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FF Dublin City V Country

  • 26-02-2011 9:16pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭


    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.

    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭Bobjims


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.

    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    Dublin has its fair share of idiots too. I just got a grilling in the canteen in college yesterday, all 6 people at lunch with me were voting fianna fail and they seem quite annoyed when I said I would'nt be voting for them. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Bobjims wrote: »
    Dublin has its fair share of idiots too.
    Clearly it doesnt have "its fair share"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    No.

    You can, however, safely say that FF is effectively a rural party and that the heart of its core support has always been in rural areas. Which won't come as a surprise to anyone who's been watching election results for years. Equally, in the country, more TDs are likely to get a personal vote based on their relationship with the community and more supporters knowing their neighbours personally. And the parish pump mentality is still alive in Ireland, more especially in rural Ireland probably more to the higher numbers having explicit ties to their local areas. The core support for Labour has long been in the cities and the core support for parties like Fianna Fail has always been in the country. Strip away all of the non-core support and that's what you're left with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    sceptre wrote: »
    No.

    You can, however, safely say that FF is effectively a rural party and that the heart of its core support has always been in rural areas. Which won't come as a surprise to anyone who's been watching election results for years. Equally, in the country, more TDs are likely to get a personal vote based on their relationship with the community and more supporters knowing their neighbours personally. And the parish pump mentality is still alive in Ireland, more especially in rural Ireland probably more to the higher numbers having explicit ties to their local areas. The core support for Labour has long been in the cities and the core support for parties like Fianna Fail has always been in the country. Strip away all of the non-core support and that's what you're left with.

    Good point indeed but I do think IQ and economic awareness/education is a factor also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Eliot Rosewater


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Good point indeed but I do think IQ and economic awareness/education is a factor also

    I'd be inclined to disagree with that. It's all too easy to dismiss people you disagree with as uneducated and unaware.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    No, we can safely say Dublin has more people on the dole or working for the PS.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭toxicity234


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.

    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    its a funny statement.
    What is an educated vote?? o wait i know someone that agrees with you.
    anyone who doesn't agrees with your vote is uneducated.
    love the idea. I'm going to use that everytime some doesn't agree with me.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.
    Bear in mind that we have only about 40 seats filled - there is a long way to go yet (although it does look likely)!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    I'd be inclined to disagree with that. It's all too easy to dismiss people you disagree with as uneducated and unaware.

    Well anyone that is voting FF is pretty much of low IQ and VERY economically unaware to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭loike


    i wanna like your post more than once


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Is that the city that not only elected but consistently returned Ahern, Lawlor, Burke and others
    Or put in parish pump politicians like Tony Gregory

    Dublin isn't different. What it does have is support for the Labour party who can step up and capture a lot of votes in this election.
    There areas in Ireland that haven't seen a Labour TD in 20 years and the cumann system is very poor.
    But this isn't news, most of their voters are in urban areas, same as the Green Party.

    Just because you don't agree with someone OP, you can't just dismiss them as low IQ. We all have the same school system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    Is that the city that not only elected but consistently returned Ahern, Lawlor, Burke and others
    Or put in parish pump politicians like Tony Gregory

    Dublin isn't different. What i does have is support for the Labour party who can step up and capture a lot of votes in this election.
    There areas in Ireland that haven't seen a Labour TD in 20 years and the cumann system is very poor.
    But this isn't news, most of their voters are in urban areas, same as the Green Party.

    Just because you don't agree with someone OP, you can't just dismiss them as low IQ. We all have the same school system.

    Stop trying to defend FF voters. You are a mod and should not be taking such a biased approach. EDIT: you are not a mod

    Same school system?? That means nothing . How many people went to school and dropped out? How many idiots went to school??

    I could go on and on. But often people in rural areas are very backward in thinking and pretty idiotic? And surprise surprise they vote FF


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    NickDrake wrote: »
    You are a mod and should not be taking such a biased approach.

    I've been made a mod :D

    Excellent, mind I don't ban you ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.

    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    Hmmm dubs just voted for Jack o'connor and david begs<sic> puppets.

    You also voted in two socialist party members and a PBP member is still in with a high chance.

    I say that and I cant understand why people vote FF?:confused:

    Morol of the story people are stupid!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    NickDrake wrote: »
    JCan we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    Remind me again what constituencies Bertie Ahern, Ray Burke, Liam Lawlor, etc were from ?

    The above is condescending bull; not everyone with brains moved to the rat-race.

    Not to mention the fact that the "1" FF TD that Dublin returned was the one who was hopeless in his remit as Minister for Finance and lied through his teeth with zero credibility every time he was interviewed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭UpTheSlashers


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.

    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    Bertie Ahern - Dublin
    Charles Haughey - Dublin

    Your argument - down the toilet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.

