limit. Nor do I think they ever had. What they do have is a 15GB fair usage where they state that they MAY limit your traffic. So far, they don't have this facility.

Deleted User wrote: »

24 down 13 up, I'd take that now !

Thing is are those speeds consistent ? Or is 23.5 mb then 9 then 4 then 12 ?

Meteor has no download limit until Feb or so ?

If they didn't introduce a limit I'd be all over it, my 200-300 GB a month wouldn't be long downloading !!!

Meteor said that it's unlimited until March. They never said that there would be a cap afterwords. Basically, they are trying to get a grip on how people use 4G. Yeah, they might put a cap on it. They might not.

Mobile internet is inconsistent by definition. Mobile operators [Meteor, eMobile, O2, Voda, Three, MVNO's] cannot guarantee consistent internet speeds no more than Met Eireann can promise no rain in winter. It's just not possible.

16-12-2013 4:25pm

RangeR wrote: »

Three don't have a 15GB limit. Nor do I think they ever had. What they do have is a 15GB fair usage where they state that they MAY limit your traffic. So far, they don't have this facility.

Quote from 3 site on broadband, they do have a non mobile phone plan of 60gb for 36 Euro.

Anyway here is what they say about data.

"What happens if I go over my data allowance?
Bill Pay
If you go over your data allowance, you’ll be charged an out-of-bundle rate. Call us on 1913 to see if a different data price plan might suit you better.
3 Pay
As a Prepay customer it makes sense to buy a broadband add on, which gives you a fixed amount of data for a fixed period at a fixed price. If you access the internet without an add on it can be pricey. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out which choice is better value!"

Not something I'd be taking a chance on, could end up with a whopping bill.

I know my all you can eat package on the mobile is limited to 15gb as in the terms and conditions. Again, I wouldn;t like to go over.

Mobile operators should be made give you the option to cut off data at the limit.

RangeR · 16-12-2013 4:41pm

Going waaaayy Off topic so this is the last I'll say on it. You referenced a 15GB limit. This, many believe, is the mobile AYCE limit on Three [as you reference again in the above post.] There is no 15GB limit on AYCA. It doesn't exist and it never did. There is no limit specified in the T's & C's. It mentioned that they MIGHT use measures to slow you down. You can still use it for as much as you want. In real terms they do not slow you down. They can't. They do not have that technology. At least they didn't a few months ago. But now... with O2... who knows?

The Mobile Broadband only [no voice or text, just data] packages do have a limit of 60GB, as you say. This is a different product and nothing to do with AYCE data on a voice tariff.

16-12-2013 4:50pm

Fair enough, I didn't know that. cheers.

16-12-2013 5:11pm

https://store.meteor.ie/mobile-broadband-devices/bill-pay/huawei-e5372-hotspot

Where does one see the unlimited data on meteor ?

18 month contract, if it's unlimited to 1st March that's a big risk to take that they could limit it to 10-20 gb which would be useless for me !

16-12-2013 5:18pm

Ah ok I saw it after I got rid of the banner asking if I wanted to chat to someone !

16-12-2013 5:25pm

This would lead anyone to believe that after the unlimited data offer expires they will cap data at 20 and 30 gb so I certainly wouldn't be signing up to an 18 month contract on that bases alone !

I'm just on the fringes of coverage from Carlow Town so it's unlikely I'd get it anyway, but if I was certain the data would not be capped after march then I'd definitely try it out !

But you can't replace a 6mb 300 GB service with 40 mb and 30gb cap !

RangeR · 16-12-2013 5:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

This would lead anyone to believe that after the unlimited data offer expires they will cap data at 20 and 30 gb so I certainly wouldn't be signing up to an 18 month contract on that bases alone !

I'm just on the fringes of coverage from Carlow Town so it's unlikely I'd get it anyway, but if I was certain the data would not be capped after march then I'd definitely try it out !

But you can't replace a 6mb 300 GB service with 40 mb and 30gb cap !

