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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Wicknight wrote: »
    No one is attacking Christianity. What you are doing is attacking evolution and those who accept it under the guise of wishing to save us and bring us closer to God, something wholly contradicted by the combative and dishonest way to discuss this topic and take pleasure in doing so.

    No Christian would do that. You are not a Christian. You are a troll.
    You're just a bad loser!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GO_Bear


    liamw wrote: »
    k9zi6.jpg

    HAHAHAHAA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    J C wrote: »
    You're just a bad loser!!!!

    600full-monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-screenshot.jpg


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ^^^ Deserves more than one thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    J C wrote: »
    You're just a bad loser!!!!

    The only one here who thinks this is about winning or losing is you, cause you are a troll

    To a genuine Christian Creationist the debate would be about showing non-believers the correct interpretation of the Bible in order so that they can have a more close connection with Jesus. Something you care little about.

    To someone who accepts the truth of evolution (Christian or otherwise) the debate is about presenting that truth as clear as possible and defending the principles of science that lead to its discovery from those who would manipulate science for their own ideology.

    To a troll like yourself the debate is about bickering with people on the internet and taking pleasure in "winning" arguments with them and calling them losers, a wholly unChristian way to carry on.

    You are not a Christian. I doubt you are a Creationist. You are simply a rather silly troll.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Originally Posted by J C
    You're just a bad loser!!!!
    600full-monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-screenshot.jpg
    ... so are you saying that I have metaphorically 'cut Evolutionism down to size'???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭smokingman


    J C wrote: »
    ... so are you saying that I have metaphorically 'cut Evolutionism down to size'???

    I take it you've not seen the film then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Wicknight wrote: »
    The only one here who thinks this is about winning or losing is you, cause you are a troll

    To a genuine Christian Creationist the debate would be about showing non-believers the correct interpretation of the Bible in order so that they can have a more close connection with Jesus. Something you care little about.

    To someone who accepts the truth of evolution (Christian or otherwise) the debate is about presenting that truth as clear as possible and defending the principles of science that lead to its discovery from those who would manipulate science for their own ideology.

    To a troll like yourself the debate is about bickering with people on the internet and taking pleasure in "winning" arguments with them and calling them losers, a wholly unChristian way to carry on.

    You are not a Christian. I doubt you are a Creationist. You are simply a rather silly troll.
    Just because I have proven that Evolution is a load of baloney only makes make me a short-term winner ...
    ... but the fact that I am Saved makes me an eternal winner.

    You too can be a short-term and eternal winner ... and the truth can set you free.

    ... all you need to do is to open your mind ... before you close it!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    J C wrote: »
    Just because I have proven that Evolution is a load of baloney only makes make me a short-term winner ...
    ... but the fact that I am Saved makes me an eternal winner.

    You too can be a short-term and eternal winner ... and the truth can set you free.

    ... all you need to do is to open your mind ... before you close it!!!

    There's the use of that word again :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,324 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    J C wrote: »
    ... so are you saying that I have metaphorically 'cut Evolutionism down to size'???

    Swing and a miss.

    Come on JC and troll of your calibre should have been able to come up with something better than that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    King Mob wrote: »
    Swing and a miss.

    Come on JC and troll of your calibre should have been able to come up with something better than that.
    J C wrote: »
    only makes make me a short-term winner ...
    ... but the fact that I am Saved makes me an eternal winner.

    You too can be a short-term and eternal winner ... and the truth can set you free.

    ... all you need to do is to open your mind ... before you close it!!!

    I must admit that is freakishly trollish alright...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    King Mob wrote: »
    Swing and a miss.

    Come on JC and troll of your calibre should have been able to come up with something better than that.

    Saw that coming, but it was too good an opportunity to pass up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    It looks like being a Troll is an occupational hazard ... for all Evolutionists!!!

    Creationists have both logic and truth on their side ... and they therefore don't need to engage in trollish behaviour!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,324 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    J C wrote: »
    It looks like being a Troll is an occupational hazard ... for all Evolutionists!!!

    Creationists have both logic and truth on their side ... and they therefore don't need to engage in trollish behaviour!!!
    Which as wicknight pointed out they don't, their ignorance aside.

    You however do and are continuing to display trolling behaviour.

    Stop pretending JC no one is buying it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    King Mob wrote: »
    Which as wicknight pointed out they don't, their ignorance aside.

    You however do and are continuing to display trolling behaviour.

    Stop pretending JC no one is buying it.
    Evolutionism is just one big Troll itself!!!

    ... and Creationism is based on logic science and maths.

    How can ye guys look in the mirror each morning ... and continue to believe that you are just a cosmological accident????