    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    Look at Labours vote and they sold themselves to union and public sector workers n Dublin just sold out to a different owner than some rural areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭JBnaglfar


    NickDrake wrote: »
    ... the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    You are aware that our next taoiseach, and probably the next tanaiste, are both from rural Ireland. Sure, one of them even ran in a Dublin constituency :rolleyes:. Seriously tho', I welcome FF's defeat, and this is particularly the case in Dublin, but also true of many rural areas such as Connaught and Donegal where no FF candidates have been elected yet. Your claim of 'rural idiocy' is ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    Maybe farming hasn't been hit as bad as other sectors?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Inquitus wrote: »
    No, we can safely say Dublin has more people on the dole
    No, that honor is reserved for Longford, Kerry, Donegal. A lot of places have more unemployment than Dublin.

    Dublin has more working class factory workers, which tend not to vote FF.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    panda100 wrote: »
    Maybe farming hasn't been hit as bad as other sectors?

    Yep everybody outside Dublin is a farmer:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    Bertie Ahern - Dublin
    Charles Haughey - Dublin

    Your argument - down the toilet

    ONE FF seat, just ONE!!!

    Looks like the country folk are still stuck in the celtic tiger and STILL haven't moved on.

    Dear god no wonder the country is destroyed if people in rural Ireland still vot FF>


    ye should be ashamed. At least people in Dublin voted for changed.

    Amazing how FF retained seat in rural Ireland.I gues my uneducated idiotic theory is right. Shame on you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,345 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Dublin have the ULA / Socialist party and also higher crime rates than the rest of the country - coincidence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    Dublin have the ULA / Socialist party and also higher crime rates than the rest of the country - coincidence?

    Per head?? Think Limerick is higher???

    At least we are not voting FF.

    Rural folk have a LOT to answer for. Pretty idiotic and stupid if you ask me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    panda100 wrote: »
    Maybe farming hasn't been hit as bad as other sectors?

    ...you do realise there is almost no farmers left in this country don't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    OP, please feel free to explain away the fact that many of those Fianna Fail TDs were voted into power in largely urban constituencies in Cork city whereas there was no FF'ers returned in the largely rural constituencies of Cork South-West and Cork East?

    I'll await your troll reply.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    Orizio wrote: »
    OP, please feel free to explain away the fact that many of those Fianna Fail TDs were voted into power in largely urban constituencies in Cork city whereas there was no FF'ers returned in the largely rural constituencies of Cork South-West and Cork East?

    I'll await your troll reply.

    Here comes the Cork boy. Look at the results. West Clare and Galway voted FF. More in country than urban.

    Well what does it say about the IQ about people in Cork city??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    NickDrake wrote: »
    ONE FF seat, just ONE!!!

    Looks like the country folk are still stuck in the celtic tiger and STILL haven't moved on.

    Dear god no wonder the country is destroyed if people in rural Ireland still vot FF>


    ye should be ashamed. At least people in Dublin voted for changed.

    Amazing how FF retained seat in rural Ireland.I gues my uneducated idiotic theory is right. Shame on you.

    Yawn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Here comes the Cork boy. Look at the results. West Clare and Galway voted FF. More in country than urban.

    Well what does it say about the IQ about people in Cork city??

    They are idiots? But they are urban idiots - the voting in Cork clearly shows up your nonsense about an instrinsic city/country divide in this country.

    Fianna Fail's vote is drastically down everywhere - the Irish people have overwhelmingly rejected Fianna Fail, leave your false dichotomies for the bigoted and simple-minded.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    Orizio wrote: »
    They are idiots? But they are urban idiots - the voting in Cork clearly shows up your nonsense about an instrinsic city/country divide in this country.

    Fianna Fail's vote is drastically down everywhere - the Irish people have overwhelmingly rejected Fianna Fail, leave your false dichotomies for the bigoted and simple-minded.

    HA ha . Dublin City is a totally differeny place than Cork city. Where is the Dail?? Where is the IFSC?? There are 1.5 million in Dublin.

    Cork is stuck in the celtic tiger still. FF loving clowns still exist there. It does not say a lot for the people outide Dublin if they are still voting FF. Only 1 voted here. Dear go how many idiots still remain in the sticks??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    NickDrake wrote: »
    HA ha . Dublin City is a totally differeny place than Cork city. Where is the Dail?? Where is the IFSC?? There are 1.5 million in Dublin.

    **** me are you actually trying to imply Cork city isn't urban? Its a ****ing city and they've just voted in their drones for FF, in comparison to the surrounding rural areas in west and east Cork.

