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Luas vs. Bin Lorry

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    #32
    John R
    Registered Users Posts: 4,107 ✭✭✭John R


    Digital red light cameras at major junctions and all tram crossovers along with 4 penalty points for the offence would soon change the attitude.

    Carrot never works in Ireland, big fúcking stick is always needed to get people to behave.


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    #33
    Poxyshamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Queen St. really does seem to be the Tram/motor vehicle blackspot.


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    #34
    Bee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭Bee


    The crash highlights once again why Dublin should have built an underground rather than a Luas, we should have had eight times the carrying capacity as originally proposed for the underground rather than the farcial Luas system.


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    #35
    MarkoP11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭MarkoP11


    Reason these collisions happen is since motorists for some stupid reason don't observe the rules of the road, motorists think they are special, its not the trams fault its the stupid motorist

    In a collision tram passengers are more likely to be injured not the motorist, sad fact is until someone is killed the typical driver attitude won't change

    A huge array of changes have been made to the traffic light sequencing, they don't restrict cars they slow down the trams or even stop them to give the tram driver a chance to visual confirm the crossings as clear and to add several seconds between the red light and the tram getting the clear, that explains the wildly varying journey times, all these measures are to counteract suicidal motorists to the determent of Luas services.

    Successful proceedings have been taken against numerous red light jumpers and those involved in collisions are treated as any normal road collision and the gardai get involved. Even the most minor collision requires a engineering inspection and that costs and the RPA's insurance isn't paying


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    #36
    Hagar
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    Victor wrote:
    From Paris.
    The licence plate on the wrecked car is a State plate ie the Gendarmerie :D


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    #37
    Huggles
    Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    nagero wrote:
    If that's the Metro's greatest hits then here's the safe version on youtube.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=CV2rdGX4JYc

    Jesus they are all driver side impacts too.....ouch


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    #38
    corktina
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    Bee wrote:
    The crash highlights once again why Dublin should have built an underground rather than a Luas, we should have had eight times the carrying capacity as originally proposed for the underground rather than the farcial Luas system.
    wow....wasnt the LUAS expensive enough for you then?:rolleyes: :)


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    #39
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Photos of the Dice Bar/bin truck/Luas crash...

    http://unarocks.blogspot.com/2007/09/dice-bar-smashy-smashy.html


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    #40
    BendiBus
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    Bee wrote:
    The crash highlights once again why Dublin should have built an underground rather than a Luas,

    No. While there may be many reasons for building an underground, the crash simply highlights crap driving!


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    #41
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Interesting watching that metro video. Most seemed to be nearside blindspot collisions. Obviously the morons driving those cars didn't look at their mirrors and or blindspot. If they can't see a 100 tonne tram how on earth would they see a motorcyclist?


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    #42
    Hagar
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    It's worse than that, they are offside/driver's side. They drive on the right.


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    #43
    BrianD
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    ... plus the liklihood is that they would have passed the tram at some point earlier. Note how long it takes the tram to stop.

    Having said that, I don't believe that the montage would be indicative of what's happening in Dublin as for the most part it seems that the collisions in Dublin are at 90 degrees to the trim at cross roads.


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    #44
    Victor
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    MarkoP11 wrote:
    Successful proceedings have been taken against numerous red light jumpers and those involved in collisions are treated as any normal road collision and the gardai get involved. Even the most minor collision requires a engineering inspection and that costs and the RPA's insurance isn't paying
    Surely it is the offender's insurance should be paying?


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    #45
    Victor
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    MarkoP11 wrote:
    Successful proceedings have been taken against numerous red light jumpers and those involved in collisions are treated as any normal road collision and the gardai get involved. Even the most minor collision requires a engineering inspection and that costs and the RPA's insurance isn't paying
    Surely it is the offender's insurance should be paying?


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    #46
    congo_90
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    ironically my friend's da works for them and knows the driver. apparently his da thinks the luas was at fault somehow :confused::confused: LOL ah well.
    The poor luas. Looks like the pub is gonna need some serious work from lookin at the pics

    quote from friend:

    tomo says:
    hes lyk wdf dat luas is in d rong
    it wuz a fella dat wrks 4 him drivin d truk


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    #47
    Cionnfhaolaidh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Cionnfhaolaidh


    what?


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    #48
    constellation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭constellation


    congo_90 wrote:
    quote from friend:

    tomo says:
    hes lyk wdf dat luas is in d rong
    it wuz a fella dat wrks 4 him drivin d truk

    Translation:
    congo_90 wrote:
    My good friend, Thomas, said to me, "The person driving the Luas was clearly in the wrong. I know this to be true, since the gentleman driving the truck in question is employed by myself. Barkeep! Another glass of Pinot Noir, if you please...."


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    #49
    corktina
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    now dat I do like!!!!

    wheres the ROFL smilie?:)


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    #50
    corktina
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    Victor wrote:
    Surely it is the offender's insurance should be paying?
    absolutely and should be pursued vigourously...might have a chastening effect on all the other chancers then


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    #51
    Hotblack Desiato
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    corktina wrote:
    absolutely and should be pursued vigourously...might have a chastening effect on all the other chancers then
    No it wouldn't, people lose their NCB all the time due to gross stupidity on their part and it doesn't change them. Insurance insulates them too much from the consequences of their actions and we don't enforce our motoring laws vigorously enough even if the accident causes injury (I've been at the receiving end of this personally, other driver was 100% to blame but didn't give a sh*te, the Gardai made noises about dangerous driving charges but never followed through.)

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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