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    King Mob wrote: »
    Of course it's impossible, that's why we do it.
    Is that a Freudian Slip?
    I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!

    Are you a magician or an illusionist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    J C wrote: »
    Is that a Freudian Slip?
    I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!

    Haha, vengance is swift :cool: Now JC turns the tables and concentrates on
    other peoples signatures after we've already explained to him why his own
    signature is grossly contradictory &, frankly, it is the perfect illustration of JC,
    he takes snippets of quotations that actually (when in context) refute him
    completely but instead deceives people through mis-information.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    J C wrote: »
    Just because I have proven that Evolution is a load of baloney only makes make me a short-term winner ...
    ... but the fact that I am Saved makes me an eternal winner.

    A Christian wouldn't view this discussion in terms of "winning".

    Neither would an atheist trying to defend science standards, for that matter.

    A troll on the other hand, who's sole preoccupation is arguing with people on the Internet and getting a kick out of annoying them, well they would.

    I wonder which one you are :rolleyes:
    J C wrote: »
    It looks like being a Troll is an occupational hazard ... for all Evolutionists!!!

    Spoken like a true Internet troll. A Christian would never say something like that. They would be interested in their relationship with God, and bringing others closer to God. Not "winning" internet arguments.

    The Bible says a Christian should be humble. You are anything but, you embrace showing off and gloat at taking pleasure in "winning" arguments. All very un-Christian.

    Given thought that being humble is a core pillar of Christianity it is impossible to conclude you are just a bad Christian. All Christians would be familiar with this required behavior. It is implausible to conclude you are simply an ignorant Christian.

    You are in fact a troll, someone pretending to be Christian to give you an excuse to engage in arguments over Creationism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    J C wrote: »
    ... and Creationism is based on logic science and maths.

    The way you use maths I wouldn't be surprised if you used my old signature
    on linear algebra to refute Darwinian communism :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Wicknight wrote: »
    A Christian wouldn't view this discussion in terms of "winning".

    Neither would an atheist trying to defend science standards, for that matter.

    A troll on the other hand, who's sole preoccupation is arguing with people on the Internet and getting a kick out of annoying them, well they would.

    I wonder which one you are :rolleyes:



    Spoken like a true Internet troll. A Christian would never say something like that. They would be interested in their relationship with God, and bringing others closer to God. Not "winning" internet arguments.

    The Bible says a Christian should be humble. You are anything but, you embrace showing off and gloat at taking pleasure in "winning" arguments. All very un-Christian.

    Given thought that being humble is a core pillar of Christianity it is impossible to conclude you are just a bad Christian. All Christians would be familiar with this required behavior. It is implausible to conclude you are simply an ignorant Christian.

    You are in fact a troll, someone pretending to be Christian to give you an excuse to engage in arguments over Creationism.
    Humility is shown by Chrisitians to our almight God ... but there is no merit in humilty towards our fellow men on their way to eternal perdition ... we are commanded to point out their error confidently and lovingly ... and show them how to attain Salvation!!!

    Jesus Christ may have humbled Himself to accept death in order to Save us ... but He didn't behave humbly towards the Money Changers in The Temple ... or indeed to the Pharisees who denied His power to forgive sin and Save Humanity!!!!!

    John 2:13-16 (New International Version, ©2010)
    13 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!”

    John 8:42-47 (New International Version, ©2010)
    Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,324 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    J C wrote: »
    Evolutionism is just one big Troll itself!!!

    ... and Creationism is based on logic science and maths.

    How can ye guys look in the mirror each morning ... and continue to believe that you are just a cosmological accident????
    Evolutionism goes on the internet and provokes arguments for the sake of it?

    Come one JC, don't play dumb. You know exactly what a troll is because you are one.
    J C wrote: »
    Is that a Freudian Slip?
    I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!

    Are you a magician or an illusionist?
    See you're getting desperate to provoke a reaction now.

    It's a quote form a great magician FYI.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    King Mob wrote: »
    It's a quote form a great magician FYI.
    Was he an evolutionist as well???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,324 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    J C wrote: »
    Was he an evolutionist as well???
    Are you that desperate now?
    This is just plain sad, JC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭smokingman


    It's a well know fact that only trolls use multiple exclamation or question marks....JC, seriously, let me help you, let me in!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    smokingman wrote: »
    It's a well know fact that only trolls use multiple exclamation or question marks....JC, seriously, let me help you, let me in!
    Its a well known fact that Evolutionists describe Creationists as Trolls ... Liars ... Morons ... Insane ... and any other form of ad hominem abuse that they can think of.
    ... and you have the audacity to complain about me using exclamation marks and question marks and you accuse me of trolling!
    ... talk about 'sweating the small stuff'!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭smokingman


    J C wrote: »
    ... talk about 'sweating the small stuff'!!!

