Worst Plane habits

endacl · 15-05-2013 6:30pm

jackal wrote: »

What part of the seats being designed to recline do you not understand? Its not my problem if someone behind me is using my unoccupied reclining space for something else. Its not rude to try and sleep on a plane. There is no god given right for somebody to have enough room for their laptop to sit comfortably on their tray table.

If someone reclines in front of me, and I need more space, I simply recline my seat too, and due to the fact that all the seats recline an Identical amount, equilibrium is restored.

Not really. At 6'4" I can barely squeeze in when the seat is upright. The recline function is a hangover from the days when air travel was a luxury, and people paid a premium for it. Nowadays its the norm. Planes are pretty much buses of the sky. Much as I hate to hand Ryanair kudos for anything, doing away with recliners is something they got very right.

If you recline in front of me, I'm afraid you're in for a regularly disturbed sleep. I regularly feel the 'kneed' to move about in my seat...

dj jarvis · 15-05-2013 6:35pm

o1s1n wrote: »

So I'm an arsehole for not liking children crying, but you can assault them.

Right so!

Back to the OP - I'm not too fond of psychopaths on planes either.

i was not directing the assh0le comment at you o1s1n , i clearly said people giving the evil eye for the duration of a flight

and "assaulting them" , is your comic relief radar switched off today ?

and in fairness , you were the one that brought the subject of kids up, so dont be surprised when you get called on it
i have seen enough treads on this subject go full retard and i for one am not getting involved in this one,
one suggestion - buy ear plugs , helps drown out children without a choice crying, and adults drunk crying/singing who do have choice but choose to annoy you anyway - cant remember a plane having to divert becasue of a crying child

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/may/14/woman-flight-singing-whitney-houston-video

opti0nal · 15-05-2013 6:41pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

There are more, but Im sure you have experienced the same or worse, anyone else have any other annoying experiences on these flights??

People arriving boarding late, delaying the flight, making half the plane miss their connections.

starWave · 15-05-2013 6:45pm

People asking me to swap my aisle seat for a middle seat, so they can sit beside their boyfriend/girlfriend. The flight is only an hour and a half, could they not do with that time apart, and if they can't why don't they check in online in advance.

Also, people getting on the plane take so long and blocking everyone else to put their luggage up, take off their coat, and take loads of stuff out of their luggage for the flight. They've been waiting an hour to get on the plane, I don't see why they can't use this time to prepare for the flight.

starWave · 15-05-2013 6:48pm

opti0nal wrote: »

People arriving boarding late, delaying the flight, making half the plane miss their connections.

I once arrived at the airport when everyone was already on the plane. Still took off on time though, with me on board. Those were the days on Aer Arann in Galway airport.

dj jarvis · 15-05-2013 6:48pm

starWave wrote: »

People asking me to swap my aisle seat for a middle seat, so they can sit beside their boyfriend/girlfriend. The flight is only an hour and a half, could they not do with that time apart, and if they can't why don't they check in online in advance.

Also, people getting on the plane take so long and blocking everyone else to put their luggage up, take off their coat, and take loads of stuff out of their luggage for the flight. They've been waiting an hour to get on the plane, I don't see why they can't use this time to prepare for the flight.

these would be the same people who do the VERY same thing at ATMs or the check out at the supermarket - i think the name used in common parlance is a suffering ****tard - socks with snooker balls would remedy that situation quick smart :mad:

o1s1n · 15-05-2013 6:49pm

dj jarvis wrote: »

and "assaulting them" , is your comic relief radar switched off today ?
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So then why do you assume my comments weren't in jest? Or are you the only one who is allowed to joke about kids on transport?

I just got on a Luas with a crying baby.

Zaph · 15-05-2013 6:50pm

jackal wrote: »

What part of the seats being designed to recline do you not understand? Its not my problem if someone behind me is using my unoccupied reclining space for something else. Its not rude to try and sleep on a plane. There is no god given right for somebody to have enough room for their laptop to sit comfortably on their tray table.

If someone reclines in front of me, and I need more space, I simply recline my seat too, and due to the fact that all the seats recline an Identical amount, equilibrium is restored.

