Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

bilston · 08-10-2012 3:54pm

So obviously we're awaiting with bated breath the fitness of Nick Williams. It's potentially a problem for us this weekend as I assume Wilson and Diack are out.

What are our options then if Williams is injured?

One possibility is to move Henry to 8 and play Doyle at 7 so our back row would be Ferris/Doyle/Henry.

Personally I'd be reluctant to move Henry from 7 as he really is such an important player to us. I'd be tempted to shift Fez to No.8 and either move Tuohy to 6 and start Stevenson or in order to avoid too much disruption bring Henderson in at 6.

Is a back row of 6) Henderson 7) Henry 8) Ferris viable in the event of NW being out? The questions being can Henderson cope with the physicality of the HEC so early in his career (I think he can) and would Ferris work at No.8. He played there plenty at age grade level and I think started there for Ulster way back when.

Ironically we could be without our three No.8s this weekend only to find Pedrie Wannenberg lining up at No.8 for Castres...funny how things work out!

thomond2006 · 08-10-2012 6:50pm

Diack played so well in the opening game I wouldn't be worried for Ulster if he was at number eight.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 08-10-2012 6:58pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Diack played so well in the opening game I wouldn't be worried for Ulster if he was at number eight.

Diack is injured at the moment but afaik he is likely to return for next week

Doyle is injured as well and will be out for six weeks

awec · 08-10-2012 8:49pm

bilston wrote: »

You should be able to buy it on-line via SS Moores surely?

Personally I like the black away kit, anyway I think I've mentioned it enough times to the wife to expect it to be on Santa's list this year!

I can buy it online but that's why I'm asking what the fitting is like etc.

Is the 70 quid one the tight stretchy one the players wear?

thomond2006 · 09-10-2012 12:54am

Ferris, Henry, Williams (if fit) with Henderson/Wilson on the bench

If Williams and Wilson are both unavailable, then it will probably be Henderson, Ferris, Henry in that order.

irishbucsfan · 09-10-2012 1:04am

If Williams is out I'd imagine Sean Doyle would play 7.

thomond2006 · 09-10-2012 1:05am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

If Williams is out I'd imagine Sean Doyle would play 7.

Check earlier posts, Doyle is out for six weeks.

irishbucsfan · 09-10-2012 1:10am

Hadn't heard that, Ulster having a tough run in the back row..

Is Ali Birch fit? They might need him on the bench!

bilston · 09-10-2012 7:22am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Hadn't heard that, Ulster having a tough run in the back row..

Is Ali Birch fit? They might need him on the bench!

I think someone said earlier that Diack should be fit for the weekend and that Wilson was due to play for the Ravens in the B & I Cup so it may not be crisis time yet but we'll get a better idea in the next day or two.

Hype710 · 09-10-2012 11:34am

Think you're all forgetting McComish! I reckon he'll start at 7/8 if Williams is out with Henderson on the bench.

thomond2006 · 09-10-2012 2:12pm

FORWARDS (16):
Rob Herring, Rory Best, Nigel Brady,
John Afoa, Tom Court, Adam Macklin, Callum Black,
Johann Muller, Dan Tuohy, Lewis Stevenson, Neil McComb
Stephen Ferris, Mike McComish, Iain Henderson, Chris Henry, Nick Williams.

BACKS (11):
Ruan Pienaar, Paul Marshall, Michael Heaney,
Paddy Jackson,
Paddy Wallace, Darren Cave, Luke Marshall,
Andrew Trimble, Tommy Bowe, Craig Gilroy, Jared Payne

http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/10863.php

the_doctor199 · 10-10-2012 8:10pm

Ulster Rugby today confirmed that Iain Henderson will remain at the club until June 2015 after signing his first full contract...

Link

GerM · 10-10-2012 8:18pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

FORWARDS (16):
Rob Herring, Rory Best, Nigel Brady,
John Afoa, Tom Court, Adam Macklin, Callum Black,
Johann Muller, Dan Tuohy, Lewis Stevenson, Neil McComb
Stephen Ferris, Mike McComish, Iain Henderson, Chris Henry, Nick Williams.

BACKS (11):
Ruan Pienaar, Paul Marshall, Michael Heaney,
Paddy Jackson,
Paddy Wallace, Darren Cave, Luke Marshall,
Andrew Trimble, Tommy Bowe, Craig Gilroy, Jared Payne

Heaney to drop out of the backs and Brady, McComb and Henderson to drop out in the pack pending injuries? Would like to see Henderson to get into the match day squad but can't see it happening based on selections thus far.

thomond2006 · 10-10-2012 8:36pm

the_doctor199 wrote: »

Link

Never in doubt that he was going to get a pro contract but great news nonetheless.

bilston · 10-10-2012 9:40pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

the_doctor199 wrote: »

Link

Never in doubt that he was going to get a pro contract but great news nonetheless.

