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slagging: a mechanism of an emotionally repressive society

  • 28-08-2012 12:35pm
    #1
    an langer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭


    "Slagging: often this is disguised as 'humour', 'it's only a bit of craic' etc... It has evolved, in what is an emotionally repressive society, as a way of ensuring people don't take on ‘airs and graces’ i.e. don’t get too confident or boastful but know their place in society and remain there."

    Discuss!

    :-D


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  • #2
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    banter is a way of keeping people in check i suppose


  • #3
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,225 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Langer.


  • #4
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    an langer wrote: »
    "Slagging: often this is disguised as 'humour', 'it's only a bit of craic' etc... It has evolved, in what is an emotionally repressive society, as a way of ensuring people don't take on ‘airs and graces’ i.e. don’t get too confident or boastful but know their place in society and remain there."

    I was slagged in school.

    :-D

    .


  • #5
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I only slag people I'm friends with.

    Everything else is truth-bombs.


  • #6
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Where do you draw the line between slagging and bullying?


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  • #7
    Tonyandthewhale
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Tonyandthewhale


    Are you quoting yourself OP? Because that's well slag worthy.


  • #8
    mathie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,102 ✭✭✭mathie


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    banter is a way of keeping people in check i suppose

    Shut your cakehole.


  • #9
    an langer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭an langer


    sorry to hear that anncoates ;)


  • #10
    mathie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,102 ✭✭✭mathie


    old hippy wrote: »
    Where do you draw the line between slagging and bullying?

    Back to woodstock hippy.


  • #11
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Slagging only hurts when it's true! :)


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  • #12
    kfallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Slagging is banter and we all know what banter is......sugarcoated bullying :pac:


  • #13
    Bad Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    Slagging only hurts if you're a pussy. :pac:


  • #14
    Sea Sharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    old hippy wrote: »
    Where do you draw the line between slagging and bullying?

    Depends on how the person takes it. It's usually clear by their facial expression whether they see it as banter or bullying.


  • #15
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    mathie wrote: »
    Back to woodstock hippy.

    And?


  • #16
    paddyandy
    Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Slagging is Abuse and it is accepted here in Ireland .Anger and jealousy have many disguises and slaggin' is one of them but it does not exist everywhere and would'nt be allowed in other places .I've worked in places where there was none at all .And it should'nt exist . Tolerance is a disease here .
    It is difficult to see the line between banter and trying to humiliate sometimes .


  • #17
    kfallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    paddyandy wrote: »
    Slagging is Abuse and it is accepted here in Ireland .Anger and jealousy have many disguises and slaggin' is one of them but it does not exist everywhere and would'nt be allowed in other places .I've worked in places where there was none at all .And it should'nt exist . Tolerance is a disease here .

    That must have been one boring kip to work in :pac:


  • #18
    --Kaiser--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Slagging is way of testing if someone has a sense of humour, doesn't take themselves too seriously. It's a way of bonding. You know you've gotten in with a group of people when they start slagging you. It's not just an Irish thing either, I've seen it in other cultures (though some really don't appreciate it), but we appear to be particularly good at it.

    People who don't like slagging are usually emotionally insecure, humourless, whingey twats


  • #19
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Of course it is but sure we all knew that :p
    I hate that word banter and those idiots that say 'the bants' wrecks me head!
    Slagging is fine between friends but with strangers it's a bit weird and off-putting.


  • #20
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    This is a quite valid discussion, it's a pity it's on AH where any serious conversation will be shot down by the same, tired crowd, awash with cynisicm and a wilful failure to comprehend consequences of something like bullying...


  • #21
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    old hippy wrote: »
    the same, tired crowd, awash with cynisicm and a wilful failure to comprehend consequences of something like bullying...
    isn't that slagging right there?


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  • #22
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Slagging is way of testing if someone has a sense of humour, doesn't take themselves too seriously. It's a way of bonding. You know you've gotten in with a group of people when they start slagging you. It's not just an Irish thing either, I've seen it in other cultures (though some really don't appreciate it), but we appear to be particularly good at it.

    People who don't like slagging are usually emotionally insecure, humourless, whingey twats

    And perhaps after years of relentless slagging/pyschological bullying, how else would they appear to you?


  • #23
    Bad Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    old hippy wrote: »
    This is a quite valid discussion, it's a pity it's on AH where any serious conversation will be shot down by the same, tired crowd, awash with cynisicm and a wilful failure to comprehend consequences of something like bullying...

    As someone who was briefly bullied as a small child, I can tell the difference!