Whatever about there being no god given right to have room for a laptop, it's not too much to expect that when I'm eating my meal that the person in front puts up their seat so I can do so. Just because they're not eating doesn't mean I should try to do so with my elbows tucked into my armpits and the table dug into my stomach. I had to get an attendant to ask one ignorant fcuker to move his seat forward once because he pretty much refused to do so when I asked him.

DeanAustin · 15-05-2013 6:51pm

starWave wrote: »

People asking me to swap my aisle seat for a middle seat, so they can sit beside their boyfriend/girlfriend. The flight is only an hour and a half, could they not do with that time apart, and if they can't why don't they check in online in advance.

Absolutely.

Can't understand wanting to sit beside people on a flight. Not like you really have proper conversations on a flight. F**k me, it's either an hour or two flight or you're long haul on the entertainment system.

I travel a bit with work and try to avoid sitting beside my workmates if I can. In fact, I try to avoid travelling with them. Maybe I should get a new job...

Prodigious · 15-05-2013 6:56pm

Clandestine wrote: »

Anyone with the guts to do this
http://i.imgur.com/j2HWA.jpg

I dunno, she looks a bit young.

dj jarvis · 15-05-2013 6:56pm

o1s1n wrote: »

So then why do you assume my comments weren't in jest? Or are you the only one who is allowed to joke about kids on transport?

I just got on a Luas with a crying baby.

well you are right , you COULD have been saying it in jest , but it did not come across that way - must be just me huh ?

a crying baby on the luas !!!! cheek of the parents , go eye ball to eye ball and begin staring - that will show them

( IN JEST !!! )

starWave · 15-05-2013 6:58pm

dj jarvis wrote: »

these would be the same people who do the VERY same thing at ATMs or the check out at the supermarket - i think the name used in common parlance is a suffering ****tard - socks with snooker balls would remedy that situation quick smart :mad:

I sometimes wonder what people do be at ATMs. Is there a mortgage application button somewhere? Or maybe a secret pac-man game built in?

DeanAustin · 15-05-2013 7:02pm

dj jarvis wrote: »

these would be the same people who do the VERY same thing at ATMs or the check out at the supermarket - i think the name used in common parlance is a suffering ****tard - socks with snooker balls would remedy that situation quick smart :mad:

I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Seriously, without meaning to be sexist, this is usually women when it comes to ATMs and shops. What the f**k are they playing at at the ATM? And the supermarket...Christ on a bike. Anyway, probably a subject for another thread.

Baneblade · 15-05-2013 7:03pm

EDDIE WATERS wrote: »

**** on a plane

when the air hostess tells you to knock it off

LiamoSail · 15-05-2013 7:03pm

endacl wrote: »

Not really. At 6'4" I can barely squeeze in when the seat is upright. The recline function is a hangover from the days when air travel was a luxury, and people paid a premium for it. Nowadays its the norm. Planes are pretty much buses of the sky. Much as I hate to hand Ryanair kudos for anything, doing away with recliners is something they got very right.

If you recline in front of me, I'm afraid you're in for a regularly disturbed sleep. I regularly feel the 'kneed' to move about in my seat...

There's recliners on the seats for a reason. You can't blame someone for using a facility they have paid for, exactly how it was intended to be used. Why should someone else sacrifice their comfort for yours and in the process give up something they have paid for?

If you want more space on a plane, then play for business class. Don't expect others to make sacrifices on your behalf because you're too cheap to pay for the space you feel you need

endacl · 15-05-2013 7:04pm

LiamoSail wrote: »

Why should someone else sacrifice their comfort for yours and in the process give up something they have paid for?

Manners?

Prodigious · 15-05-2013 7:05pm

LiamoSail wrote: »

There's recliners on the seats for a reason.

There's also a fold down table on the back of every seat for a reason. Laptops, food, books, etc.

