Guinness Hop House 13 - what's the deal?

OldMrBrennan83 · 28-05-2015 10:23am

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CramCycle · 28-05-2015 10:23am

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

I'm curious, what do you consider to be "crafty" in a beer? Colour, flavour?

I presume it is what some people refer to as over hopped. It's not correct but I can see why some people do think this in reference to what they see as craft beers.

These people need to be sat down and given different craft beers so they can realise they are not all over hopped IPAs.

Simon201 · 28-05-2015 10:39am

L1011 wrote: »

Make sure its moving before buying, it seems to go very manky very quick if its not selling. Always tastes rather stale in one local pub unless there's been a few other buyers that evening.

Yes exactly this.

I've found this happened a couple of times recently. Was probably the only one drinking it so was sitting in the pipes for a while. Definitely wasn't as cold as I was expecting. Gave one of the pints back without a problem...

oblivious · 28-05-2015 10:42am

Simon201 wrote: »

Yes exactly this.

I've found this happened a couple of times recently. Was probably the only one drinking it so was sitting in the pipes for a while. Definitely wasn't as cold as I was expecting. Gave one of the pints back without a problem...

Those hop aromas will change and or disappear quite fast if the beer is not kept cold

lk67 · 28-05-2015 2:25pm

Patww79 wrote: »

In my experience of what I've tried, it's that really strong alcoholy aftertaste. Nearly like someone threw a double vodka in a regular pint. That's the main reason I avoid them anyway, especially those ones marked IPA.

I think it's probably the hops you're picking up on...

Most beers, even quite strong ones, have very little perceivable alchohol taste imo.

There are some very good micro lagers and similarly lower hopped beers about.

OldMrBrennan83 · 29-05-2015 2:20pm

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Chris_Bradley · 31-05-2015 3:38pm

I was very surprised to be so badly let down in the taste department by this from Guinness.

Soapy bland taste that went down very slow.

Complete mystery to me that they failed so badly with this.

Nice glass though.

The One Doctor · 01-06-2015 8:12pm

Chris_Bradley wrote: »

I was very surprised to be so badly let down in the taste department by this from Guinness.

Soapy bland taste that went down very slow.

Complete mystery to me that they failed so badly with this.

Nice glass though.

They failed badly with Guinness too. Bland muck, both of them.

Simon201 · 02-06-2015 10:30am

The One Doctor wrote: »

They failed badly with Guinness too.

I'm chuckling a little and that may be your opinion but that's a bit like saying Cadburys failed with Dairy Milk!

irish_goat · 02-06-2015 10:34am

Simon201 wrote: »

I'm chuckling a little and that may be your opinion but that's a bit like saying Cadburys failed with Dairy Milk!

Dairy Milk is pretty poor quality chocolate.

Lovely Bloke · 02-06-2015 10:42am

loads of people eat it though.

CramCycle · 02-06-2015 10:49am

irish_goat wrote: »

Dairy Milk is pretty poor quality chocolate.

It is a delicious source of fat though.

The One Doctor wrote: »

They failed badly with Guinness too. Bland muck, both of them.

It depends on how you look at it, if you believe Guinness tastes the same now as it did 50 years ago, then they have not failed, they are delivering a consistent product. If you believe, as many do, that the taste has become tamed since Diageo too over in an attempt to appeal to a wider market, then yes, they have.

I don't mind Guinness but it isn't my tipple of choice anymore.

Back on topic, I just don't like Hop House 13 and I think the teabag of hops dunked in a sub standard lager is an apt description. Is it trolling or spamming if I keep saying the same thing over and over again. I have had it twice now in different bars and the taste was the same. Maybe i am just unlucky and getting bad pints.

laois gael · 26-06-2015 4:34pm

I have had a few regular session of this...

By Session I mean 7-10 pints

I really like it....

I love craft beers and have tried over 100 its not as strong as them but is defo nicer than the regular lagers ...

I drink Smithwicks up and down and to me its a better drink than Ale but not unlike an Ale ...

I'll be sticking with it for a while...

It was on Sale in the Marquee in Cork last week and was creamy and delicious even form a plastic glass!

Lovely Bloke · 26-06-2015 4:49pm

creamy? was it being served nitro?

duckysauce · 27-06-2015 12:23am

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

creamy? was it being served nitro?

proper temp

Effects · 27-06-2015 9:21am

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

loads of people eat it though.

Loads of people listen to One Direction. That doesn't make it good music.

The Hill Billy · 27-06-2015 10:27am

Some people like Dairy Milk, some don't.
Some people like Hop House 13, some don't.
Let's not go totally off-topic by dragging One Direction into the mix.

Thanks,

tHB

PS - I

Taylor Swift!

Roquentin · 27-06-2015 1:01pm

laois gael wrote: »

I have had a few regular session of this...

By Session I mean 7-10 pints

I really like it....

I love craft beers and have tried over 100 its not as strong as them but is defo nicer than the regular lagers ...

I drink Smithwicks up and down and to me its a better drink than Ale but not unlike an Ale ...

