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Could our dreams be really inter-dimensional astral travel?

  • 21-05-2011 2:34pm
    #1
    Contemplating Aristotle
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    When we go to sleep at night, we have the most remarkable dreams. The places we visit seem so real to us, it is as if we are there, alive and living life as if we were living it in the here and now. According to some quantum physics theories we live in a multiverse, an infinite cluster of universes, some of which criss-cross our own universe, and even planet.

    Scientist Michio Kaku has even suggested that there may be dinosaurs from another world roaming in our living rooms. So considering that the conscious mind resides outside of three dimensional space, and that other universes, other existences could be right before us, yet invincible, is it conceivable that we visit these places in our dreams, when we tune out of the three dimensional world at night?


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  • #2
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Aaa... ok!
    Thanks for that.

    After Hours will now return back to normal.
    Commence with the comments!


  • #3
    xsiborg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    how do you know you're not just daydreaming right now? :D


  • #4
    strokemyclover
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭strokemyclover


    I'm dreaming of reading a good thread right now


  • #5
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    What seems most likely to you OP?


  • #6
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Slow down, I'm just getting used to the Orwellian supposition that 2+2=5.
    I'll go ask my Big Brother.


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  • #7
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    No, dreams are just your brain defragging


  • #8
    bleg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Firing neurons that your brain tries to make sense of.


  • #9
    Yahew
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    Mutiverse schmutiverse. That's a form of science on the edge of religiosity. Better not to talk about it.


  • #10
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,107 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the darkness at Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die


    I'm a lying bastard really.


  • #11
    Crann na Beatha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


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  • #12
    Kevin Duffy
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    Reporter: And how heavy is that gold around your necks?

    Fairchild: Scott, this may be solid gold, but to us it's lighter than air, because dreams never weigh you down.

    Stranz: No. Dreams are in your sleep.


  • #13
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I hope not as that means I really did bang Anne Doyle.


  • #14
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,955 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Contemplating Aristotle wrote: »

    Scientist Michio Kaku has even suggested that there may be dinosaurs from another world roaming in our living rooms. So considering that the conscious mind resides outside of three dimensional space, and that other universes, other existences could be right before us, yet invincible, is it conceivable that we visit these places in our dreams, when we tune out of the three dimensional world at night?


    I saw that episode of the Universe recently. Speaking of Kaku, a friend of mine, who is a physicist, said Kaku lied about string theory on Conan recently.


  • #15
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    I hope so, then I can claim to have fucked so many more beautifull women 'in real life' :D


  • #16
    Duckworth_Luas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Contemplating Aristotle wrote: »
    Scientist Michio Kaku has even suggested that there may be dinosaurs from another world roaming in our living rooms.

    He was never the same after that mental breakdown!


  • #17
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Of course they could.
    However, they're probably not.


  • #18
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Dreams are just thoughts but they happen when we're asleep


  • #19
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    What ever about there being a multiverse of some kind, you're also implying that we have some psychic ability to pick up on this overlap which is a bit much. Dreams are just junk fomenting in your mind while you rest. I think a person can tell something from a dream in a vague kind of way, and why not, it's stuff coming straight from their own mind. But that theory is just kind of stupid to me. Nice but silly.


  • #20
    Biggins
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    I think the OP has been watching Fringe too much and taking it serious.


  • #21
    Hulk Hands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    No way is it possible that in another universe i'm riding Rhianna every night


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  • #22
    genericguy
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    Contemplating Aristotle wrote: »
    is it conceivable that we visit these places in our dreams, when we tune out of the three dimensional world at night?

    No.


  • #23
    brimal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭brimal


    The OP is getting confused between 'many worlds theory' and other multiverse suggestions.

    FYI, Kaku is a highly credible theoretical physicist (he is one of the founders of String Field theory) but he does like to sensationalize things sometimes. Please don't get too carried away with some of the more creative examples he uses.


  • #24
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    Could our dreams be really inter-dimensional astral travel?

    Yes.


  • #25
    SparkyTech
    Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭SparkyTech


    Defo. Dreams and astral planes are totally related.


  • #26
    Turpentine
    Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Turpentine


    Contemplating Aristotle wrote: »
    When we go to sleep at night, we have the most remarkable dreams. The places we visit seem so real to us, it is as if we are there, alive and living life as if we were living it in the here and now. According to some quantum physics theories we live in a multiverse, an infinite cluster of universes, some of which criss-cross our own universe, and even planet.

    Scientist Michio Kaku has even suggested that there may be dinosaurs from another world roaming in our living rooms. So considering that the conscious mind resides outside of three dimensional space, and that other universes, other existences could be right before us, yet invincible, is it conceivable that we visit these places in our dreams, when we tune out of the three dimensional world at night?

    You've obviously never had a dream where you're in work. There's nothing very astral about it. It's crap waking up and having to go to work all over again.