I agree. It's very badly worded and could be much more clear. I wouldn't be forking out any money without knowing what the limits were for the duration.

JCX BXC · 02-02-2014 1:30pm

If you have 3 bars of 4g on the three network, you are almost promised 20mbps+.
In parts of dublin people are getting a consistant 50mbps+

02-02-2014 1:48pm

It's mad to think that the areas of coverage on three are the places that already have access to high speed broadband and realistically you don't need 20-50 mbs on your mobile.

What would have been better is a prober 3-6 mb service that didn't fall to 0.2-0.5 mb. due to over subscribing the 3G service.

I think they would do much better if they started in the areas with poor broadband infrastructure because realistically, I wouldn't pay extra for 4g on my phone where I'd pay 20 a month extra to have an unlimited 4g with a real 30-50 mbs service that would replace my 6mb down and 300 kbs up crap DSL.

The three 4G coverage is absolutely shockingly bad, I'd be even embarrassed to display it it in public !!! If this is only the start then fair enough but even meteor 4g is a hell of a lot better.

JCX BXC · 13-02-2014 8:47pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's mad to think that the areas of coverage on three are the places that already have access to high speed broadband and realistically you don't need 20-50 mbs on your mobile.

What would have been better is a prober 3-6 mb service that didn't fall to 0.2-0.5 mb. due to over subscribing the 3G service.

I think they would do much better if they started in the areas with poor broadband infrastructure because realistically, I wouldn't pay extra for 4g on my phone where I'd pay 20 a month extra to have an unlimited 4g with a real 30-50 mbs service that would replace my 6mb down and 300 kbs up crap DSL.

The three 4G coverage is absolutely shockingly bad, I'd be even embarrassed to display it it in public !!! If this is only the start then fair enough but even meteor 4g is a hell of a lot better.

When meteor started it covered 2 towns and a city, that was way worse.
Why would you put 4g into the back-end of no where with 200people served by a certin mast instead of putting it in a city where 5000 people may be served by the mast.

13-02-2014 9:40pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

When meteor started it covered 2 towns and a city, that was way worse.
Why would you put 4g into the back-end of no where with 200people served by a certin mast instead of putting it in a city where 5000 people may be served by the mast.

yes, but the 5000 have option to much more providers, and in the bigger towns. It's not necessarily correct to assume that because the mast has the potential to reach 5000 people that people will use it if they have such choice !

For 200 people, they can be provided for by satellite broadband which has improved greatly in the last few years.

JCX BXC · 13-02-2014 10:38pm

Deleted User wrote: »

yes, but the 5000 have option to much more providers, and in the bigger towns. It's not necessarily correct to assume that because the mast has the potential to reach 5000 people that people will use it if they have such choice !

For 200 people, they can be provided for by satellite broadband which has improved greatly in the last few years.

But sure, say 100 of the 200 (Im being enthusiastic here) evail of the 4g service.
And 250 of the 5000 (Im being not at all generous here) avail of the 4g service
2.5x the revenue in the 5000 arrea. Also, I may move from 1 apartment to the other, so a 4g dongle would give me a fast broadband service on the move.

I live in west clare, trust me I know the lack of supply.

13-02-2014 10:50pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

But sure, say 100 of the 200 (Im being enthusiastic here) evail of the 4g service.
And 250 of the 5000 (Im being not at all generous here) avail of the 4g service
2.5x the revenue in the 5000 arrea. Also, I may move from 1 apartment to the other, so a 4g dongle would give me a fast broadband service on the move.

I live in west clare, trust me I know the lack of supply.

Well, I know I'd pay a lot more for a good quality fast 4G service where I won't apy a cent extra for a 4G service on my mobile. I simply have no need for 4G on a mobile device.

I think the mobile operators fail to realise the potential for revenue they could generate in offering 4G in places that can't get broadband or have crap broadband.

