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Audi Dealer Discount?

  • 29-02-2012 8:31pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭


    Planning to buy a new a6 Avant in the next few weeks, Its Coming in at 53500 Sline Extra's Etc, its a Straight Cash sale and i'm wondering what kinda discount I should be expecting(my first time buying new car) I was looking into buying a A4 before it was coming in at 48k and they were giving 1600k discount, they said that Audi have brought down there prices to reflect the current climate so not as much room for reduction...

    Advice.?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Shop around several dealers for the best discount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    I assume i can Ring around i don't actually have to go into the dealers as there is only 2 in Cork and i'd have to travel to Dublin and the likes....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Some will be reluctant to talk money over the phone, but if you give them to understand that you're serious then you should get a price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    Excellent, Thanks for the Reply...

    Anan1 wrote: »
    Some will be reluctant to talk money over the phone, but if you give them to understand that you're serious then you should get a price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭Limbo123


    I assume i can Ring around i don't actually have to go into the dealers as there is only 2 in Cork and i'd have to travel to Dublin and the likes....

    If I was spending that type of money, I'd fill my motor up and go on a road trip to a good few dealers regardless of their geographical location around the country.

    In fairness, the money you could save yourself fair outweighs the hassle of a day trip to Dublin return. You could save €000's if you do the leg work unless you have the money to burn?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    53k is a lot of brass for a A4 imo. Would you consider going to to the UK and buying a year old car for less money. Personally I would save 20k and buy a Superb Elegance Combi with all the toys..:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭Limbo123


    Also, you need to play one dealer off against the other. If you have the gift of the gab, it will work in your favour.

    Just remember, it's a buyers Market out there and in a recession not many people have €50k + to be shelling out on a motor. The dealers should be on their knees ready and waiting to blow you for that type of custom.

    Hold out for the best deal for you. Also, wait till the last week of the month........ The dealers have targets and will be more prone to bend over backwards to accommodate you on a deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    53k is a lot of brass for a A4 imo. Would you consider going to to the UK and buying a year old car for less money. Personally I would save 20k and buy a Superb Elegance Combi with all the toys..:)

    OP is looking for an A6.

    OP, did you see the recent thread (on phone, so a pita to link) about the pedals being in an awkward position (for them, at least), as a result of RHD conversion? Make sure you have a nice long test drive when you're dropping that kind of wonga.

    Edit: never mind, I went looking for the thread and saw your post on it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    Thanks For all the replies,Also With regards ordering at the end of the month..I would have the gift of the gab when it comes to something i know about hence why i'm trying to get to know the dealings..Something thats annoying me is in Uk the a6 comes with Sat Nav as standard yet its almost 3k extra over here.Don't have that much money to burn..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    53k is a lot of brass for a A4 imo. Would you consider going to to the UK and buying a year old car for less money. Personally I would save 20k and buy a Superb Elegance Combi with all the toys..:)

    NOT EVERYONE WANTS A F*CKING SKODA

    simpsons-maggie-makes-three-4.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    Nothing against Skoda's My Father has a New Superb find it a great car, MySelf and my Fiance are just looking at buying a good size family car/Safe etc for the longtime investment......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Gophur


    Nothing against Skoda's My Father has a New Superb find it a great car, MySelf and my Fiance are just looking at buying a good size family car/Safe etc for the longtime investment......

    Last time I toured the Audi dealers I was quoted identical prices by six dealers, a wholesome illegal practise.

    Best of luck with the car but an investment it most certainly is not.

    w.r.t. the Skoda, you could get a new Golf AND the Superb Combi for the price of the A6.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Nothing against Skoda's My Father has a New Superb find it a great car, MySelf and my Fiance are just looking at buying a good size family car/Safe etc for the longtime investment......

    Sorry I wasnt reading the thread correctly.:). They are a beautiful looking car especially with the Xenons. Have you priced one in the UK???


  • Site Banned Posts: 76 ✭✭RXMPS


    Two of those A6's as company cars where I work, stunning looking machines inside and out.

    You have to go with the 3.0TDI V6.

    It's pointless otherwise, might as well get an A4.


  • Site Banned Posts: 76 ✭✭RXMPS


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Sorry I wasnt reading the thread correctly.:). They are a beautiful looking car especially with the Xenons. Have you priced one in the UK???

    That's true.

