CL final Juventus - Barcelona 06/06/2015 Berlin

inforfun · 04-06-2015 7:52am #1

Do your worst here.

Offers, thoughts whatever, dump it here so it is all nicely in one place.

2ndcoming · 04-06-2015 10:17am

Anyone know what the max bet is on that new customers offer from PP?

LikeTheseOdds · 04-06-2015 11:14am

2ndcoming wrote: »

Anyone know what the max bet is on that new customers offer from PP?

10. Cash paid out on normal site price, top up in free bets.

2ndcoming · 04-06-2015 11:44am

Dud so.

A_Sober_Paddy · 04-06-2015 11:47am

So has anyone decided on their BET365 strategy for saturday night yet?

2ndcoming · 04-06-2015 12:12pm

Are they doing the 50/50 special?

A_Sober_Paddy · 04-06-2015 12:19pm

2ndcoming wrote: »

Are they doing the 50/50 special?

Yep
http://www.bet365.com/extra/en/promotions/soccer/champions-league-in-play-bet-offer/

Austria! · 04-06-2015 2:01pm

Chiellini's out. How will Juventus line up?

Shane St. · 04-06-2015 2:29pm

Thats a huge blow! Barzagli straight in?
Feel like absolutely lumping on Barca but am weary after the 2012 final

ShamoBuc · 04-06-2015 5:34pm

Thinking of barca to lift the cup at 1/3 pre game as a pretty safe option, finding it very hard to think otherwise.

Barca to score a pen, yes 6/1 is tempting me and Messi motm 7/4 also if I want to gamble.
In play, bit of a minefield of options.

seanhynes · 04-06-2015 5:51pm

I haven't received an email saying they are doing this ,wonder are some accounts excluded

Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 5:51pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Thinking of barca to lift the cup at 1/3 pre game as a pretty safe option, finding it very hard to think otherwise.

Barca to score a pen, yes 6/1 is tempting me and Messi motm 7/4 also if I want to gamble.
In play, bit of a minefield of options.

Think someone said he was 3/1 on BV.

Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 5:58pm

Copy pasted from my post in the other thread:

Bet365: 50 On Over 0.5 goals 1/20
Betfair: 4.43 on 0-0 11/1

loss of 1.88 gain 50 quid free bet

Boyles 50 on Over 0.5 goals 1/16
Betfair 4.38 on 0-0 11/1

Small loss again

Small loss of less than 4 quid to get 75 quid worth of free bets so far.

I've done that on my bonusbagging account.

As for my personnal account. I'll do the same on Bet365 covering with Betfair as I'm working so will miss start of KO so can't arb. Straight away.

On Unibet, as my bonus account is UK based, I can't get the offer. But I can on my Irish account:

Neymar to be offside 2/1 30 quid on that. Will do an inplay on that to.

So I'm looking at having a lot of free bets. Must wait until Friday for payday before I can do the Bet365 cover again tho.

the whole year inn · 04-06-2015 6:05pm

seanhynes wrote: »

I haven't received an email saying they are doing this ,wonder are some accounts excluded

Its on the main site avaliable to everyone.

Both teams to score for me 10/11

free bet not to sure yet maybe juventus hf barca ft,go for the jackpot

Austria! · 04-06-2015 6:16pm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Think someone said he was 3/1 on BV.

and on william hill

seanhynes · 04-06-2015 6:28pm

5/2 now with BV but WH 3s

Rasputin11 · 04-06-2015 8:39pm

Would putting 50 on Barca to lift the trophy at 1/3 and then 50 on Juve to lift the trophy at 12/5 in-play be allowed?

Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 8:40pm

Rasputin11 wrote: »

Would putting 50 on Barca to lift the trophy at 1/3 and then 50 on Juve to lift the trophy at 12/5 in-play be allowed?

Allowed Yes, but easier ways to to arb unless you strongly fancy Juve

A_Sober_Paddy · 04-06-2015 8:44pm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Allowed Yes, but easier ways to to arb unless you strongly fancy Juve

Suggestions?

Crann na Beatha · 04-06-2015 8:45pm

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Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 8:49pm

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Suggestions?

My way above.

Or

50 on Barca pre game returns 80 + 50 = 130
50 on Juve DC in Play 50 returns 115

15 or 30 profit.

Lifting the trophy way is :

Barca Pre game returns 66 + 50 = 116
Juve Lift the trophy = 170

16 or 70 profit

So unless you fancy Juve to lift it, it's better to take Barca pre game(If you think they'll win in 90mins)

Nabber · 04-06-2015 9:10pm

I tend to go with goals odd or even

5/6 -odd
5/6 -even

€41 Gauranteed.

Or goals over 2.5
yes 1.85
no 1.90

ShamoBuc · 04-06-2015 9:15pm

Nabber wrote: »

I tend to go with goals odd or even

5/6 -odd
5/6 -even

€41 Gauranteed.

