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    #92
    rawn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    Gin plus shock blanket wrote: »
    In regards to the fees, most colleges are more than aware at this point about what SUSI are like. On registration day if you can provide proof that you have submitted an application to SUSI and that it's being processed that should be OK.

    That's a huge relief. He was going to call the college to discuss a student loan or payment plan as we were pretty worried he wouldn't be allowed to register until he paid something!


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    #93
    Gin plus shock blanket
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Gin plus shock blanket


    rawn wrote: »
    That's a huge relief. He was going to call the college to discuss a student loan or payment plan as we were pretty worried he wouldn't be allowed to register until he paid something!

    He will need to pay the student services fee himself, that's usually around €160. If he can pay that as soon as possible and show the submitted application to SUSI that should keep his colleges fee office happy as it shows he is taking it seriously and trying and not just sticking his head in the sand and trying to dodge the fees. Most colleges don't start chasing fees until after Christmas. I know it was immediately prior to me getting the acceptance letter from SUSI that UCC emailed me inquiring about fees, so he has a bit of time yet. Don't panic!


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    #94
    Xscreamokidx
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Xscreamokidx


    Great. So apparently they lost my documents so I have to send them again, this is ridiculous


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    #95
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,806 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Arnold Tanzarian wrote: »
    Question for anyone that can help me :

    I have never applied for the grant before as my parents income combined is over the limit. I am now gone back to do a masters in college aged 23 and I am not getting any financial aid at all from my parents and living away from home. I applied for the grant about 3 weeks ago putting "estranged" into the parents section. If I am asked for documentation what will i do? I mean legally they are still my parents but I am barely home once a month and as i said i receive no financial aid from them. What will susi ask me for ?

    SUSI will ask you for documents from the HSE or Gardai to prove you are estranged

    When did you do your undergrad? I presume you are aware that you will not be able to change your status from dependent student to independent mature student unless there is a three year gap.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #96
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,806 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Xscreamokidx wrote: »
    Great. So apparently they lost my documents so I have to send them again, this is ridiculous

    Heres their complaints process

    Use it

    http://www.susi.ie/QuickLinks/Complaints.aspx

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #97
    oldyouth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    Dealing with SUSI today regarding my sons application. An issue has arisen over a document I sent them last year and got the following response


    I understand that you have sent in documentation relating to this before for last years application.

    However I can advise that if you do not have this documentation anymore, we can send out copies to you if you so request. You could then send them back to us.........................


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    #98
    rawn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    oldyouth wrote: »
    Dealing with SUSI today regarding my sons application. An issue has arisen over a document I sent them last year and got the following response


    I understand that you have sent in documentation relating to this before for last years application.

    However I can advise that if you do not have this documentation anymore, we can send out copies to you if you so request. You could then send them back to us.........................

    You're joking...


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    #99
    bizzyb
    Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭bizzyb


    oldyouth wrote: »
    Dealing with SUSI today regarding my sons application. An issue has arisen over a document I sent them last year and got the following response


    I understand that you have sent in documentation relating to this before for last years application.

    However I can advise that if you do not have this documentation anymore, we can send out copies to you if you so request. You could then send them back to us.........................

    Well that really sums up how incompetent these idiots are!!


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    #100
    rawn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    My OH finally got his letter in the post saying his application was cancelled, yet he still couldn't open a new application and when he eventually got through to them on the phone the guy hadn't a clue what he was talking about, kept telling him to enter his name all in caps and then uppercase initials, then told him he was in the wrong section (grantsonline) and slowly talked him through the process of clicking "apply online" on the SUSI website which of course brings him right back to grantsonline! The guy then eventually figures out that even though his application is cancelled, his PPS number is still on the system and he'll have to wait til Monday for them to take it off. Clocks a-ticking like...


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    #101
    Chance The Fapper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Chance The Fapper


    Does anyone know how you appeal a refusal?


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    #102
    oldyouth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    rawn wrote: »
    You're joking...

    Copied and pasted from their e-mail to me, just deleted the personal details. I'm thinking of asking for it by e-mail and then just hitting the return button


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    #103
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,806 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Chance The Fapper wrote: »
    Does anyone know how you appeal a refusal?
    http://www.susi.ie/QuickLinks/Appealing-your-grant-decision.aspx

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #104
    PictureFrame
    Registered Users Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭PictureFrame


    oldyouth wrote: »
    Dealing with SUSI today regarding my sons application. An issue has arisen over a document I sent them last year and got the following response


    I understand that you have sent in documentation relating to this before for last years application.

    However I can advise that if you do not have this documentation anymore, we can send out copies to you if you so request. You could then send them back to us.........................

