Rowdy Ronda

rain on · 20-02-2013 11:42am

Roar wrote: »

her diet sounds horrible though

I did a double take at that bit - one meal a day to sustain that level of training? No wonder she's always cranky. I'm assuming there's protein shakes and suchlike going on throughout the day.

JJayoo · 20-02-2013 2:53pm

How many strikes has Ronda landed in her MMA career?

El Guapo! · 20-02-2013 3:09pm

JJayoo wrote: »

How many strikes has Ronda landed in her MMA career?

I don't know that figure but she has a 60% striking accuracy in her career so far.

EDIT; From what I can work out from FightMetric she has thrown 62 total strikes in her career and landed 60% of that.

magic_murph · 20-02-2013 4:21pm

Something I have noticed across MMA is that fighters that are new to contact sport are at a disadvantage to those who have been training & sparin for years.
I think you can train to be the best a jujitsu, wrestling, boxing etc but the one thing you can really teach, in a short period of time is the ability to get punched in the face and keep moving forward - I think it's just a natural reaction to cover up retreat.
Brock lesner for example - a beats of a man that had the potential to do good things, but once he got cliped, in the face his first reaction was to cover up, granted he was getting hit by beasts at the time.
Against carwin he didn't really have much choice as he was pinned to the ground but against Cain & Overeem he was on the back foot.
I am looking forward to see how Ronda reacts when she gets clipped.
I think she is a fantasic athlete and has great ground skils but just wonder if all that will go out the window if she get's hit cleanly.
Not knocking any fighter its just something I have noticed with fighters new to MMA.

I mean if you are sparing full contact since a toung age then getting hit is the norm.
For brock & rhonda, they have been training for years but not full contact - that has to be a bit of a disadvantage?

DrPhilG · 20-02-2013 4:29pm

Ronda is sparring with some high level women boxers at least, should prepare her well.

Mr. CooL ICE · 20-02-2013 4:31pm

You make good points, but I don't think they really applies to Ronda. In her fights versus Julia Budd and Miesha Tate, she got clipped but held her composure pretty well. Against Budd, she shook off the strikes and jabbed her way to a clinch position, but clinched more easily against Tate whose strikes were more like random arms flailing.

magic_murph · 20-02-2013 4:42pm

Fair points - I guess it was more a general comment.
Like all new fighters that burst onto the scene you want to see they well and truly tested before people start attaching - best pound of pound fighter in the world, best person ever in UFC history ( Something that goldberg does - this was the best fight in history, these are the brightest light bulbs ever used in UFC history, This is the most history made in one night in UFC history bla bla bla )

Hopefully it's a good fight, I don't think it will be as one sided as people think

Be like Nutella · 20-02-2013 4:50pm

If Ronda charges directly at her straight away and gets her to the fence she'll get the take down and she won't be swept and that's the fight over IMO... she's too strong and her judo base is incredible. She might try and stand to show off some striking but that wouldn't be a good idea - don't fix it if it ain't broke. Takedown to G'n'P to armbar first 2 mins.

rain on · 20-02-2013 5:09pm

I thought Sarah Kaufman who has a rake of (T)KO wins might be able to put Rousey on the back foot for a small while but I was totally wrong, I don't see this fight going much different either. If Miesha Tate gets past Cat Zingano then a Tate-Rousey rematch might go to the second round...might. Sara McMann is the most intriguing match-up for her IMO - ADCC silver medal, Olympic wrestling silver medal and a 6-0 MMA record. You have to have grappling credentials to be able to take on Rousey I reckon because she will just walk through strikes and clinch with you.

riffmongous · 20-02-2013 6:54pm

rain on wrote: »

I thought Sarah Kaufman who has a rake of (T)KO wins might be able to put Rousey on the back foot for a small while but I was totally wrong, I don't see this fight going much different either. If Miesha Tate gets past Cat Zingano then a Tate-Rousey rematch might go to the second round...might. Sara McMann is the most intriguing match-up for her IMO - ADCC silver medal, Olympic wrestling silver medal and a 6-0 MMA record. You have to have grappling credentials to be able to take on Rousey I reckon because she will just walk through strikes and clinch with you.

Yeah an olympian duel would be awesome in terms of hype, and in seeing Rousey up against someone she cant take down so easily.

I'd also still like to see a Cyborg fight to see how she would fair against someone who's strikes she couldnt just walk through

JJayoo · 20-02-2013 8:56pm

rain on wrote: »

I thought Sarah Kaufman who has a rake of (T)KO wins might be able to put Rousey on the back foot for a small while but I was totally wrong, I don't see this fight going much different either. If Miesha Tate gets past Cat Zingano then a Tate-Rousey rematch might go to the second round...might. Sara McMann is the most intriguing match-up for her IMO - ADCC silver medal, Olympic wrestling silver medal and a 6-0 MMA record. You have to have grappling credentials to be able to take on Rousey I reckon because she will just walk through strikes and clinch with you.