It's effectively a 3 year contract as well which is unusual for someone coming out of the Academy. Great news.

bilston · 11-10-2012 12:31pm

Team Up:

15 Jared Payne
14 Tommy Bowe
13 Darren Cave
12 Paddy Wallace
11 Andrew Trimble
10 Paddy Jackson
09 Paul Marshall
01 Tom Court
02 Rory Best
03 John Afoa
04 Johann Muller (C)
05 Dan Tuohy
06 Iain Henderson
07 Chris Henry
08 Stephen Ferris

Bench - R Herring, C Black, A Macklin, L Stevenson, M McComish, R Pienaar, L Marshall, C Gilroy.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 11-10-2012 12:55pm

massive game for henderson

shuffol · 11-10-2012 1:00pm

Going by the teamsheet on Ulsterrugby it looks like Ferris is at 8 which I'd agree with, there's a lot of beef and mobility in that backrow, interesting to see how it clicks. Lot of height from 4-8 too. Henry's smallest at 6"3.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 11-10-2012 1:05pm

shuffol wrote: »

Going by the teamsheet on Ulsterrugby it looks like Ferris is at 8 which I'd agree with, there's a lot of beef and mobility in that backrow, interesting to see how it clicks. Lot of height from 4-8 too. Henry's smallest at 6"3.

Ferris and McLoughlin (whose blueprints are still on that team in terms of personal) have both claimed that 6"3 is a sensible minimum height for backrow players.

Personally I wonder what SOB, Wallace ect thought about that claim but its interesting

11-10-2012 1:06pm

**** me what a pack 1-8.

Hands and feet everywhere!

.ak · 11-10-2012 2:42pm

Serious team sheet. Really interested to see Fez running off scrums....

Tox56 · 11-10-2012 2:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

**** me what a pack 1-8.

Hands and feet everywhere!

Not a bad backline either, with Gilroy on the bench

Ulster will be serious contenders this year

totallegend · 11-10-2012 2:48pm

Not their strongest XV with Tekori, Claassen and Kockott on the bench, but still a decent side. Who's yer man at #8?

15. Romain Teulet, 14. Marcel Garvey, 13. Seremaia Bai, 12. Daniel Kirkpatrick, 11. Marc Andreu, 10. Pierre Bernard, 9. Thierry Lacrampe
1. Yannick Forestier, 2. Mathieu Bonello, 3. Michaël Coetzee, 4. Matthias Rolland, 5. Rodrigo Capo Ortega, 6. Piula Faasalele, 7. Yannick Caballero, 8. Pedrie Wannenburg,

16. Marc-Antoine Rallier, 17. Grégory Marmoiton, 18. Mihaïta Lazar, 19. Iosefa Tekori, 20. Antonie Claassen, 21. Rory Kockott, 22. Paul Bonnefond, 23. Thomas Sanchou

.ak · 11-10-2012 3:07pm

Got a feeling this'll be the big scoring game of round 1.

thomond2006 · 11-10-2012 3:40pm

.ak wrote: »

Serious team sheet. Really interested to see Fez running off scrums....

Hook will be on the "Heaslip is ****" boat again with Ferris moved to 8.

Serious team though and great replacements to come on.

ssaye · 11-10-2012 3:56pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Hook will be on the "Heaslip is ****" boat again with Ferris moved to 8.

Serious team though and great replacements to come on.

Heaslip could be 4 stars soon :pac:

irishbucsfan · 11-10-2012 4:21pm

Ferris has played 8 before. Im not expecting much from him there. It's a shame Williams is injured given his form.

ssaye · 11-10-2012 4:23pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Ferris has played 8 before. Im not expecting much from him there. It's a shame Williams is injured given his form.

Williams all round play has been superb. Repeat Final would be savage in the Aviva.

totallegend · 11-10-2012 4:26pm

.ak wrote: »

Got a feeling this'll be the big scoring game of round 1.

As in a big winning margin for Ulster or high-scoring on both sides?

bilston · 11-10-2012 4:42pm

.ak wrote: »

Got a feeling this'll be the big scoring game of round 1.

Yes but the guys who are coming in for Castres will be motivated to do well. This will be a test for Ulster for all sorts of reasons but you'd have to think Ulster should win and probably reasonably comfortably.

mogwai81 · 11-10-2012 8:52pm

I would like to see Gilroy starting ahead of Trimble. Can't wait to see Ferris at 8 and Henderson at 6.

Podge_irl · 11-10-2012 8:55pm

I think Gilroy is the better wing personally, though by no means is that a denigration of Trimble who I think is a good wing. I imagine Gilroy may work his way in by the end of the pool stages.

That is a very, very strong looking team though. If Ulster don't ship many injuries then they will go far.

11-10-2012 9:13pm

Their whole pack can carry ball.