    With the new VRT law it could work alot cheaper and you could get the 3.0TDI:D


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Nothing against Skoda's My Father has a New Superb find it a great car, MySelf and my Fiance are just looking at buying a good size family car/Safe etc for the longtime investment......

    Fair play for having the confidence to spend €50,000+ on a new Audi.

    As an investment though it'll be spectacularly awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Are you registered for vat dan??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    No I'm not registered for Vat, And the Use of Investment is a wrong word.And Why so with the 3.0tdi? the 2.0 has a 177bhp engine...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    also Reason i'm going with the A6 over A4 is the A4 143bhp was costing about 47k incl audi discount the a6 is costing 51500k incl audi discount for 4500k seems to be well worth the money over the a4? No?


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,592 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    A6 is definitely better value, you will struggle for any kind of decent discount though since its a brand new model. Dealers make about 8%, they can afford to give you the 4 or 5 quite easily but probably don't have to to shift their allocation at the moment.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    also Reason i'm going with the A6 over A4 is the A4 143bhp was costing about 47k incl audi discount the a6 is costing 51500k incl audi discount for 4500k seems to be well worth the money over the a4? No?

    The 3.0 has the quattro which is probably out of budget for you. I had a quick look and a year old Quattro SE spec is about 34k pounds. I think you are right to get the A6.


  • Site Banned Posts: 76 ✭✭RXMPS


    No I'm not registered for Vat, And the Use of Investment is a wrong word.And Why so with the 3.0tdi? the 2.0 has a 177bhp engine...

    Nothing wrong with 2.0tdi, but the 3.0tdi just gives off a nicer vibe/feel.

    It's effortless power, refined, muscular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    Completely off topic but does anyone recommend any Audi Extra which they can't live without which is worth getting, My Partner has Insisted on getting the Walnut Wood(900) and adding lighting package(300euro). Anything worth considering? #personal choice i know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    RXMPS wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with 2.0tdi, but the 3.0tdi just gives off a nicer vibe/feel.

    It's effortless power, refined, muscular.

    If i has my way id be getting a s6 :S


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Completely off topic but does anyone recommend any Audi Extra which they can't live without which is worth getting, My Partner has Insisted on getting the Walnut Wood(900) and adding lighting package(300euro). Anything worth considering? #personal choice i know

    Xenons??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Xenons??

    Incl in S-line already


  • Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭murphm45


    For what it's worth (which is probably very liitle) I got a new VW earlier and in any of the garages i asked what discount was going i was told and amount that came to c. 6%. All without fail gave me more or less the exact same number, and one guy actually told me it was 6%! Given they're part of the same group i'd be surprised if you get any more but you should get at least this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Incl in S-line already

    I think the timber trim is a bit old and dreary in this day and age. It always reminds me of old Rovers for some reason. Whats in the Lighting pack?? Known Audi probably a torch in the boot for 300 quid..:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    Audi in cork were giving 3% When my partner was going buying a a1(since decided on a mini as worked out cheaper) say price was 21300, the lady would not give me the 300euro off! Straight cash deal also...I Looked at her was like your really going to let this deal fail for 300 euro....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    Lights under door handles, Under foot wells and side trim etc, you actually get quite abit of light for 300euro.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Lights under door handles, Under foot wells and side trim etc, you actually get quite abit of light for 300euro.....

    Thats a nice feature actually. Did you price Newmarket I see they are still selling new Audis. There is a guy that posts here called Redorhead I am sure he works for Audi or some garage. It might be worth your while sending him a PM..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭pippip


    If you find that the discount is generally the same i.e. 6% just start going in saying you have already agreed 7% elsewhere but you're just shopping round. Once you get 7% move to 8% on the next garage. They may be all under the same corporation but they all have different overheads the need to meet.

    Brother in law saved a fortune on an avensis years ago with this method.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Completely off topic but does anyone recommend any Audi Extra which they can't live without which is worth getting, My Partner has Insisted on getting the Walnut Wood(900) and adding lighting package(300euro). Anything worth considering? #personal choice i know
    Heated seats would be a must-have for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Heated seats would be a must-have for me.