LiamoSail · 15-05-2013 7:08pm

Zaph wrote: »

Whatever about there being no god given right to have room for a laptop, it's not too much to expect that when I'm eating my meal that the person in front puts up their seat so I can do so. Just because they're not eating doesn't mean I should try to do so with my elbows tucked into my armpits and the table dug into my stomach. I had to get an attendant to ask one ignorant fcuker to move his seat forward once because he pretty much refused to do so when I asked him.

They're entitled to recline their seat. Why do you feel they should be obliged to inconvenience themselves so you have more room to eat? Surely if you want more room, you should pay for more room rather then expect others to go out of their way to accommodate you

starWave · 15-05-2013 7:08pm

endacl wrote: »

Manners?

The airplane engineer didn't have manners on his list when he designed the plane. Anyone is entitled to use the features on the plane. Sure its the same on the buses.

Anyways, any plane I was on only reclined a few degrees. It's a bit annoying, but you can always recline your own seat to even things out.

Is there some plane with super recliner seats?

Nino Brown · 15-05-2013 7:08pm

Prodigious wrote: »

There's also a fold down table on the back of every seat for a reason. Laptops, food, books, etc.

So let your seat back if you need room, that's why they recline

Rented Mule · 15-05-2013 7:09pm

o1s1n wrote: »

People who feel the need to bring babies on long haul flights. :mad:

/Glare.

Deal with it. They're not sitting on your lap.

Prodigious · 15-05-2013 7:11pm

Nino Brown wrote: »

So let your seat back if you need room, that's why they recline

No. If it's folded out and the inconsiderate fool in front of you reclines their seat chances are the items on the table will fall off.

endacl · 15-05-2013 7:11pm

starWave wrote: »

you can always recline your own seat to even things out.

No you can't. Only shortarses think this. Its a length of thigh thing...

starWave · 15-05-2013 7:11pm

It always baffles me when there's an elderly lady at the exit row, and she needs help to put her suitcase up on the rack, but yet she's expected to open the emergency door in an emergency event, and throw it out in front of her.

Rob32 · 15-05-2013 7:12pm

Bringing snakes on the plane, totally unnecessary and pisses me right off.

starWave · 15-05-2013 7:13pm

endacl wrote: »

No you can't. Only shortarses think this. Its a length of thigh thing...

Does it not hinge above the upper leg level, giving you more leg room, and less face room? Thats how it is on Aer Lingus anyway.

Nino Brown · 15-05-2013 7:13pm

Prodigious wrote: »

No. If it's folded out and the inconsiderate fool in front of you reclines their seat chances are the items on the table will fall off.

Ah yeah fair enough, I always let mine back gently just in case somebody's knee or something is in they way, but when it's back that's where it stays.

LiamoSail · 15-05-2013 7:13pm

endacl wrote: »

Manners?

That's a ridiculous response. It's not bad manners to utilise a facility you have paid for

Prodigious wrote: »

There's also a fold down table on the back of every seat for a reason. Laptops, food, books, etc.

Yes, and even with a reclined seat, they can be used by most

Again, I fail to understand why people expect others to sacrifice their own comfort for a complete strangers. If people want more room, then pay for it. Don't expect charity from others

maglite · 15-05-2013 7:14pm

I'm shocked at the number of people pro seat reclining, it has a use, and only when it's dark, on a flight more than 5hrs and to sleep.

It's not supposed to be, LHR-DUB for 50min or Transatlantic once you board the plane. It's that middle section after the food is done and people settle down to sleep.

mel.b · 15-05-2013 7:16pm

Someone snoring on a plane is the one thing that really really really gets to me. there is no escaping from it and it doesn't matter how loud you turn up your music, somehow it penetrates through.

GreeBo · 15-05-2013 7:16pm

endacl wrote: »

Not really. At 6'4" I can barely squeeze in when the seat is upright. The recline function is a hangover from the days when air travel was a luxury, and people paid a premium for it. Nowadays its the norm. Planes are pretty much buses of the sky. Much as I hate to hand Ryanair kudos for anything, doing away with recliners is something they got very right.

If you recline in front of me, I'm afraid you're in for a regularly disturbed sleep. I regularly feel the 'kneed' to move about in my seat...

So I'm guessing you have no problem with obese people spilling onto your seat then?
If you are too tall to sit in a seat comfortably then pay for a bigger seat, just like the fatties should.