    I'm actually almost dying laughing oh my CHRIST. I can't even deal with how stupid that is


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    #105
    oldyouth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    PictureFrame wrote: »
    I'm actually almost dying laughing oh my CHRIST. I can't even deal with how stupid that is

    I laughed when I 1st read it, then realised that I am in for a very long journey if that is an example of what I have to deal with going forward


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    #106
    Gin plus shock blanket
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Gin plus shock blanket


    oldyouth wrote: »
    I laughed when I 1st read it, then realised that I am in for a very long journey if that is an example of what I have to deal with going forward

    Based on what I and some other on my course that I spoke to about this experienced last year, if all goes well and there re no issues with documentation etc you re looking at four months minimum. However in the 2012/2013 academic year I know of someone who applies in June 2012 and was still waiting on them in May 2013. It's just the luck of the draw really, the draw being will you get someone experienced from the old local authority system handling your case or will you get someone new that they have just hired in the last few months and is uncertain and overwhelmed.
    What I would suggest, is to keep in constant contact with the fees office in your college to let them know the status of your application. Also SUSI start coming to various colleges from round the middle of September to run application clinics. If you are still experiencing difficulty with them by the time they come to your college then I would suggest going to them. I am aware of a few people who were having issues and after speaking to someone at one of these sessions the situation was resolved quite quickly after so they are well worth attending.


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    #107
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,806 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    In fairness 2012/2013 was the first time for SUSI and they did vastly improve in 2013/2014.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #108
    Gin plus shock blanket
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Gin plus shock blanket


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    In fairness 2012/2013 was the first time for SUSI and they did vastly improve in 2013/2014.

    They did improve but I'm not so sure about vastly being honest. They went from absolutely incompetent to barely functional. Sure it's a step forward but it still isn't good enough.


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    #109
    GingerNut93
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭GingerNut93


    I was told to get in contact with SUSI if I hadn't heard anything about my application by the end of last week. When I did get in contact they told me to wait it out longer that my application is at the top of the list! I'm starting to become really annoyed! will I even know if I'm getting a grant before I start college? I need to know so I can get the money from somewhere to pay for it otherwise! I feel sorry for the people who applied late it I'm still waiting and I applied the day it opened!


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    #110
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,806 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    GingerNut93 wrote: »
    will I even know if I'm getting a grant before I start college?

    Possibly not. You need to be prepared for that. Many students may not hear the outcome of their grant application until after they begin college.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #111
    GingerNut93
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭GingerNut93


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Possibly not. You need to be prepared for that. Many students may not hear the outcome of their grant application until after they begin college.

    That's ridiculous! I'm assuming if I have to pay the fees and do end up gettiga grant SUSI reimburse me?


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    #112
    bizzyb
    Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭bizzyb


    GingerNut93 wrote: »
    I was told to get in contact with SUSI if I hadn't heard anything about my application by the end of last week. When I did get in contact they told me to wait it out longer that my application is at the top of the list! I'm starting to become really annoyed! will I even know if I'm getting a grant before I start college? I need to know so I can get the money from somewhere to pay for it otherwise! I feel sorry for the people who applied late it I'm still waiting and I applied the day it opened!

    The way it's going we will be ALL starting with no grant in place, but I'm sure the colleges will be aware of what's going on and be willing to wait.


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    #113
    GingerNut93
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭GingerNut93


    bizzyb wrote: »
    The way it's going we will be ALL starting with no grant in place, but I'm sure the colleges will be aware of what's going on and be willing to wait.

    But even at that what if we don't get a grant we still have to get the money from somewhere and it will be such short notice!


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    #114
    Chance The Fapper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Chance The Fapper


    If you got refused, but didn't include the fact that you're renting in Dublin, do you have a better chance of appealing if you include the fact that you're now renting?


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    #115
    GingerNut93
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭GingerNut93


    Chance The Fapper wrote: »
    If you got refused, but didn't include the fact that you're renting in Dublin, do you have a better chance of appealing if you include the fact that you're now renting?

    appeal your application under change of circumstances


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    #116
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,806 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    GingerNut93 wrote: »
    That's ridiculous! I'm assuming if I have to pay the fees and do end up gettiga grant SUSI reimburse me?

    Yes. But the thing is. Dont panic. Colleges are aware of this and will give some leeway in fee payments.

    The thing is - There is a possibility you may not hear til October or November. I'm just saying to prepare for that.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #117
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,806 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Chance The Fapper wrote: »
    If you got refused, but didn't include the fact that you're renting in Dublin, do you have a better chance of appealing if you include the fact that you're now renting?

    Why would that make a difference in your appeal?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #118
    GingerNut93
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭GingerNut93


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Yes. But the thing is. Dont panic. Colleges are aware of this and will give some leeway in fee payments.

    SUSI is a joke in fairness. I don't expect anything more from them lol thanks for you help


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    #119
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,806 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    GingerNut93 wrote: »
    SUSI is a joke in fairness. I don't expect anything more from them lol thanks for you help

    The system isnt great but A) its better than it was 2 years ago and B) in some ways SUSI has no choice - timelines are dictated by the leaving cert, cao and colleges.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #120
    Chance The Fapper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Chance The Fapper


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Why would that make a difference in your appeal?

    Because you have an outlay of €400 more a month?


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    #121
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,806 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Chance The Fapper wrote: »
    Because you have an outlay of €400 more a month?

    The only thing SUSI measure is income. Your costs or outgoings are irrelevant to SUSI.

    So in all honesty it wont make a difference if you mention this.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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