    They will be standard unless of course he wants the rear ones heated..:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    I forgot to post the main reason I replied to this thread :)
    I was offered between 1.5 and 2K off a car costing half the price of the A6 for a cash deal, so 3-4k isn't out of the bounds of reasonableness. (Unless demand is particularly strong?)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    When I was in my previous job, one of my contractors bought a new A4 sportline (or whatever) from O'Connors in Blackwater in Wexford. O'Connors are not a main dealer but they bought the car directly from Tom Murphy in Waterford and the warranty was maintained. Anyway, he saved several thousand by buying it through O'Connors rather than direct from Tom Murphy. Since then, there's a new Audi garage in Enniscorthy and Tom Murphy no longer has the Audi dealership, so maybe its not an option any more but maybe its worth a call?

    BTW - standard disclaimer - I'm in no way connected with them. Visited there once to look at a second-hand car, didn't buy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    Automatic gearbox, you will live to regret the manual on a diesel imo, the clutchs as they wear on them weight up. Also diesel power doesnt favour a manual at all.
    Id be careful though multitronic audi autos are known as multitragic by many.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    so does dealer back amount for anything nowaday, say you save 500 and buy the car in dublin, needs some warranty work done after say 6 months and you take it to the local audi dealer as they are obliged to fix it. I can guarantee you that there will be no serious rush to get your motor up and going again. Would you if you were in their position


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭daRobot


    Just want to throw this out as an option aswell Dan:

    2010 Audi A8 3.0 TDI (New model)

    http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3591433.htm

    With hard haggling you might get 2k off the price, and an extra years warranty included as it's an approved used Audi

    That'd be 38k Euro pre vrt

    Vrt at 15k. C02 rating on the car is 174g so enter that when you're checking as the price originally quoted 224g which is wrong.

    So that's approx 53k landed for a flagship A8 with a 3.0tdi engine, and 670 euro a year to tax.

    It's already had a huge chunk of the depreciation taken off it, and it's a vastly superior car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    so does dealer back amount for anything nowaday, say you save 500 and buy the car in dublin, needs some warranty work done after say 6 months and you take it to the local audi dealer as they are obliged to fix it. I can guarantee you that there will be no serious rush to get your motor up and going again. Would you if you were in their position

    If I was an authorised Audi Service Centre why would I take my time to fix a problem if the car is under Audi's warranty? It's paid work. Why would you even bother deliberately taking your time fixing a car and have it lying around your place of business in the way? To p1ss off the customer because they didn't buy from you?

    I'd imagine the dealer would have much better things to do with their time rather than place childish games.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    For 53k, if I were in your shoes and was looking at an A6, the only 2 extra's worth getting are the V6 and quattro. The 3 litre TDI doesn't come as standard with quattro anymore, but you can get the 3 litre TDI quattro with s-tronic gearbox for 54,400. That's where I'd be heading. Forget S-Line, unless you want to add another 4k onto that, but spending 53k and only getting a 4 cylinder front wheel drive is like shooting myself in the foot!
    Buy the 204bhp 3 litre quattro, remap it in about a year! Drive happily, rain or snow!
    You're wise to go for the A6, the A4 is a waste of money, even at 36 grand, let alone 48k!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,384 ✭✭✭pred racer


    Lights under door handles, Under foot wells and side trim etc, you actually get quite abit of light for 300euro.....

    You mean the same lights you get in a citroen.....for nothing ;)

    Anyway back on topic. Have you rang Al Hayes (vw/audi)he was always well known for how cheap he was for new cars. (after sales is a different matter, but im sure you would be going to your local dealer anyway)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭bazzachazza


    A dealer offering NO discount is committing suicide in this current climate especially on a cash deal. More than likely the sales rep was either hard bargaining hoping you are naive and accept their bull based on this is a new car and lots of people are looking for them.

    The 6 is a lovely car and the 2.0 TDI is a great engine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    For 53k, if I were in your shoes and was looking at an A6, the only 2 extra's worth getting are the V6 and quattro. The 3 litre TDI doesn't come as standard with quattro anymore, but you can get the 3 litre TDI quattro with s-tronic gearbox for 54,400. That's where I'd be heading. Forget S-Line, unless you want to add another 4k onto that, but spending 53k and only getting a 4 cylinder front wheel drive is like shooting myself in the foot!
    Buy the 204bhp 3 litre quattro, remap it in about a year! Drive happily, rain or snow!
    You're wise to go for the A6, the A4 is a waste of money, even at 36 grand, let alone 48k!!