Rousey as a submission specialist would destroy McMann as a control specialist.
The thing I like about Rousey is that her standup will continue to improve.

I like this breakdown it really shows the total control Ronda had in applying the armbar. (Starts at 3.14)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XqV9TIVkDY

Morph the Cat · 22-02-2013 9:29am

Re: the amount of web traffic Ronda Rousey is drawing.
She is just a step below Manny Pacquiao (who is the king of web traffic in sports) and Floyd Mayweather, and the same as Brock Lesnar at his UFC peak.

Source: Dave Meltzer / f4wonline.com

--You know things have gotten out of hand when the press release for Friday night's Showtime boxing card (Art Hovhannisyan vs. Alejandro Perez main event) is all about Ronda Rousey. The story is that Rousey would like to be at the show, because Hovhannisyan trains at the same gym she trains boxing at, but she can't because she's got a fight the next day.

For those idiots that want this to fail - sorry - ain't gonna happen. The press behind this fight is huge.

welkin · 22-02-2013 12:02pm

Lads Dana white really needs to go.

Putting this freak-show as headliner in front of two absolute legendary fighters like Machida and Hendo.

He's murdering the sport of MMA with his bull****. Jon Fitch, Chael Sonnen, undercard fighters salaries, slap on the wrist for doping offences, Metro PCS and all the other product placement.
This is the pinicle of FIGHTING not a bloody circus.

I know it's a business but if the business doesn't have integrity then it's days are numbered.
People are already getting sick of this ****.

Niall0 · 22-02-2013 12:07pm

Your being silly, stop being silly.

Morph the Cat · 22-02-2013 12:36pm

welkin wrote: »

Lads Dana white really needs to go.

Putting this freak-show as headliner in front of two absolute legendary fighters like Machida and Hendo.

He's murdering the sport of MMA with his bull****. Jon Fitch, Chael Sonnen, undercard fighters salaries, slap on the wrist for doping offences, Metro PCS and all the other product placement.
This is the pinicle of FIGHTING not a bloody circus.

I know it's a business but if the business doesn't have integrity then it's days are numbered.
People are already getting sick of this ****.

Troll is so subtle... :rolleyes:

Morph the Cat · 22-02-2013 2:52pm

welkin wrote: »

freak-show

circus.

These are the same words that idiot conservative politicians used to use about the entire sport in the 90's when trying to get it banned. And now you use them in reference to women's MMA. :rolleyes:

cowzerp · 22-02-2013 3:12pm

Morph the Cat wrote: »

These are the same words that idiot conservative politicians used to use about the entire sport in the 90's when trying to get it banned. And now you use them in reference to women's MMA. :rolleyes:

The fight is way below the level of the Machida v Hendo fight so I'm surprised more are not saying that the lady fight should be further down the card.

Certainly shouldn't be the main event.

rain on · 22-02-2013 3:20pm

cowzerp wrote: »

The fight is way below the level of the Machida v Hendo fight so I'm surprised more are not saying that the lady fight should be further down the card.

Certainly shouldn't be the main event.

If it wasn't a title fight it would be further down the card. But title fights headline, them's the breaks.

Shazbot · 22-02-2013 3:21pm

cowzerp wrote: »

The fight is way below the level of the Machida v Hendo fight so I'm surprised more are not saying that the lady fight should be further down the card.

Certainly shouldn't be the main event.

If it was the first womens fight in the UFC then it should have been co-main event. The fact it's a title fight is the only reason it's the main event. There couldn't be a title fight without it been the main event. The only times I can remember a title fight being the co-main event was Johnson Vs Benevidez and GSP vs Alves but those cards had Bones vs Belfort and Brock vs Mir as title fights too.

Morph the Cat · 22-02-2013 3:23pm

cowzerp wrote: »

The fight is way below the level of the Machida v Hendo fight so I'm surprised more are not saying that the lady fight should be further down the card.

Certainly shouldn't be the main event.

What are you basing that on though? Your opinion, or how it will draw - which is all that matters. It's already done more at the gate than the last time they were there for Cain vs. JDS.

El Guapo! · 22-02-2013 3:27pm

Lets face it, the only reason it's the main event is because its Rousey. The UFC want to push her as much as they possibly can. If it was any other 2 women fighting for the title, it certainly wouldn't be the main event.......at least not on this card anyway. They might have stuck it as the main event on a slightly weaker FX card, not when they have Machida v Hendo on the same night.

Be like Nutella · 22-02-2013 3:28pm

Sherdog

Pros Picking Henderson: 18
Pros Picking Machida: 13
No Pick: 6

Can't believe Dan still has experts thinkin he'll beat top drawer guys like Machida.... Dan is such a legend to be fighting at that level at 42 years of age... incredible. I still think Machida stops him though - too quick too smart

Chewabacca · 23-02-2013 12:31am

Anyone else think Ronda is being really cheap by calling out Cyborg and insult her?