  • #27
    texas sinkhole fan 226
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭texas sinkhole fan 226


    I don't even know what this board is for, but I signed up just to reply to this post. A lot of people are scoffing at this this idea without any thought or good argument. The original author presents a hypothesis that is worded in a new agey way, but for all intensive purposes is quite correct. While scientifically it has not been proven that dreams are more than random brain activity, there are plenty of cultures and religions that do propose that dreams are not only significant but are in fact extensions of reality, or a gateway to the spiritual world. That's not my argument however. I am not a religious person, yet I have always believed that dreams were real. However, that is purely because there is no effective difference whether the contents of dreams are "real" (to science) or not; because we perceive them. The practicality of it is that as you dream you receive sensory data from the same sensory areas that you interpret the waking world with. If you experience a dream that is real feeling, how is that not your realty at that time? Just because there is no quantifiable physical travel during sleep, does not mean that the mental construct that is yourself is not traveling. I will even take this a step further and argue that since the experience is real for the individual, and in dreams there is typically a different setting than your bedroom, then those places may be best described as other dimensions. To me dreams are exactly what the original author states. Science is great at explaining physical properties and functions in the universe, but notoriously bad at defining the human experience. It's the wrong tool for the job, and in this case is irrelevant. Hate away, I'm sure I'll never check this again!:D


  • #28
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Dreams are like angels, they keep bad at bay (bad at bay), love is the light scaring darkness away-ee-ayy


  • #29
    grenache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    texas sinkhole fan 226 wrote: »
    I don't even know what this board is for, but I signed up just to reply to this post. A lot of people are scoffing at this this idea without any thought or good argument. The original author presents a hypothesis that is worded in a new agey way, but for all intensive purposes is quite correct. While scientifically it has not been proven that dreams are more than random brain activity, there are plenty of cultures and religions that do propose that dreams are not only significant but are in fact extensions of reality, or a gateway to the spiritual world. That's not my argument however. I am not a religious person, yet I have always believed that dreams were real. However, that is purely because there is no effective difference whether the contents of dreams are "real" (to science) or not; because we perceive them. The practicality of it is that as you dream you receive sensory data from the same sensory areas that you interpret the waking world with. If you experience a dream that is real feeling, how is that not your realty at that time? Just because there is no quantifiable physical travel during sleep, does not mean that the mental construct that is yourself is not traveling. I will even take this a step further and argue that since the experience is real for the individual, and in dreams there is typically a different setting than your bedroom, then those places may be best described as other dimensions. To me dreams are exactly what the original author states. Science is great at explaining physical properties and functions in the universe, but notoriously bad at defining the human experience. It's the wrong tool for the job, and in this case is irrelevant. Hate away, I'm sure I'll never check this again!:D
    Reminds me of this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OK4RjS2nTU


  • #30
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    texas sinkhole fan 226 wrote: »
    I don't even know what this board is for...
    You and me both buddy!


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  • #31
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    texas sinkhole fan 226 wrote: »
    I don't even know what this board is for, but I signed up just to reply to this post. A lot of people are scoffing at this this idea without any thought or good argument. The original author presents a hypothesis that is worded in a new agey way, but for all intensive purposes is quite correct. While scientifically it has not been proven that dreams are more than random brain activity, there are plenty of cultures and religions that do propose that dreams are not only significant but are in fact extensions of reality, or a gateway to the spiritual world. That's not my argument however. I am not a religious person, yet I have always believed that dreams were real. However, that is purely because there is no effective difference whether the contents of dreams are "real" (to science) or not; because we perceive them. The practicality of it is that as you dream you receive sensory data from the same sensory areas that you interpret the waking world with. If you experience a dream that is real feeling, how is that not your realty at that time? Just because there is no quantifiable physical travel during sleep, does not mean that the mental construct that is yourself is not traveling. I will even take this a step further and argue that since the experience is real for the individual, and in dreams there is typically a different setting than your bedroom, then those places may be best described as other dimensions. To me dreams are exactly what the original author states. Science is great at explaining physical properties and functions in the universe, but notoriously bad at defining the human experience. It's the wrong tool for the job, and in this case is irrelevant. Hate away, I'm sure I'll never check this again!:D

    Hmmmm, intensive purposes, the best kind.


  • #32
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    So you're telling me that there's actually some universe out there with two hundred clones of Tiffany Amber Thiessen and they all want to roll around with me? :pac:


  • #33
    V_Moth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    Contemplating Aristotle wrote: »
    Could our dreams be really inter-dimensional astral travel?

    They probably are. In my dreams, I have been far even as decided to use want do. Once you have, everything seems possible.

    Also, are there really 225 people who have registered as "TexasSinkholeFan" before the bump today?


