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"Being a dick"

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  • 20-10-2014 10:38am
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    Lovely Bloke
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    Hi all,

    I've not gotten into trouble, or received an infraction or warning, or anything like that, but it's just a small thing I'm wondering.

    Is it ok for users to use the phrase "Don't be a dick" or "you are being a dick", or "you are being dickish", or other similar phrases, but containing these magic words "Be/Being a Dick"?

    Would they cause an infraction or warning for "Being a dick".

    Is it ok for a Moderator to use a templated insult to tell you to stop insulting people?

    We are all aware, "Don't be a dick" has a special place in Boards.ie Lore, but it is that a one-sided special place?
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    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Baldy Conscience wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I've not gotten into trouble, or received an infraction or warning, or anything like that, but it's just a small thing I'm wondering.

    Is it ok for users to use the phrase "Don't be a dick" or "you are being a dick", or "you are being dickish", or other similar phrases, but containing these magic words "Be/Being a Dick"?

    Would they cause an infraction or warning for "Being a dick".

    Is it ok for a Moderator to use a templated insult to tell you to stop insulting people?

    We are all aware, "Don't be a dick" has a special place in Boards.ie Lore, but it is that a one-sided special place?

    I liken it to calling someone a troll

    Mod says

    Stop acting the dick is = to stop trolling.

    Just my couple of pennies worth.


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    Lovely Bloke
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    yeah fine, but it doesn't really address my overall point.


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    The Hill Billy
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    If you think that someone is being a dick, you should report the post rather than calling them out yourself.

    Edit: So, in that respect, it probably is a bit one-sided, but for a good reason. If posters do it - it is back seat modding & that can disrupt threads/lead to rows.


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    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,418 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Baldy Conscience wrote: »
    yeah fine, but it doesn't really address my overall point.

    If you call me a dick in a thread and i take ofence and report it then i would assume the "attack the post not the poster" rule would apply and it would result in an infraction. If a mod calls me a dick in a thread it's probably because i'm being a dick in the thread and mod is pointing it out.


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    Lovely Bloke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    If you think that someone is being a dick, you should report the post rather than calling them out yourself.

    so in a roundabout way you've told me it's a one-sided affair.

    Mods can do it, and that's ok.


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    The Hill Billy
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    See my edit. :)


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    D
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    Usually the Phrase is used as a rule of thumb about general behaviour that is desirable on the site.

    I do remember, vaguely, that some people have wanted the phrase to be changed to a more professional/civil one.

    "Act in a way that others will perceive to be as beneficial to the site and welcoming and helpful to others." doesn't roll off the tongue.

    I think most people reference it to Will Wheton, however, I know it was used on this site long before he is publicly acknowledged to have used it. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/wheatons-law


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    Mrs OBumble
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    IMHo "being a dick" is right up there with "s/he's sound" in terms of meaning free phrases.

    One person's idea of a dick is another's idea of detail orientation. (A bit like the way that Ireland is the only place I know where being bold, aka brave/courageous, is regarded as a bad thing).

    If I have a problem with someone's behaviour, then I'd rather name the specific behaviour than use a catch-all phrase which, as you say, is actually rude in itself.

    I would always say "being uncivilised" rather than "being a dick".


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    Penn
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    Baldy Conscience wrote: »
    so in a roundabout way you've told me it's a one-sided affair.

    Mods can do it, and that's ok.

    Mods do it in the vein of not actually referring to someone as a dick, but utilising one of the site rules "Dont be a dick" in the context of Wheaton's Law.

    A mod can't flat out call someone a dick during a discussion. A mod enforcing the "Dont be a dick" rule, that's a different case altogether and is based more on the actions of the poster rather than the poster themselves.

    If you think someone is breaking the "Dont be a dick" rule, report them and let the mod deal with it. Calling the poster a dick yourself is both backseat modding and too difficult to distinguish if you're referring to the rule (as you're not a mod) or if you're actually calling the poster a dick.


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    Will I Amnt
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    I've fallen foul of this before, I genuinely thought it was a word that was accepted on here at the time. I told somebody to "try and be less of a dick" if they wanted to continue the conversation. I'm only sorry I didn't say something a bit stronger and got my yellow card's worth :pac:


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    Mrs OBumble
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    Will I Amnt wrote: »
    I'm only sorry I didn't say something a bit stronger and got my yellow card's worth :pac:

    :-)

    I said to someone (who well deserved it, and got banned shortly afterwards) "you're some tulip". Which simply means you're a very different sort of flower. But still it got a yellow.


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    MugMugs
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    Actually, this was done to death and eventually ended up with the closure of an account IIRC
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056986772


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