    You don't have to sweat anymore if you just let me in, let me help you, let me shine the light of release on your thoughts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    I think it's time you came back to the dark side JC, join us:



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    I think it's time you came back to the dark side JC, join us:
    Why do you call Evolutionism 'the dark side'???

    John 8:12 (New International Version, ©2010)

    12 When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭smokingman


    J C wrote: »
    Why do you call Evolutionism 'the dark side'???

    Because you're not blinded my friend....you're not blinded.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    smokingman wrote: »
    Because you're not blinded my friend....you're not blinded.
    Why should I return to the 'dark side' when I now have the light of life?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    J C wrote: »
    Why should I return to the 'dark side' when I now have the 'light of life'?

    Isn't it obvious why you should return to evolutionismismism?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Isn't it obvious why you should return to evolutionismismism?
    It isn't actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    J C wrote: »
    It isn't actually.

    I thought I'd posted this already, I've discovered the inverse proof of your
    proof thereby showing it to be false.
    Well there are at least 47 stars in the sky, correct? Now, if you divide that by
    the total number of protons minus the total number of electrons you'll quickly
    realise that that is the inverse proof to your proof thereby I think you'll see
    that through mathematical elegance & simplicity we've shown that the
    theory of evolutionismism has engulfed your theory due to the inverse
    relationship. It's just the maths I'm afraid, otherwise I wouldn't claim this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    J C wrote: »
    Humility is shown by Chrisitians to our almight God ... but there is no merit in humilty towards our fellow men on their way to eternal perdition ... we are commanded to point out their error confidently and lovingly ... and show them how to attain Salvation!!!

    That is how Chrisitans are supposed to do it. You though are not good enough a pretender to demonstrate you are a Christian, or interested in doing it like this.

    This is shown by the fact that instead of confidently and lovingly pointing out error you do so with giddy abandon, delighting in the pleasure of arguing with those on the other side, attempting to win arguments and insulting those you argue with.

    All not traits of a Christian. All traits of you.

    You aren't a Christian, you are a troll. You have admitted as much already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    J C wrote: »
    Why should I return to the 'dark side' when I now have the light of life?

    Because you never left. You pretend to be a Christian to facilitate your trolling. You have been doing this for 5 years. It is difficult to believe you still get a kick out of trolling. Now that the game is up you can admit what you were doing and go do something else with your life.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    J C wrote: »
    Advocating the killing of any Human Being is not Christian behaviour
    It certainly is "christian behaviour".

    Quite apart from Luther's christian belief that protestants should follow state law absolutely -- even to the extent of demanding that protestants murder jews -- the bible (Exodus 22:18) explicitly requires more people to be killed.

    Fun religion, that christianity!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    robindch wrote: »
    It certainly is "christian behaviour".

    Quite apart from Luther's christian belief that protestants should follow state law absolutely -- even to the extent of demanding that protestants murder jews -- the bible (Exodus 22:18) explicitly requires more people to be killed.

    Fun religion, that christianity!
    Luther wasn't infallible and he never claimed to be infallible ... and I note the following from your linked wikipedia article:-
    "Since the 1980s, some Lutheran church bodies have formally denounced and dissociated themselves from Luther's discriminatory writings on the Jews. In November 1998, on the 60th anniversary of Kristallnacht, the Lutheran Church of Bavaria issued a statement: "It is imperative for the Lutheran Church, which knows itself to be indebted to the work and tradition of Martin Luther, to take seriously also his anti-Jewish utterances, to acknowledge their theological function, and to reflect on their consequences. It has to distance itself from every [expression of] anti-Judaism in Lutheran theology."

    Old Testament Law doesn't apply to Christian era of God's Grace. Christians are under God's grace ... and they are not under His Law. For example, Paul makes it clear that Jewish Law, like circumcision, does not apply to Christians:-

    Galatians 5:5-6 (New International Version, ©2010)
    5 For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

    Old Testament Law only ever applied to the Israelite Peoples ... and it never applied to the Gentiles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,324 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    J C wrote: »
    Luther had some non-Christian ideas ... and I note the following from your linked wikipedia article:-
    "Since the 1980s, some Lutheran church bodies have formally denounced and dissociated themselves from Luther's discriminatory writings on the Jews. In November 1998, on the 60th anniversary of Kristallnacht, the Lutheran Church of Bavaria issued a statement: "It is imperative for the Lutheran Church, which knows itself to be indebted to the work and tradition of Martin Luther, to take seriously also his anti-Jewish utterances, to acknowledge their theological function, and to reflect on their consequences. It has to distance itself from every [expression of] anti-Judaism in Lutheran theology."