I'll be sticking with it for a while...

It was on Sale in the Marquee in Cork last week and was creamy and delicious even form a plastic glass!

kind of fruity as well. i like it. on a hot day its dynamite

FlipperThePriest · 29-06-2015 7:08pm

Effects wrote: »

Loads of people listen to One Direction. That doesn't make it good music.

And it definitely doesn't make them a failure

Personal taste in any given music/beer/chocolate: Subjective
Amount of sales in any given music/beer/Chocolate: Objective

Some beers seem to suffer more from sitting in lines, Hop House is one of those. Bud is another (I don't drink it, just know from serving it).

L1011 · 29-06-2015 7:31pm

zippy84 wrote: »

Some beers seem to suffer more from sitting in lines, Hop House is one of those. Bud is another (I don't drink it, just know from serving it).

Anything made here by Diageo seems to, Carlsberg is also severely affected by it.

Effects · 01-07-2015 9:49am

I figure this happens to Guinness mid strength too. I've had it a few places and it can taste quite different.

dvdman1 · 04-07-2015 12:26pm

This hop house flowers whatever...is totally disgusting
I drank 1 then had to throw a Guinness on top to get the filth off my breath...I don't even drink Guinness but I got lured into a zero choice bar.

BaZmO* · 04-07-2015 1:00pm

dvdman1 wrote: »

This hop house flowers whatever...is totally disgusting
I drank 1 then had to throw a Guinness on top to get the filth off my breath...I don't even drink Guinness but I got lured into a zero choice bar.

You'd swear it was actual poison. It may be a tad boring but it's not that bad.

OldMrBrennan83 · 04-07-2015 1:11pm

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Slattsy · 07-07-2015 2:51pm

Been sold out of several bars (Dublin city centre) i've been in over the past month or so. Delighted to see its selling so well.
I've not been drinking much of it myself, apart from the odd one here and there, but a lot of my mates are getting stuck into it.

My Father is in the bar game and they cant get enough of it in his place either and he cant get what he wants in. They cant supply the demand.

Great to see -vivaDiageo

Speak Now · 07-07-2015 3:06pm

Had a pint in Dublin at the weekend, cant believe how terrible it was. It must have been a bad pint, no way it could be that horrible surely.

L1011 · 07-07-2015 5:42pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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They're now so rare they're far from "normal". A normal pub doesn't have 8 taps and the same 8 in bottles anymore

Lucena · 08-07-2015 10:21am

@L1011

I keep hearing this on this forum that "zero choice pubs" are far from normal. From my experience (ok I'm only in Ireland at most twice a year these days) most pubs outside Dublin have zero craft beer.

What's the situation in Maynooth?

the beer revolu · 08-07-2015 10:27am

Lucena wrote: »

@L1011

I keep hearing this on this forum that "zero choice pubs" are far from normal. From my experience (ok I'm only in Ireland at most twice a year these days) most pubs outside Dublin have zero craft beer.

What's the situation in Maynooth?

Download the Beoir Finder ap.
Very useful tool.

L1011 · 08-07-2015 10:53am

Lucena wrote: »

@L1011

I keep hearing this on this forum that "zero choice pubs" are far from normal. From my experience (ok I'm only in Ireland at most twice a year these days) most pubs outside Dublin have zero craft beer.

What's the situation in Maynooth?

One pub* has Diageo/Heineken/C&C only, the rest have multiple craft taps and all have an acceptable range on bottles.

*I will admit I haven't been in the GAA club's bar recently enough to include it, so it could be two.

Lovely Bloke · 08-07-2015 12:56pm

The Bachelor is a "Normal Pub", no craft, but they do have, bizarrely, re-badged Murphy's being sold as a house-stout.

Hophouse 13, Cute Hoor and Orchard Thieves notwithstanding.

OldMrBrennan83 · 08-07-2015 1:00pm

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Lucena · 08-07-2015 1:44pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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I hate this kind of sh1te. As a barman, you have to respect the customer's wishes and serve them what they want. If the barman really wants to promote craft beer, it's better to gently educate people who might seem interested (wee sample if customer says, "What's that beer like?") as opposed to this Comic Book Guy sneery attitude.

It's probably more and exercise in 'I'm better than you' than anything else.

donaghs · 08-07-2015 1:54pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Been sold out of several bars (Dublin city centre) i've been in over the past month or so. Delighted to see its selling so well.
I've not been drinking much of it myself, apart from the odd one here and there, but a lot of my mates are getting stuck into it.

My Father is in the bar game and they cant get enough of it in his place either and he cant get what he wants in. They cant supply the demand.

Great to see -vivaDiageo

You don't really drink it, but are delighted to see it selling so well? I don't really follow you here.

BaZmO* · 08-07-2015 2:00pm

Lucena wrote: »

I hate this kind of sh1te. As a barman, you have to respect the customer's wishes and serve them what they want. If the barman really wants to promote craft beer, it's better to gently educate people who might seem interested (wee sample if customer says, "What's that beer like?") as opposed to this Comic Book Guy sneery attitude.