Zaph · 15-05-2013 7:18pm

LiamoSail wrote: »

They're entitled to recline their seat. Why do you feel they should be obliged to inconvenience themselves so you have more room to eat? Surely if you want more room, you should pay for more room rather then expect others to go out of their way to accommodate you

That's the most ridiculous argument I've ever seen. I've paid the same as them and am entitled to a certain level of comfort as well. And it's not as if it's a 15 course tasting menu, the tray will be gone in half an hour and they can put their seat back when I'm done. It's about basic courtesy, nothing more, nothing less.

southsiderosie · 15-05-2013 7:18pm

maglite wrote: »

I'm shocked at the number of people pro seat reclining, it has a use, and only when it's dark, on a flight more than 5hrs and to sleep.

It's not supposed to be, LHR-DUB for 50min or Transatlantic once you board the plane. It's that middle section after the food is done and people settle down to sleep.

Yeah, I always felt that way too about seat reclining. Sadly, those are the "informal" rules*, although on long haul flights where they serve meals, I have seen flight attendants ask people to tilt their seats back up for dinner service, even if they are asleep.

*with the one caveat being that long-haul flights in Asia often leave around midnight, so people often zonk out as soon as they get on the plane.

starWave · 15-05-2013 7:19pm

I once had the middle seat, and two men on a business trip had the window seat and aisle seat, and had a conversation right across me.

Now thats bad manners.

Gorilla Rising · 15-05-2013 7:19pm

I try not to let the reclined seat thing bother me too much. I mean, I can recline my seat too (and normally I end up having to, not all the way though) so. They're built for the purpose.

I won't tolerate someone who won't put the seat upright when food/drinks are being served. Same goes for take off and landing.

endacl · 15-05-2013 7:20pm

starWave wrote: »

Does it not hinge above the upper leg level, giving you more leg room, and less face room? Thats how it is on Aer Lingus anyway.

No. Less leg room. If I sit in a plane seat, I'm pretty much back straight against the seat, and knees pressed up against the seat in front. . I've never sat on a flight where I could get my feet under the seat in front of me - business class included. At 6'4", I'm tall, but not unusually tall. As soon as the seat in front goes back, I'm squashed in. Normally, pointing this out politely does the trick. People generally are decent. If they insist though.... well, I've the 'right' to get comfortable at somebody else's expense too, don't I? Which I'll happily do till the seat goes back up.

The reality is, to squeeze a few more rows of seats in, airlines sacrifice space and comfort. For everybody. 3 more inches, and reclining wouldn't be an issue. I could stretch out, and hobbits could recline.

who_me · 15-05-2013 7:21pm

Personally I hate the way some idiot plane designer/airline executive has the seats so wedged in that the passengers might as well be in a chicken battery farm. Which inevitably leads to lots of abuse directed between passengers ('the guy next to me is too fat', 'the guy in front reclines his seat into my knees', 'the guy behind is hitting my seat with his knees') instead of more productively bitching about the clueless idiot/greedy asshole who designed the interiors like that in the first place.

And some airlines are worse than others. I flew on a Thomas Cook charter flight, and the seat pitch was ridiculous. I'm neither heavy nor tall (about 5'11) and my legs were wedged hard against the seat in front, ended up with backaches for a couple of days, just getting better in time for the flight back. It's a farce.

Sulla Felix · 15-05-2013 7:22pm

endacl wrote: »

Not really. At 6'4" I can barely squeeze in when the seat is upright. The recline function is a hangover from the days when air travel was a luxury, and people paid a premium for it. Nowadays its the norm. Planes are pretty much buses of the sky. Much as I hate to hand Ryanair kudos for anything, doing away with recliners is something they got very right.