    Old Testament Law doesn't apply to Christian era of God's Grace. Christians are under God's grace ... and they are not under His Law.

    Well it's good to know that it only took god a few hundred years to tell them racism was bad. He's very on the ball with that.

    But come on JC, give it up. No one here is going to give you an argument any more because you are a troll. Drop the act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    Now everyone in this thread agrees that JC is just trolling, what's left to talk about?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,324 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    darjeeling wrote: »
    Now everyone in this thread agrees that JC is just trolling, what's left to talk about?
    What kind of sad bastard you have to be to do the same exact trolling for 5 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    King Mob wrote: »
    What kind of sad bastard you have to be to do the same exact trolling for 5 years?

    That should be a pretty short lived debate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    In the spirit of trollworthy rhetoric & argumentation I'll just pull up
    something posted by Robin here.
    I have to confess that I now regard “the case for theism” as a fraud and I
    can no longer take it seriously enough to present it to a class as a
    respectable philosophical position—no more than I could present intelligent
    design as a legitimate biological theory. BTW, in saying that I now consider
    the case for theism to be a fraud, I do not mean to charge that the people
    making that case are frauds who aim to fool us with claims they know to
    be empty. No, theistic philosophers and apologists are almost painfully
    earnest and honest... I just cannot take their arguments seriously any
    more, and if you cannot take something seriously, you should not try to
    devote serious academic attention to it.

    ...

    Although he has no doubt that the theistic arguments for God’s existence
    have been thoroughly rebutted, he allows that the atheistic arguments he
    finds persuasive might not be nearly as persuasive to another rational
    person who happens to have different intuitions.
    http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/atheologies/3853/a_philosopher_of_religion_calls_it_quits/
    He was one of you guys!!!! He was one of you guys!!!! Not even your own
    boys can 'keep the faith' :):D;):P:pac::D Obviously this is even better proof
    than my recent mathematical proof of the validity of evolution because
    this kind of evidence is far superior to all!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    King Mob wrote: »
    What kind of sad bastard you have to be to do the same exact trolling for 5 years?
    That's what I keep asking myself about Darwinists ... only it is over 150 years since they started 'trolling' !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,324 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    J C wrote: »
    That's what I keep asking myself about Darwinists ... only it is over 150 years since they started 'trolling' !!!
    Yes. you've tried these silly one liners JC, they aren't working.
    We aren't going to give you the argument you're so desperate for because you are a troll. Give it up man.

    All we want to know is why.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    In the spirit of trollworthy rhetoric & argumentation I'll just pull up
    something posted by Robin here.
    ... so an Atheist Philosopher of Religion abandons Philosophy of Religion ... and complains about Theism???
    ... surprise ... surprise????
    ... next item for discussion, please!!!!:)
    http://camelswithhammers.com/2011/01/05/atheist-philosopher-of-religion-keith-parsons-abandons-theism-debate-and-calls-theist-positions-frauds/


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes. you've tried these silly one liners JC, they aren't working.
    We aren't going to give you the argument you're so desperate for because you are a troll. Give it up man.

    All we want to know is why.
    My one-liners are true ... and they are so devastating that there is no effective response to them!!!

    ... so I think that you have made a good 'call' there!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    King Mob wrote: »
    Well it's good to know that it only took god a few hundred years to tell them racism was bad. He's very on the ball with that.

    But come on JC, give it up. No one here is going to give you an argument any more because you are a troll. Drop the act.
    Saved Christians aren't racists ... and indeed Creationists aren't either ... we accept that all Mankind are cousins ... descended from one man and one woman who lived less than 10,000 years ago ... so we are all 'one blood' and each person is a Child of God!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,324 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    J C wrote: »
    My one-liners are true ... and they are so devastating that there is no effective response to them!!!

    ... so I think that you have made a good 'call' there!!!
    No there are stupid and increasingly sad attempts to provoke a reaction, because that's what trolls post.
    You are a troll.
    J C wrote: »
    Saved Christians aren't racists ... and indeed Creationists aren't either ... we accept that all Mankind are cousins ... descended from one man and one woman who lived less than 10,000 years ago ... so we are all 'one blood' Children of God!!!
    See that's the exact thing I'm talking about.
    Painfully stupid, very pathetic and clearly trolling.

    Give it up JC. No one here believes you are anything other than a very sad and pathetic troll who's been called out.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    darjeeling wrote: »
    That should be a pretty short lived debate.
    The debate on Materialistic Evolution should also be short-lived ... but Evolutionists have shown themselves to be very inventive at prolonging it ... despite the thing being a nonesense!!!

    Trolling ... doesn't even begin to describe such denial!!!


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