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Growler fill stations:Supervalue

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  • #52
    ThisRegard
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    BeerNut wrote: »
    "I had a growler of x. I kept it for y days and it went all cardboardy/sour/bland, presumably because the growler had not been flushed with CO2 before filling."

    Something along those lines: an actual story about The Hose Problem, rather than theory.

    I gave one a page or two back. 2 growlers, same beer, one opened a couple of days previously, reopened on the same day the other first was since bottled. There was a noticeable difference in taste with that particular beer between the 2.


  • #53
    BeerNut
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    Not G.R wrote: »
    Have you?
    I've drank beer that was in a hose-filled growler for three weeks and it was in perfect condition.
    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I gave one a page or two back. 2 growlers, same beer, one opened a couple of days previously, reopened on the same day the other first was since bottled. There was a noticeable difference in taste with that particular beer between the 2.
    That doesn't tell us anything about flushed vs. hose-filled, though.

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  • #54
    RasTa
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    BeerNut wrote: »
    "I had a growler of x. I kept it for y days and it went all cardboardy/sour/bland, presumably because the growler had not been flushed with CO2 before filling."

    Something along those lines: an actual story about The Hose Problem, rather than theory.

    Why would I bother waiting 3 weeks when the theory(it's not even theory) is from people who I'd believe before some random person on the internet like yourself?

    You've being told why the flushed method is better as it's the same as how they fill beer cans and bottles in the factory's
    The bottles may then be rinsed with filtered water or air, and may have carbon dioxide injected into them in attempt to reduce the level of oxygen within the bottle

    Same as a purged growler right? What part of oxidisation via a tap don't you understand?


  • #55
    Not G.R
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    BeerNut wrote: »
    I've drank beer that was in a hose-filled growler for three weeks and it was in perfect condition.

    That doesn't really tell us anything. Did you use a control. Perfect condition compared to what?Was it a beer you were familiar with.

    Tbh I've no real swing either was as any growler I've gotten has been gone within a day or two

    It would be interesting to see some actual tests on this.


  • #56
    BeerNut
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    RasTa wrote: »
    Why would I bother waiting 3 weeks when the theory(it's not even theory) is from people who I'd believe before some random person on the internet like yourself?
    No reason at all. I'm just wondering if anyone has any actual proof that hose-filled growler beer goes off faster than CO2-flushed. That's all.
    Not G.R wrote: »
    That doesn't really tell us anything.
    Not even a suggestion that maybe hose-filled growler beer perhaps doesn't go off as fast as is normally claimed?
    Not G.R wrote: »
    Did you use a control. Perfect condition compared to what?Was it a beer you were familiar with.
    It was a beer I am familiar with. It tasted exactly like a freshly-poured pint.
    Not G.R wrote: »
    Tbh I've no real swing either was as any growler I've gotten has been gone within a day or two
    I'd say most people are the same, which is why I'm wondering why the superiority of CO2 flushing keeps being repeated when it might make no difference to anyone's beer.

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  • #57
    billythefish99
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    BeerNut wrote: »
    It was a beer I am familiar with. It tasted exactly like a freshly-poured pint.
    Hah, youve changed your tune


  • #58
    BeerNut
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    I have? I think I stand by my opinions there, even if I was wrong about growlers in the off licence being a non-starter. And I'm glad I was wrong: I've never got a growler filled in an off licence and have no plans to do so, but it's great to have the choice.

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  • #59
    snowblind
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    Counter-pressure systems may further reduce filling waste; however counter-pressure filled growlers will not necessarily have a longer shelf-life.
    http://www.draughtquality.org/wp-content/uploads/The-Facts-About-Growlers-v1.pdf

    Light definitely causes degradation to hop flavour and heat & oxygen definitely degrade the hops at least as raw material

    In the states I visited many established growler stations, none of them used the CO2 method. I would never buy a growler unless I was going to drink all of it within 2 days.


  • #60
    snowblind
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    The more growler stations, the better. Less empty bottles to haul around and a wider selection of beer.

    Of course there is a cultural difference but just like in craft beer in general there is a shift happening everywhere. American style hoppy beers made in Ireland were still absent three years ago due to cultural issues but now I'd rather drink a local one than a world class hyped one from the states.


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  • #61
    oblivious
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    snowblind wrote: »
    The more growler stations, the better. Less empty bottles to haul around and a wider selection of beer.


    Also good for quality, kegs are generally store cold at the station


  • #62
    Arthur Daley
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    Been enjoying the metalman for a few weeks now. It's working out pricey enough at about 5 euro a pint when you take the ten euro growler into account.

    So it's a premium option and not many are willing to pay 5euro a pint to drink at home, but it does taste very fine and you can tell the difference when you move back even to the premium bottled beers.


  • #63
    Losty Dublin
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    Arthur Daley wrote: »
    Been enjoying the metalman for a few weeks now. It's working out pricey enough at about 5 euro a pint when you take the ten euro growler into account.

    So it's a premium option and not many are willing to pay 5euro a pint to drink at home, but it does taste very fine and you can tell the difference when you move back even to the premium bottled beers.

    Where are you buying yours, may I ask? Just that my local Offie which is dispensing a growler charges €14-€15 for 2 litre refills and €5 (I think) for the bottle itself.


  • #64
    Lovely Bloke
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    Re-fill prices will depend on the beer.

    A 7% beer is going to cost more to re-fill than a session 4.5% pale ale for example.


  • #65
    Losty Dublin
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    Baldy Conscience wrote: »
    Re-fill prices will depend on the beer.

    A 7% beer is going to cost more to re-fill than a session 4.5% pale ale for example.

    Don't tell my local in that case. They had a 6%+ beer at €14.50 for 2 litres the other week :)


  • #66
    Arthur Daley
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    Supervalu in pavillions swords has a growler station with two beers. I think there are a few others in large sv stores around dublin, such as blackrock.


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