    Banter/slagging is usually when everyone does it to everyone else, clearly in jest and not just to one person all the time with some poisonous words thrown in for good measure.

    Seriously, people need this explained to them?


  • #24
    Quorum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Quorum


    Is this yet another inferiority complex, run down Ireland thread? In a covert kinda way?


  • #25
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    paddyandy wrote: »
    Slagging is Abuse and it is accepted here in Ireland .Anger and jealousy have many disguises and slaggin' is one of them but it does not exist everywhere and would'nt be allowed in other places .I've worked in places where there was none at all .And it should'nt exist . Tolerance is a disease here .
    It is difficult to see the line between banter and trying to humiliate sometimes .

    Tell us about the time you wore an onion on your belt and went to market to sell a cow but came back with magic beans.


  • #26
    kfallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    Of course it is but sure we all knew that :p
    I hate that word banter and those idiots that say 'the bants' wrecks me head!
    Slagging is fine between friends but with strangers it's a bit weird and off-putting.

    :confused: Never heard that in me life tbh!


  • #27
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    kfallon wrote: »
    :confused: Never heard that in me life tbh!

    Tis a young person thing :p Look on any of the off topic threads on C&H and you'll see it numerous times. Nothing against C&H, I've just seen it there.


  • #28
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    an langer wrote: »
    A really cool thing to combat slagging that's from a 'bad place' (I don't mean harmless fun) is an nlp technique called the swish pattern. Just google it. I've done it several times now and the result is, you hear the slagging, but don't emotionally react to it. It's hard to explain, it's the same effect as someone saying, 'hello, how are you?', you don't react to it emotionally. Derren Brown type stuff.
    However I have noticed it makes people uncomfortable sometimes when they say something intentionally hurtful but you don't react to it like you're meant to. That I find really funny, in fact it's the ultimate revenge. No reaction :-)

    I just put you on ignore. If you reply to this I won't see it.


    Am I doing it right?


  • #29
    Bipolar Joe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    There is a difference between slagging and bullying. Bullying is meant to hurt people, slagging is meant to make people laugh. It can be difficult to tell the two apart.

    I'll slag and be slagged, but there are some people I won't do it to. A really good friend of mine can't tell the difference. It's like bonding. You just have to be careful who you do it with.


  • #30
    Roger Sterling
    Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Roger Sterling


    an langer wrote: »
    "Slagging: often this is disguised as 'humour', 'it's only a bit of craic' etc... It has evolved, in what is an emotionally repressive society, as a way of ensuring people don't take on ‘airs and graces’ i.e. don’t get too confident or boastful but know their place in society and remain there."

    Discuss!

    :-D

    Are you trying to get us to do some college or school assignment for you or something?


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  • #31
    Feisar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I think as long as someone is not socially clueless or completely hyper sensitive they'd know the difference.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #32
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Slagging between friends or just random people in the street?

    You might have a problem if you can't distinguish between friendly banter and outright bullying.


  • #33
    mauzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭mauzo


    Have to say I'm awful for it. I slag everyone, whether I've just met them or I know them well.

    I never take offense to anything, and need to realise that others aren't always the same.

    Never got into trouble for it, don't think I ever go too far but I find the line with people and I play off it.

    I say the first thing that comes into my head, I say whatever I think is funny. Never any malice behind it or anything. I hope I've never offended anyone.

    I hate people who slag people but can't take it themselves.


  • #34
    kfallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    mauzo wrote: »
    Have to say I'm awful for it. I slag everyone, whether I've just met them or I know them well.

    I never take offense to anything, and need to realise that others aren't always the same.

    Never got into trouble for it, don't think I ever go too far but I find the line with people and I play off it.

    I say the first thing that comes into my head, I say whatever I think is funny. Never any malice behind it or anything. I hope I've never offended anyone.

    I hate people who slag people but can't take it themselves.

    Well I didn't like to say it at the time.......

    :pac:


  • #35
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    mauzo wrote: »
    I hate people who slag people but can't take it themselves.

    I remember when I got into a fight with a guy over something like this:

    Him: "Hey Dug, your mama is fine!!"
    Me: "Not as fine as yours!"
    Him: "THE FÙCK DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY MOTHER!?!"


  • #36
    kfallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    I remember when I got into a fight with a guy over something like this:

    Him: "Hey Dug, your mama is fine!!"
    Me: "Not as fine as yours!"
    Him: "THE FÙCK DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY MOTHER!?!"

    Maybe he was just hard of hearing?? :p


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  • #37
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    "Banter" is fine. But bullying does have consequences and not all people have tough skin.


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