USA Vs Everyone else

tonyheaney · 05-04-2011 9:07am #1

I know its nothing new but have the american really run out of ideas that they have to steal, borrow and take every idea everyone else has had? do they really lack that much imagination??

only recently they have copied :

the inbetweeners,
skins,
being human,
office,
Nearly Dr who
shameless
Life on mars what where they thinking?

what next eastenders? aka southsiders? coronation street aka coronation street boulevard?

I know they have the extra episodes there is 24 ours some times 12 but still where has the originality gone??

humanji · 05-04-2011 9:59am

They've copied loads of shows before. Most of them fail miserably. There's two versions of Fawlty Towers, I think. And there's a shocking pilot for Red Dwarf. Oh, and there's the curios case of Coupling, which they made a US version even though it was pretty much a UK version of Friends.

blodvyn · 05-04-2011 11:24am

What would you prefer instead of rehashing other material they simply put nothing out? I bet you'd be the very person that would complain of there being a void in usa programming if nothing was happening!

With all the tripe that gets thrown out, they do in fact produce some very very good viewing, take the good with the bad.

Some people just love to moan

krudler · 05-04-2011 1:05pm

They're still leagues ahead in terms of tv production with the stuff HBO and AMC put out

ixoy · 05-04-2011 4:06pm

tonyheaney wrote: »

office,

A very good adaptation though (or at least it was for the first four seasons).

Nearly Dr who

Nearly Dr Who? There was no nearly here. Are you referring to the '96 TV movie which was a co-production anyway? There's no US version.

The UK have also copied US shows it must be pointed out.

Anyway, the strongest dramas are all coming from the US these days.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 05-04-2011 4:40pm

I don't really have a problem with them remaking stuff but I don't understand why they can't just do like our networks and buy and show the originals?

Given the amount of online tv legal and illegal these days most people on both sides of the Atlantic will have seen the originals anyway so doing remakes is going to lead to comparisons and usually people prefer the originals.

Richard Dower · 05-04-2011 5:05pm

^ the US version of Being Human is fantastic!!...last nights ep. had a huge finale shocker!!!

mike65 · 05-04-2011 5:13pm

Let us not forget Life on Mars.

thirtythirty · 05-04-2011 5:15pm

tonyheaney wrote: »

I know its nothing new but have the american really run out of ideas that they have to steal, borrow and take every idea everyone else has had? do they really lack that much imagination??

only recently they have copied :

the inbetweeners,
skins,
being human,
office,
Nearly Dr who
shameless

what next eastenders? aka southsiders? coronation street aka coronation street boulevard?

I know they have the extra episodes there is 24 ours some times 12 but still where has the originality gone??

Yeh, but then you have the likes of HBO which have made:

Band of Brothers
Sopranos
The Wire
Sex and the City
Oz
Boardwalk Empire
How to make it in America

....to mention but a few. None of them are remotely rivaled by anything else in the world.

Gulliver · 05-04-2011 5:35pm

spottyelephant wrote: »

Yeh, but then you have the likes of HBO which have made:

Band of Brothers
Sopranos
The Wire
Sex and the City
Oz
Boardwalk Empire
How to make it in America

....to mention but a few. None of them are remotely rivaled by anything else in the world.

Sure Band of Brothers is just Soldier, Soldier in WWII and Oz is Prisoner: Cell Block H with better looking prisoners!! :pac:

Seriously though, don't forget Six Feet Under

mike65 · 05-04-2011 5:59pm

Sex and the City? No one should regard that as top notch telly.

tonyheaney · 05-04-2011 8:39pm

blodvyn wrote: »

What would you prefer instead of rehashing other material they simply put nothing out? I bet you'd be the very person that would complain of there being a void in usa programming if nothing was happening!

With all the tripe that gets thrown out, they do in fact produce some very very good viewing, take the good with the bad.

Some people just love to moan

actually i would prefer if they came up with something original instead of a rehash,

i would prefer if they did have constant brakes after brakes, just show the season see it it out and get on with it FFS,

and this formum is for moaners and bitches and i have no prob being the moner mate :P

tonyheaney · 05-04-2011 8:43pm

ixoy wrote: »

A very good adaptation though (or at least it was for the first four seasons).