She's going out calling her silly names like "Cryborg". Cyborg has a hard time making 145, you can't expect her to make 135. If Ronda wants to fight her so much then she should stop talking and move up a weight.

Be like Nutella · 23-02-2013 12:40am

just do a catch weight fight at 140 and give her time to come down smartly... end of argument

unknown13 · 23-02-2013 5:54pm

Be like Nutella wrote: »

Sherdog

Pros Picking Henderson: 18
Pros Picking Machida: 13
No Pick: 6

Can't believe Dan still has experts thinkin he'll beat top drawer guys like Machida.... Dan is such a legend to be fighting at that level at 42 years of age... incredible. I still think Machida stops him though - too quick too smart

Its a close fight but Henderson will not be stopped. Machida may have some power but Henderson's chin is the best in mma.

adamski8 · 23-02-2013 6:24pm

unknown13 wrote: »

Its a close fight but Henderson will not be stopped. Machida may have some power but Henderson's chin is the best in mma.

Maybe not a KO but i think its likely the ref will stop it!

riffmongous · 24-02-2013 1:30am

Chewabacca wrote: »

Anyone else think Ronda is being really cheap by calling out Cyborg and insult her?

She's going out calling her silly names like "Cryborg". Cyborg has a hard time making 145, you can't expect her to make 135. If Ronda wants to fight her so much then she should stop talking and move up a weight.

Yeah I saw that and thought it made her sound like an ass, calling someone out and expecting them to move is rediculous.

Also I see there is a guy called Brock Jardine fighting later, I am not really sure what to expect there

RoboRat · 24-02-2013 6:35pm

Right, so I have to admit that was worth the top billing and was an excellent fight, IMO it was between Rousey and Faber for the best performance of the night.

If the womens fights stay at that level then I hope that I have to eat humble pie but I still stand by my view that there isn't and won't be the interest to have a big enough pool of fighters,... but I was wrong about the level and saying that it wasn't going to be exciting and I am big enough to admit it.

Morph the Cat · 24-02-2013 11:31pm

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/2/24/4023704/dana-white-ufc-157-post-fight-scrum-video

The first 30 seconds applies to all the naysayers.

Morph the Cat · 25-02-2013 10:36am

RoboRat wrote: »

Right, so I have to admit that was worth the top billing and was an excellent fight, IMO it was between Rousey and Faber for the best performance of the night.

If the womens fights stay at that level then I hope that I have to eat humble pie but I still stand by my view that there isn't and won't be the interest to have a big enough pool of fighters,... but I was wrong about the level and saying that it wasn't going to be exciting and I am big enough to admit it.

I half applaud your post, because it's hard not to admit you were wrong when presented with that show; you'd look like a mentaller sherdogger if you tried to claim otherwise. The performances spoke for themselves - as did the crowd reaction, the fact they sold out (they outdrew Brock vs Cain in the same building), and the fact that this fight had more mainstream publicity going into it than any UFC fight in history. It's the first MMA article on TheJournal too (as far as I know).
So yeah; fair play for admitting you were wrong, but it's not as if you could still keep making your claims with a straight face after this show.

I'm just glad you & other naysayers (the so-called "hardcore" MMA fans) aren't running any sort of fight-promotion business, because you'd be missing the whole point of it - "business". You'd probably have put GSP against Hendrix because of rankings, instead of the Diaz fight which will do far more buys. And you likely wouldn't have given Lesnar his title shot against Randy either, because he didn't "earn" it. Same with Chael vs Jones. I can only imagine the amount of money you (and other "hardcore" know-it-all fans like you) would have thrown away if you were in charge. But luckily you're not. Because you don't get it. You know want you want to see - but you'll watch the show either way; all the "hardcore" fans will, despite their bitching. It's what the general public and the casual fans want to see that matters - because they're the difference between 300k buys and 1m buys - they want characters, they want grudges, and they want compelling stories; or quite simply; a reason to watch. Just having the champion vs #1 contender doesn't cut it in the fight business and never has.

I am big enough to admit it.

That's for others to decide, but thanks for letting us know how big you are - very noble of you.

RoboRat wrote: »

I still stand by my view that there isn't and won't be the interest to have a big enough pool of fighters,...

You're looking at it from the wrong angle though - it's not whether "the women's division" will draw. It's individual fighters that draw, period. Personalities that the public either love or hate; Brock, Tito, Chuck, Nick Diaz, BJ, GSP, Rhonda, Sakuraba, Frank Shamrock, Rampage, Chael - these are the guys that draw (or drew) the numbers. And on that basis, Rhonda will draw. I'm not saying the women will draw - but Rhonda will.

Rowdy Ronda

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