Or goals over 2.5
yes 1.85
no 1.90

What happens to odd/evenbets if 0-0?

inforfun · 04-06-2015 9:16pm

JT26 wrote: »

What time for those of us not in Europe

You might want to narrow that down a bit...

A_Sober_Paddy · 04-06-2015 9:16pm

Nabber wrote: »

I tend to go with goals odd or even

5/6 -odd
5/6 -even

€41 Gauranteed.

Or goals over 2.5
yes 1.85
no 1.90

thats only 41 profit if your pre game bet comes in, no?

Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 9:18pm

Nabber wrote: »

I tend to go with goals odd or even

5/6 -odd
5/6 -even

€41 Gauranteed.

Or goals over 2.5
yes 1.85
no 1.90

That's not right mate?

Using odds on Bet365 now:

Pre bet on odd 19/20 50 returns 97.50
In Play bet on eve 9/10 50 returns 95

So if the Pre game bet wins you'll get 97.50 + 50 back = 147.50
If In Play bet wins you'll only get the 95 back

So:

Profit: 47.50
Loss: 5

Nabber · 04-06-2015 9:57pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

What happens to odd/evenbets if 0-0?

0 is treated as even

over 2.5 offers marginally better returns

Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 10:01pm

Nabber wrote: »

0 is treated as even

over 2.5 offers marginally better returns

Can you explain how you're getting guaranteed profit from this bet?

Nabber · 04-06-2015 10:33pm

Game has to be over or under 2.5 goals
0 is under 2.5

You put
€50 on over 2.5 @1.85 = €92.50
€50 free bet on under 2.5 @1.90 =€95

Gauranteed at least a €42.50 profit

Its the free bet that makes this a winner. On normal betting you'd lose on this. You'd lose a max of €7.50

***** Only do this with the free bet offer*****

One thing tho, its boring

Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 10:54pm

Nabber wrote: »

Game has to be over or under 2.5 goals
0 is under 2.5

You put
€50 on over 2.5 @1.85 = €92.50
€50 free bet on under 2.5 @1.90 =€95

Gauranteed at least a €42.50 profit

Its the free bet that makes this a winner. On normal betting you'd lose on this. You'd lose a max of €7.50

***** Only do this with the free bet offer*****

One thing tho, its boring

The Bet365 isn't a free bet offer tho. You're staking €100 total.

So you're really losing money on both bets

Nabber · 04-06-2015 10:59pm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

The Bet365 isn't a free bet offer tho. You're staking €100 total.

So you're really losing money on both bets

Thats why i said its only for free offer.

http://www.bet365.com/extra/en/promotions/soccer/champions-league-in-play-bet-offer/

Edit- reply looks a bit blunt. Not intended, on the mobile so short and sweet

Crann na Beatha · 04-06-2015 11:00pm

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Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 11:02pm

Nabber wrote: »

Thats why i said its only for free offer.

http://www.bet365.com/extra/en/promotions/soccer/champions-league-in-play-bet-offer/

Edit- reply looks a bit blunt. Not intended, on the mobile so short and sweet

Didn't take it as blunt mate

But I think your missing the main thing. That's not a free bet. You're staking 50 on 1 bet. And 50 on another. So 100 total Stake.

Nabber · 04-06-2015 11:05pm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

That's not right mate?

Using odds on Bet365 now:

Pre bet on odd 19/20 50 returns 97.50
In Play bet on eve 9/10 50 returns 95

So if the Pre game bet wins you'll get 97.50 + 50 back = 147.50
If In Play bet wins you'll only get the 95 back

So:

Profit: 47.50
Loss: 5

Its only with free offer. I thought this was assumed when looking at it. There is no odds in any bokies where you can win with 0 risk.

So you put €50 pre bet on over 2.5
Then in play free €50 on under 2.5

The free bet makes it a winner...... ONLY THE FREE BET MAKES IT A WINNER

Can't stress that enough.

spock. · 04-06-2015 11:07pm

I'm with Shano on this one. It's not a free bet it's just,a refund if your inplay bet loses.

Nabber · 04-06-2015 11:08pm

I might be making myself look foolish here.
But its the standard inplay €50 bet365 offer?

If the rules on the free bet have changed, then sorry for the time wasting

A_Sober_Paddy · 04-06-2015 11:08pm

Nabber wrote: »

Its only with free offer. I thought this was assumed when looking at it. There is no odds in any bokies where you can win with 0 risk.

So you put €50 pre bet on over 2.5
Then in play free €50 on under 2.5

The free bet makes it a winner...... ONLY THE FREE BET MAKES IT A WINNER

Can't stress that enough.

Just one quick question, are you in fact talking about the bet365 offer?

Nabber · 04-06-2015 11:10pm

spock. wrote: »

I'm with Shano on this one. It's not a free bet it's just,a refund if your inplay bet loses.

Yes but one bet needs to win.......
total cost of your bet is €50 + €50 free

One has to be a winner

Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 11:11pm

Nabber wrote: »

Its only with free offer. I thought this was assumed when looking at it. There is no odds in any bokies where you can win with 0 risk.