Cpt_Blackbeard · 11-10-2012 10:02pm

I'd genuinely love to see Pienaar, Marshall and Gilroy included in that team. Hopefully we'll see a team like that be first choice by the end of the season. I don't think any of the other provinces could field such an exciting side.

shuffol · 11-10-2012 10:12pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

I think Gilroy is the better wing personally, though by no means is that a denigration of Trimble who I think is a good wing. I imagine Gilroy may work his way in by the end of the pool stages.

That is a very, very strong looking team though. If Ulster don't ship many injuries then they will go far.

Think Gilroy looks more comfortable on the right wing and Bowe wont be shifted from there.

Quint2010 · 11-10-2012 10:34pm

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

I'd genuinely love to see Pienaar, Marshall and Gilroy included in that team. Hopefully we'll see a team like that be first choice by the end of the season. I don't think any of the other provinces could field such an exciting side.

Leinster would give it a good go..:p

thomond2006 · 11-10-2012 11:54pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/19910510

Noice...

duckysauce · 12-10-2012 7:07pm

Ferris is out of tonights match

Hagz · 13-10-2012 6:28pm

Ravens won 49-19 against Bridgend. http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/10877.php

backawaygo onahead · 13-10-2012 6:36pm

Ulster romp Ravens derby:D

backawaygo onahead · 13-10-2012 6:39pm

Quint2010 wrote: »

Leinster would give it a good go..:p

Aye they certainly would but not today - lucky to get the win & a very very dull game.

Munster got off to a flyer, threw it away, won it again & thanks to Murray, lost it ultimately.

Two not very exciting games sadly.

Great win for the Westies - successive HC wins, well done Connacht.

backawaygo onahead · 13-10-2012 11:49pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/19910510

Noice...

I'd love to hear from young Paddy on this. I've seen kickers warming up looking to hit the single post they can see. I'd love to know if this was a freak or if he actually tried it.

One way or another his kicking this season has been such a positive change from his nervous looking kicking last year.

Hats off to the wee ginger, a tough wee nut who tackles above his size and is growing in confidence week after week. Going to be 10 for Ulster for years & who knows beyond that.

danthefan · 13-10-2012 11:56pm

Don't know if he was the first or what but Wilkinson used to practice kicking like that before games. Very impressive from Jackson though.

CatFromHue · 14-10-2012 3:39am

I think it's relatively a standard drill for kicking.

bilston · 14-10-2012 9:43am

CatFromHue wrote: »

I think it's relatively a standard drill for kicking.

That's what I thought. I've sort of been wondering what the big deal has been about this all week! Although in saying that it showdown pinpoint accuracy but I'm imagine most kickers at pro level and even below are capable of it.

Anyway Jackson's goalkicking has been excellent this season so I hope he continues whatever it is he is doing st training.

chris_d · 16-10-2012 1:18pm

Yay Ulster!

Bloody cold on friday night, but Ruan's try was one of the greatest things ever. Silly frenchies.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 16-10-2012 3:09pm

Preliminary squad for Glasgow named

FORWARDS (16):

Rory Best, Rob Herring, Nigel Brady, Callum Black, John Afoa, Tom Court, Adam Macklin, Neil McComb, Dan Tuohy, Lewis Stevenson, Johann Muller, Iain Henderson, Stephen Ferris, Mike McComish, Chris Henry, Nick Williams.

BACKS (12):

Paul Marshall, Ruan Pienaar, Niall O’Connor, Paddy Jackson, Luke Marshall, Paddy Wallace, Darren Cave, Craig Gilroy, Andrew Trimble, Tommy Bowe, Jared Payne.

Nice to see Ferris and Williams back. If one of them make it for the weekend it would be great news.

chris_d · 16-10-2012 3:30pm

Fingers crossed at least one of them comes through the week. Have not seen enough of Ferris this season.

Isnt the Ravenhill development due to start soon? I really hope they dont make a balls of it. I love that place. Have only been on the terrace once or twice since the new stand was put in thanks to the annoying security over there. Prom all the way now.

the_doctor199 · 18-10-2012 11:45am

(15-9): J Payne; T Bowe, D Cave, P Wallace, A Trimble; P Jackson, R Pienaar;
(1-8): T Court, R Best, J Afoa, J Muller (c), D Tuohy, I Henderson, C Henry, N Williams;
Replacements (16-23): R Herring, C Black, A Macklin, L Stevenson, M McComish, P Marshall, L Marshall, C Gilroy.

Good to see Williams has recovered. As much as Pienaar is a fantastic player, a little harsh to drop Marshall after his performance last week.

irishbucsfan · 18-10-2012 11:55am

Yeah I kind've thought Pienaar would be held back a bit. At least Marshall will be able to offer a lot off the bench as usual.

Perhaps they're going to just play him this week and then give him a bit of a break?

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