RangeR · 14-02-2014 10:54am

Deleted User wrote: »

I think the mobile operators fail to realise the potential for revenue they could generate in offering 4G in places that can't get broadband or have crap broadband.

And I think that a lot of the general public [mislead by the mobile networks and gov.ie, of course] fail to realise that 4G will fall on it's ass if too many users are on a cell. And the number of users doesn't need to be that much at all.

In fact, head of eircom [or someone very high up] yesterday on radio actually acknowledged that fact on Newstalk. The analogy was that if a Bus Eireann vehicle full of passengers was passing through a 4G area and all of those passengers decided to watch Netflix <insert other high bandwidth consumer>, would they all be able to? He said, eventually, no. Some would. Some would be jittery. Some would get no access at all as the cell would be over capacity.

This conversation revolved around a tiny amount of people. A bus holds how many? 40, 50?

14-02-2014 11:06am

RangeR wrote: »

And I think that a lot of the general public [mislead by the mobile networks and gov.ie, of course] fail to realise that 4G will fall on it's ass if too many users are on a cell. And the number of users doesn't need to be that much at all.

In fact, head of eircom [or someone very high up] yesterday on radio actually acknowledged that fact on Newstalk. The analogy was that if a Bus Eireann vehicle full of passengers was passing through a 4G area and all of those passengers decided to watch Netflix <insert other high bandwidth consumer>, would they all be able to? He said, eventually, no. Some would. Some would be jittery. Some would get no access at all as the cell would be over capacity.

This conversation revolved around a tiny amount of people. A bus holds how many? 40, 50?

Sure I agree, there was nothing wrong with the 3g apart from the neglect of the infrastructure and this is where the Government need to step in to protect consumers and make operators offer a minimum allowed but decent speed.

AHireland2k11 · 17-01-2015 7:38pm

anyone know if the meteor 4g map is accurate? I live in the back end of nowhere about 20 minutes outside Athlone on westmath offaly border and the map says I csn get excellent 4g coverage. But yet we cant even get eircom uncongested broadband and no vodafone 3g coverage.

JCX BXC · 17-01-2015 7:44pm

AHireland2k11 wrote: »

anyone know if the meteor 4g map is accurate? I live in the back end of nowhere about 20 minutes outside Athlone on westmath offaly border and the map says I csn get excellent 4g coverage. But yet we cant even get eircom uncongested broadband and no vodafone 3g coverage.

I found the meteor 4g map to be horribly inaccurate, I can pick up the meteor network in places just outside the coverage area in some cases, yet in the centre of some areas I may pick up no network.

Lack of effort is probably to blaim there.

Just in case you think uncongested broadband means anything, it doesn't. I can get three 4g in my house, yet my eircom broadband is not uncongested and struggles to get above 1.5mb.

bugfreebob · 18-01-2015 1:03am

AHireland2k11 wrote: »

anyone know if the meteor 4g map is accurate? I live in the back end of nowhere about 20 minutes outside Athlone on westmath offaly border and the map says I csn get excellent 4g coverage. But yet we cant even get eircom uncongested broadband and no vodafone 3g coverage.

I find the map generally accurate for outdoor coverage. However, as with all mobile networks, once you go inside well insulated buildings, you can sometimes still lose coverage even in an area where there is good outdoor coverage. In fairness, mobile operators can't be expected to enter every home to measure indoor performance. If you are looking for 4G for Broadband at a fixed location, then outdoor performance should be adequate. You can always use an external antenna.

I_HAVE_NO_NAME · 08-04-2015 12:54am

Hey Guys,
All these tests were done whilst my phone had 5 Bars of signal...
Conducted thses tests on the basis of trying to find out which network is the fatsest and most reliable. I will back vodafones 4G on one speedtest on my mothers phone where the speeds exceeded 60mbps download and 20mbps upload. Unfortunatly she guards the phone like a halk so I have no proof...
Anyway enjoy the results and sorry for uprooting a relitavly old thread!:):)

Meteor 4G

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