So you put €50 pre bet on over 2.5
Then in play free €50 on under 2.5

The free bet makes it a winner...... ONLY THE FREE BET MAKES IT A WINNER

Can't stress that enough.

But there is no free bet. It doesn't exist.

If there was a free bet you'd only need €50 in your account.

For Example.

Bet 50 get a free 50 offer.

Stake 50 on Over 2.5.
Stake the Free 50 on Under 2.5

Then yes you 100% profit the €40 odd quid.

But in this case it's

Bet 50 pre game and BET ANOTHER 50 in play and get a refund on the inplay bet if it loses.

So you need a total of €100 in order to take advantage of this.

You're system only works if the Pre Game bet wins.

A_Sober_Paddy · 04-06-2015 11:13pm

Nabber wrote: »

Yes but one bet needs to win.......
total cost of your bet is €50 + €50 free

One has to be a winner

Ok fair enough...There is a way of betting on this offer that guarentees profit no matter the outcome...

The second €50 isn't free...

The offer works

bet 50€ pre game and Bet365 will allow you to bet 50€ in play, this in play bet is refunded if its a loser...

You bet a total of 100€...They don't give you a free bet token when you place a 50€ pre game bet

Nabber · 04-06-2015 11:13pm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

But there is no free bet. It doesn't exist.

If there was a free bet you'd only need €50 in your account.

For Example.

Bet 50 get a free 50 offer.

Stake 50 on Over 2.5.
Stake the Free 50 on Under 2.5

Then yes you 100% profit the €40 odd quid.

But in this case it's

Bet 50 pre game and BET ANOTHER 50 in play and get a refund on the inplay bet if it loses.

So you need a total of €100 in order to take advantage of this.

You're system only works if the Pre Game bet wins.

I'm the fool

Shanotheslayer · 04-06-2015 11:15pm

Nabber wrote: »

I'm the fool

Haha. Glad I could help mate

retalivity · 04-06-2015 11:24pm

If youre lookimg to ARB with 2 even amounta for both outcomes, find a line at odds roumd 1.5 for the Pre match bet. The opposite is usually around 2.5, stick the inplay on that.
100 staked
If Pre match wins, 50x1.5=75 + 50 refund = 125 or 25 profit
If in play wins 50x2.5=125 or 25 profit.

Tweak the lines as needed if yoi favour one over the other, I.e. riskier in play bet at longer odds

Shane St. · 04-06-2015 11:28pm

Feels like we're going slighty OT trying to take advantage of bet offers.
Anyways....

paulb06 · 04-06-2015 11:41pm

Really like Juve over 1.5 team cards 5/6 as my pre match bet. Then maybe Messi 2 or more 4/1 or Neymar 2 or more 9/1 as my in play.

Want to try take advantage of the free in play offer rather than just locking in 15/20 euro profit.

Free €50 bet at the end of the day.

Rasputin11 · 04-06-2015 11:46pm

paulb06 wrote: »

Really like Juve over 1.5 team cards 5/6 as my pre match bet. Then maybe Messi 2 or more 4/1 or Neymar 2 or more 9/1 as my in play.

Want to try take advantage of the free in play offer rather than just locking in 15/20 euro profit.

Free €50 bet at the end of the day.

They are over 2.5 at 5/6, 1.5 at 5/6 would've been nice.

TheQuietFella · 04-06-2015 11:49pm

Juventus are 18/1 to win AET. A bet in my view worth looking at!

paulb06 · 05-06-2015 12:00am

Rasputin11 wrote: »

They are over 2.5 at 5/6, 1.5 at 5/6 would've been nice.

Ah sorry I just assumed Barcelona were the home team for the betting. Did seem too good to be true!

Still Barca over 1.5 cards still quite good but not as good as Juves chances!

SteelyDanJalapeno · 05-06-2015 12:13am

from personal opinion, you shouldnt betting any more than entertainment money on this game, it's gonna be the best priced game of the year, no edge.

Austria! · 05-06-2015 12:19am

TiltedBrain wrote: »

from personal opinion, you shouldnt betting any more than entertainment money on this game, it's gonna be the best priced game of the year, no edge.

In big markets maybe. I note Messi is now best price 3.5 for MOTM after being 4 with two firms. The final throws up lots of strange bets. I put 500 on the amount of passes a player would make in the final before and it sailed in because it was a crazy price.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 05-06-2015 12:21am

Austria! wrote: »

In big markets maybe. I note Messi is now best price 3.5 for MOTM after being 4 with two firms. The final throws up lots of strange bets. I put 500 on the amount of passes a player would make in the final before and it sailed in because it was a crazy price.

Yeah if you can find a bet no too many books are running with, then there will be something.

Possession used to be good, but I presume Barce will be close to 58% for this now.

CL final Juventus - Barcelona 06/06/2015 Berlin

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