Nearly Dr Who? There was no nearly here. Are you referring to the '96 TV movie which was a co-production anyway? There's no US version.

The UK have also copied US shows it must be pointed out.

Anyway, the strongest dramas are all coming from the US these days.

the '96 movie was in fact a back door poilt and if it had worked (and yhank god it didnt) it would have continued usa style

as for torchwood great show dont get me wrong but captain jack was used in doctor who to get him known so that one day RTD could have his own show no strings attach but i did like it.

tonyheaney · 05-04-2011 8:59pm

spottyelephant wrote: »

Yeh, but then you have the likes of HBO which have made:

Band of Brothers
Sopranos
The Wire
Sex and the City
Oz
Boardwalk Empire
How to make it in America

....to mention but a few. None of them are remotely rivaled by anything else in the world.

you know i have not watched any of those since the canceled Deadwood love the show, now i try to wait till they finish a season to watch coz im never sure if they will cancel them

AND THATS ANOTHER THING I BLOODY HATE

cancelling shows left right and flufin center FFS!!!!!

Stargate Atlantis bad ending
Stargate Universe bet it will be a bad ending
Enterprise WORST ENDING EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
deadwood... left floating,
The Tick (FOX)
Firefly (FOX)
Scrubs
Jericho
The Cape - The show was officially cancelled on March 2, 2011 due to low ratings
Eli Stone

Just to name a few

ArmaniJeanss · 05-04-2011 11:23pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I don't really have a problem with them remaking stuff but I don't understand why they can't just do like our networks and buy and show the originals?

Given the amount of online tv legal and illegal these days most people on both sides of the Atlantic will have seen the originals anyway so doing remakes is going to lead to comparisons and usually people prefer the originals.

Its quite often the lack of episodes (numerically) in the original version, like The Office is only 14 episodes, Fawlty Towers only 12.

Whereas in America they expect a season of a halfhour sitcom to be about 24 episodes. Further they expect at least 100 episodes to be made in total (i.e. minimum 4 seasons) in order to reach the mark at which a program can go onto syndication channels (something like our UK Gold stations) where episodes are shown every day for a few months, then back to the start and go again.

So basically the way the orginals are made in the UK (2 or 3 series of 6) just doesn't fit the US broadcasting structures.

tonyheaney · 05-04-2011 11:54pm

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Its quite often the lack of episodes (numerically) in the original version, like The Office is only 14 episodes, Fawlty Towers only 12.

Whereas in America they expect a season of a halfhour sitcom to be about 24 episodes. Further they expect at least 100 episodes to be made in total (i.e. minimum 4 seasons) in order to reach the mark at which a program can go onto syndication channels (something like our UK Gold stations) where episodes are shown every day for a few months, then back to the start and go again.

So basically the way the orginals are made in the UK (2 or 3 series of 6) just doesn't fit the US broadcasting structures.

true but you have to admit by keeping them this size (UK size that is and not that im agreeing necessarily) it makes you enjoy them more, miss them even more and makes for great story lines and cuts the bull shi story lines out keepin to the main story at hand

Rabble Rabble · 06-04-2011 12:42am

tonyheaney wrote: »

you know i have not watched any of those since the canceled Deadwood love the show, now i try to wait till they finish a season to watch coz im never sure if they will cancel them

AND THATS ANOTHER THING I BLOODY HATE

cancelling shows left right and flufin center FFS!!!!!

Stargate Atlantis bad ending
Stargate Universe bet it will be a bad ending
Enterprise WORST ENDING EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
deadwood... left floating,
The Tick (FOX)
Firefly (FOX)
Scrubs
Jericho
The Cape - The show was officially cancelled on March 2, 2011 due to low ratings
Eli Stone

Just to name a few

you watch a lot of American TV

tonyheaney · 06-04-2011 1:25am

@Rabble Rabble

no not really i just goggled canceled shows but i have watched a few of them and im giving up now coz when i invest my evening time they get cancelled

muffino · 07-04-2011 7:35pm

ixoy wrote: »

A very good adaptation though (or at least it was for the first four seasons).
.

couldnt agree more, i love The Office and The US Office, but after the 1st four seasons it went downhill!

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