    Sounds like a better plan to me, the 2l manual A6 is a waste of money, if you want to enjoy it get the 3l tdi dsg(s tronic).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭pburns


    All these people advising the 3.0V6...do you care to put your money where your mouth is? I despair of the Paddy-spec phenomenon but the A6 is one car that has decent power and is pretty well equipped in standard form. I guess the 5 series is similar - hence why there are so many about.

    Of course we'd all prefer a nice V6 but even with low CO2/VRT it's still a hefty price difference. I think the A6 is the best Audi saloon in years TBH and if I had the spare cash a 3.0 Quattro would be on a very short list as an everyday car. But 177bhp in standard format, in a car with many light alloy body components is a pretty good real-world deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,268 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Planning to buy a new a6 Avant in the next few weeks, Its Coming in at 53500 Sline Extra's Etc, its a Straight Cash sale and i'm wondering what kinda discount I should be expecting(my first time buying new car) I was looking into buying a A4 before it was coming in at 48k and they were giving 1600k discount, they said that Audi have brought down there prices to reflect the current climate so not as much room for reduction...

    Advice.?

    There is much more room for movement on price on a used car, as far as I know dealer makes between 4% & 7% on a new car sale which isn't a huge margin to be giving decent discounts on but I'd definatley shop around considering the amount you plan to spend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    pburns wrote: »
    All these people advising the 3.0V6...do you care to put your money where your mouth is? I despair of the Paddy-spec phenomenon but the A6 is one car that has decent power and is pretty well equipped in standard form. I guess the 5 series is similar - hence why there are so many about.

    Of course we'd all prefer a nice V6 but even with low CO2/VRT it's still a hefty price difference. I think the A6 is the best Audi saloon in years TBH and if I had the spare cash a 3.0 Quattro would be on a very short list as an everyday car. But 177bhp in standard format, in a car with many light alloy body components is a pretty good real-world deal.

    Big difference between manual and auto and for some reason the dsg gearbox is only available on the 3l quattro so I see no other option :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭bazzachazza


    All these people advising the 3.0V6...do you care to put your money where your mouth is? I despair of the Paddy-spec phenomenon but the A6 is one car that has decent power and is pretty well equipped in standard form.

    I agree with the first part and disagree with the second part. "Paddy spec" in most cases these people are putting their money where their mouth is and buying the car new, the people who shoot off with "Paddy-spec" are the ones who will never buy those types of car new and can generally only afford them second hand years later. I never seen anybody respond with "Hey paddy spec have a look at my new spec'd up A6 3.0 tdi V6 or 530d".

    To those people who are suggesting to the OP about second hand cars how about you reread his First and subsequent posts and actually see what he wants and why.

    To those suggesting the OP buy the 3.0 V6 STOP you are telling him to spend an extra €11000 to satisfy your wants NOT his. When it's your money to spend you go out and buy whatever you want.

    OP I got 5-6% discount 3 years ago without trying. You will find it hard to get a set figure till you are about to hand over your money. They will try and wriggle for ages without committing until it's too late for you and you can't back out sly I know but they want the sale (my recent experience in one Audi dealer).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭bazzachazza


    Sorry Off Topic I know but

    "Paddy-spec" now available in

    Germany http://www.audi.de/de/brand/de/neuwagen/a6/a6_limousine/informieren/Katalog_und_Preisliste.html

    France http://www.audi.fr/fr/brand/fr/gamme/a6/a6_berline/s_informer/caracteristiques.html#source=http://www.audi.fr/fr/brand/fr/gamme/a6/a6_berline/s_informer/caracteristiques.html&container=page

    Denmark
    http://www.audidanmark.dk/audi/nye_biler/priser/?model=A6&type=Limousine

    Etc etc etc etc now give it a rest with "Paddy-spec" there is NO such thing it's STANDARD spec to get a 2.0tdi and for people to buy it across Europe. The same goes for BMW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    EPM wrote: »
    If I was an authorised Audi Service Centre why would I take my time to fix a problem if the car is under Audi's warranty? It's paid work. Why would you even bother deliberately taking your time fixing a car and have it lying around your place of business in the way? To p1ss off the customer because they didn't buy from you?

    I'd imagine the dealer would have much better things to do with their time rather than place childish games.

    in a perfect world they would do as you describe.


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