It's probably more and exercise in 'I'm better than you' than anything else.

Yeah it's an awful attitude. Internally I'm a beer snob but only towards beer I drink myself. I've always been conscience not to sneer at what my mates drink. Eventually people will come around. A snobby attitude just makes people not want to change or try something different.

Lovely Bloke · 08-07-2015 2:36pm

BaZmO* wrote: »

Yeah it's an awful attitude. Internally I'm a beer snob but only towards beer I drink myself. I've always been conscience not to sneer at what my mates drink. Eventually people will come around. A snobby attitude just makes people not want to change or try something different.

Yep, I'll always try to get my friends to try what I'm having, but they are mostly having Guinness, Bulmers or some macro lager.

One friend always asks me for a recommendation for a stout or porter and will sometimes drink it, or sometimes not.

Others will take a sip of an IPA, make a face, and go back to their lager.

Meh, I spent long enough being a LOI snob and getting nowhere, now I just enjoy what I'm drinking, let others enjoy theirs and if they want to ask questions then I answer them.

Lucena · 08-07-2015 2:41pm

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Yep, I'll always try to get my friends to try what I'm having, but they are mostly having Guinness, Bulmers or some macro lager.

One friend always asks me for a recommendation for a stout or porter and will sometimes drink it, or sometimes not.

Others will take a sip of an IPA, make a face, and go back to their lager.

Meh, I spent long enough being a LOI snob and getting nowhere, now I just enjoy what I'm drinking, let others enjoy theirs and if they want to ask questions then I answer them.

LOI?

Tipperary Southern & District Football League is where it's at these days! :P

CramCycle · 08-07-2015 2:52pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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I'd consider it far more palatable than Hop House.

My local barman scoffs at anyone who orders it so I tend to avoid it, he's a big crafty head.

Your local barman must not be cut out for his job. I worked behind the counter for years and would never be like that. Might have a joke with regulars, give my opinion if warranted, but scoffing at customers, that kind of attitude would put me off ever setting foot in the bar again.

Lovely Bloke · 08-07-2015 3:16pm

Lucena wrote: »

LOI?

Tipperary Southern & District Football League is where it's at these days! :P

Hipster!

I said it before and I'll say it again.

Craft beer drinkers and LoI fans are peas in a pod. Both are seen as weird consumers of a bit of a left-field product that no-one really trusts.

L1011 · 08-07-2015 3:29pm

And yet it used to be the Harp league!

Redsoxfan · 10-07-2015 10:04am

L1011 wrote: »

One pub* has Diageo/Heineken/C&C only, the rest have multiple craft taps and all have an acceptable range on bottles.

*I will admit I haven't been in the GAA club's bar recently enough to include it, so it could be two.

I assume it's the Roost that is still holding out? Or the Newtown Inn?

Lucena · 10-07-2015 11:31am

Redsoxfan wrote: »

I assume it's the Roost that is still holding out? Or the Newtown Inn?

Curious about that myself!

Does that mean that Brady's and Caulfield's (assuming they still exist) are serving craft beer? They used to be 'old man' pubs when I lived there a good few years back.

GLaDOS · 10-07-2015 11:46am

Redsoxfan wrote: »

I assume it's the Roost that is still holding out? Or the Newtown Inn?

Not a regular, but The Roost hasn't had any craft beer any time I've been in

OldMrBrennan83 · 10-07-2015 2:05pm

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Lucena · 10-07-2015 2:13pm

@Patww 79

Not a Heineken or a lager drinker, but surprised by this. I've heard of Guinness varying in quality/taste depending on the pub/time of day/busyness of pub etc... but never lager.

Is this specific to Heineken, or do all lagers vary from pub to pub?

Redsoxfan · 10-07-2015 2:57pm

Lucena wrote: »

Curious about that myself!

Does that mean that Brady's and Caulfield's (assuming they still exist) are serving craft beer? They used to be 'old man' pubs when I lived there a good few years back.

Sorry for OT..

Bradys has Franciscan Well, McGargles and I think Kellys Mountain Brew.

Caulfields (now McMahons) has Kellys Mountain Brew last I saw.

L1011 · 10-07-2015 5:07pm

Roost has only macros. Brady's has three or four craft taps in the lounge.

OldMrBrennan83 · 10-07-2015 7:39pm

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The Hill Billy · 24-07-2015 6:15pm

I was in my local last night & noticed that the majority of people were drinking HH13. The boss told me that it has gone way beyond the 'honeymoon period' when he expected a bit of a spike in sales, & is now outselling all other draught lagers & is just a shade off outselling Guinness.

Roquentin · 24-07-2015 6:19pm

The Hill Billy wrote: »

I was in my local last night & noticed that the majority of people were drinking HH13. The boss told me that it has gone way beyond the 'honeymoon period' when he expected a bit of a spike in sales, & is now outselling all other draught lagers & is just a shade off outselling Guinness.

like it, although many i have met dont

Guinness Hop House 13 - what's the deal?

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