    Just give up, your 'argument' has been factually disproven by yesterday's events.
    Cork is stuck in the celtic tiger still. FF loving clowns still exist there. It does not say a lot for the people outide Dublin if they are still voting FF. Only 1 voted here.

    Yup, FF loving urban clowns. And obviously Cork county isn't stuck in the Celtic Tiger since we voted out FF.
    Dear go how many idiots still remain in the sticks??

    I'd like to answer this question, but since its absolute gibberish I can't. Unfortunate really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭NickDrake


    Orizio wrote: »
    **** me are you actually trying to imply Cork city isn't urban? Its a ****ing city and they've just voted in their drones for FF, in comparison to the surrounding rural areas in west and east Cork.

    Just give up, your 'argument' has been factually disproven by yesterday's events.



    Yup, FF loving urban clowns. And obviously Cork county isn't stuck in the Celtic Tiger since we voted out FF.



    I'd like to answer this question, but since its absolute gibberish I can't. Unfortunate really.

    Did I metion Urban??? Dublin City voted ONE FF clown. Cork voted loads. Cork county as a whole just showed how idiotic and behind the times thery are.

    Dear godvseriously you would think ye should move on from ff


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Posts reported as you are obviously trolling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.

    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    Keep back-tracking troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Per head?? Think Limerick is higher???

    It's not, though we did elect O'Dea.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    No FF seats in Waterford I'm glad to say.

    Still I think the OP is extremely poor. There are no FF seats in Sligo/ north Leitrim and Roscommon/South Leitrim so does that mean that people in these counties are exponentially smarter than the people of dublin?:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Nick Drake banned for well, insulting 18% or so of the county. I don't care what you people think of others who vote for parties that you fundamentally disagree with, coming on here and calling them idiots will get you banned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭dedon


    nesf wrote: »
    Nick Drake banned for well, insulting 18% or so of the county. I don't care what you people think of others who vote for parties that you fundamentally disagree with, coming on here and calling them idiots will get you banned.

    More FF protectionism??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    dedon wrote: »
    More FF protectionism??

    No more FF protectionism than SF protectionism or PBP protectionism or any other group of supporters. Seriously, we require civility on here, it doesn't matter if a party is hated, this does not change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    Yep everybody outside Dublin is a farmer:rolleyes:
    Orizio wrote: »
    ...you do realise there is almost no farmers left in this country don't you?

    I disagree. I voted in Limerick county on Friday which is a rural constituency and returned its highest number of votes to Niall Collins from FF. Construction and farming are the two biggest sectors from where I live. Vast majority of the young people who had been employed in construction have emigrated. That leaves the farmers who are still working away, and got a lot of perks off the FF government.

    Look, I don't know the answer and just throwing out what I can see. I am trying to make sense of why the people here would return a greedy FF like Collins who has done sweet f*ck all for the people of Limerick yet who cashed in one of the highest expenses of all the TD's in the country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Redr


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.

    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    I've got on Boards to apologise from Cork South Central the only constituency in the country to return two FF. We are a disaster and deserve the opprobium of the nation. I personally put McGrath at 16 and Martin at 17 but it matters not a jot.

    We've endorsed the decisions of the last government and, indeed, by returning these two we want more - more corruption, more croynism, more emigration, more, more, more. I've been shocked at how many of my friends continue to vote for FF and I am disheartened. And we don't seem to make the connection - if you like the cut of Martin's gib you vote for him and to hell with everyone else.

    It would be great if all the people who voted FF offered to pay for the USC, and the bailout, and the additional costs associated with the shameless FF brigade.

    Sorry, sorry, sorry - and keep mentioning it to Cork SC people!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Just putting this out there.

    Due to the fact that FF only look on for 1 seat in the whole of Dublin. 1.5 million people represented and only 1 probably in.

    But the rest of the country and especially the rural areas still voted there crooks in.

    Can we now safety say the educated vote is in Dublin and that the country/rural Ireland is still full of backward idiotic people with a low iq and full of people that haven't a clue what is going on in Ireland??

    The stupidest thing about the statement above is the person that made it:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    NickDrake wrote: »
    Per head?? Think Limerick is higher???

    Think again - you're wrong.
    NickDrake wrote: »
    At least we are not voting FF.

    Dublin City voted in the same number of FF as Limerick City.

    Now that we have the facts rather than your random inaccurate thoughts, did you have a point to make ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭patmac


    Well I voted in Roscommon and for the first time there will be no FF TD here (which is one less than Dublin). First to get elected was Luke 'Ming' Flanagan, ridiculed by the local FF people and expected to have a tough fight for the final seat.
    So we will be smoking dope and burning turf or will that be smoking turf?
    But he is a serious candidate who has already vowed to give up half his salary and called on other TD's to the same, it will be interesting to see how many will follow suit.


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