If you recline in front of me, I'm afraid you're in for a regularly disturbed sleep. I regularly feel the 'kneed' to move about in my seat...

then, like me, you should be able to ' accident ly' rub their calves with your feet from under tge seat. Frightens the **** out of people and when you explain that with the seat down you can't tuck your knees up lo and behold up the seat goes.

endacl · 15-05-2013 7:22pm

LiamoSail wrote: »

That's a ridiculous response. It's not bad manners to utilise a facility you have paid for

Of course it is if it encroaches on somebody else. You paid for the flight. Not the recline.

starWave · 15-05-2013 7:23pm

Anyone that really detests seat reclining could always ask to have the exit row seat, as those don't decline. Just please be able to easily lift 15kg, in case we need to use that door.

mattjack · 15-05-2013 7:24pm

I regularly have to fly with a work colleague who's an annoying cunt , the amount of times I've lined up the crosshairs on a target and just as I pull the trigger , he elbows me.
Many's a car , bridge , house we've hit.

nlgbbbblth · 15-05-2013 7:25pm

I hate people who put their seat back.

I didn't know that Ryanair had done away with them. Good decision.

Sulla Felix · 15-05-2013 7:26pm

starWave wrote: »

Anyone that really detests seat reclining could always ask to have the exit row seat, as those don't decline. Just please be able to easily lift 15kg, in case we need to use that door.

They charge for it with some airlines . I was seated behind an elderly couple in the exit seat on an aa flight and the attendant asked me if I'd be willing to perform the duty...

Latchy · 15-05-2013 7:30pm

GreeBo wrote: »

You paid for the flight, not the legroom.

Travelling alone to Dublin from Manchester on a Ryanair flight some years ago I was seated inside Mr 25 year old '' I'm sitting on the outside with my knees folded ,reading my book and don't want to move for anybody '' fellow passenger ( described best by GreeBo above )

To bad because even though it's only a 25 minute flight I need to go the loo and your ignorant roll eyes means jack **** to me so move you knob .

He did to .

starWave · 15-05-2013 7:31pm

Sulla Felix wrote: »

They charge for it with some airlines . I was seated behind an elderly couple in the exit seat on an aa flight and the attendant asked me if I'd be willing to perform the duty...

Sure how would you open the door with them in the way? In a normal day situation you might manage, but add in a bit of panic and a bit of smoke, you won't even get near the door.

If nobody pays for them, manys the time I've been asked to sit in the row when the flight wasn't full, or if its full, they have to put someone there anyway.

Also for people who have rude seat recliners in front of them, sone airlines keep an entire row free down the back that you can't select when you check in (if 90% full), just in case. Usually they use if for kids who want a window seat, or families that want to sit together.

jimmy180sx · 15-05-2013 7:32pm

People who insist their bag is small enough to fit in the bag size thing at the gate..and begin to smash it into the cage..i once was on a short haul flight were on guy was stopped for overweight handluggage. 20 minutes later he was boarding the plane when he began peeling 10 tshirts off and shove them into the overhead locker. We did all cheer when he finished..

endacl · 15-05-2013 7:33pm

Found a solution!

http://www.thejournal.ie/knee-defender-airline-seat-recline-803570-Feb2013/

I'm gettin' one!

GreeBo · 15-05-2013 7:34pm

endacl wrote: »

Of course it is if it encroaches on somebody else. You paid for the flight. Not the recline.

You paid for the flight, not the legroom.

FTA69 · 15-05-2013 7:41pm

thecommander wrote: »

If the seats weren't meant to recline then they wouldn't. It is your problem.

So if I raise my knees so that they're digging into your back and you're unable to recline does that then become "your problem" and I'm automatically in the right?

Eunan Plumb · 15-05-2013 7:43pm

Backpacks...thats my big gripe about air travel and airports.

Why do people have to walk around with what looks like a massive tumour on their backs and requires the turning circle of the Queen Mary.

Ryan air is the worst...spotty gimps in cargoes with huge packs on their backs festooned with a zillion straps and flaps.

A queue of "gate lice" begins to form about an hour before the flight...and the flight is only going to BIR which will only take about 35 mins.

Then there is always....always the Gimp sprawled out asleep over 4 seats and the even bigger Gimp tapping away on their laptop as if their life depended on it .....look at me I'm so productive I refuse to waste even a second of my time.!

Yeah.....air travel....brings out the worst in folk....:mad:

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