  • #34
    yeppydeppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Hmmmm, intensive purposes, the best kind.


    Yep, I stopped reading right there.


  • #35
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    texas sinkhole fan 226 wrote: »
    I don't even know what this board is for, but I signed up just to reply to this post. A lot of people are scoffing at this this idea without any thought or good argument. The original author presents a hypothesis that is worded in a new agey way, but for all intensive purposes is quite correct. While scientifically it has not been proven that dreams are more than random brain activity, there are plenty of cultures and religions that do propose that dreams are not only significant but are in fact extensions of reality, or a gateway to the spiritual world. That's not my argument however. I am not a religious person, yet I have always believed that dreams were real. However, that is purely because there is no effective difference whether the contents of dreams are "real" (to science) or not; because we perceive them. The practicality of it is that as you dream you receive sensory data from the same sensory areas that you interpret the waking world with. If you experience a dream that is real feeling, how is that not your realty at that time? Just because there is no quantifiable physical travel during sleep, does not mean that the mental construct that is yourself is not traveling. I will even take this a step further and argue that since the experience is real for the individual, and in dreams there is typically a different setting than your bedroom, then those places may be best described as other dimensions. To me dreams are exactly what the original author states. Science is great at explaining physical properties and functions in the universe, but notoriously bad at defining the human experience. It's the wrong tool for the job, and in this case is irrelevant. Hate away, I'm sure I'll never check this again!:D


    You are just adorable.


  • #36
    [Deleted User]
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    There's a special link I keep for occasions like this to show my reaction to a post like the OP's


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  • #37
    Lollers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Lollers


    texas sinkhole fan 226 wrote: »
    I don't even know what this board is for, but I signed up just to reply to this post. A lot of people are scoffing at this this idea without any thought or good argument. The original author presents a hypothesis that is worded in a new agey way, but for all intensive purposes is quite correct. While scientifically it has not been proven that dreams are more than random brain activity, there are plenty of cultures and religions that do propose that dreams are not only significant but are in fact extensions of reality, or a gateway to the spiritual world. That's not my argument however. I am not a religious person, yet I have always believed that dreams were real. However, that is purely because there is no effective difference whether the contents of dreams are "real" (to science) or not; because we perceive them. The practicality of it is that as you dream you receive sensory data from the same sensory areas that you interpret the waking world with. If you experience a dream that is real feeling, how is that not your realty at that time? Just because there is no quantifiable physical travel during sleep, does not mean that the mental construct that is yourself is not traveling. I will even take this a step further and argue that since the experience is real for the individual, and in dreams there is typically a different setting than your bedroom, then those places may be best described as other dimensions. To me dreams are exactly what the original author states. Science is great at explaining physical properties and functions in the universe, but notoriously bad at defining the human experience. It's the wrong tool for the job, and in this case is irrelevant. Hate away, I'm sure I'll never check this again!:D


    So when we sleep we slip between conscious, reality is where we are at the time. String theory is a version of us all in another universe ?.


    I'm up for that :)


  • #38
    The_Thing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭The_Thing


    The OP should read HP Lovecraft's 'Beyond The Wall Of Sleep'


  • #39
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Hmmmm, intensive purposes, the best kind.

    Post was a bit of a damp squid.


  • #40
    Fizzlesque
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Fizzlesque


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Hmmmm, intensive purposes, the best kind.
    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    Yep, I stopped reading right there.

    Me too, stopped reading as soon as I read that.

    However, that's one thing I love about the internet, finding out the funny things people have been saying (probably for years) in place of the actual word/saying/expression etc.

    My all-time favourite so far is: pedal stool = pedestal.

    "He won't hear a bad word said about her - he puts her on a pedal stool"

    :D


  • #41
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Contemplating Aristotle wrote: »
    Could our dreams be really inter-dimensional astral travel?

    My knob for some reason, was doing some inter-dimensional travelling down my sister-in-laws throat on Tuesday night. Now I know why she was a bit weird with me earlier today, thanks OP.


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  • #42
    Rothko
    Registered Users Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    What if, like, our dreams are actually reality and our "real life" is really just us dreaming?


  • #43
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    texas sinkhole fan 226 wrote: »
    I don't even know what this board is for, but I signed up just to reply to this post. A lot of people are scoffing at this this idea without any thought or good argument. The original author presents a hypothesis that is worded in a new agey way, but for all intensive purposes is quite correct. While scientifically it has not been proven that dreams are more than random brain activity, there are plenty of cultures and religions that do propose that dreams are not only significant but are in fact extensions of reality, or a gateway to the spiritual world. That's not my argument however. I am not a religious person, yet I have always believed that dreams were real. However, that is purely because there is no effective difference whether the contents of dreams are "real" (to science) or not; because we perceive them. The practicality of it is that as you dream you receive sensory data from the same sensory areas that you interpret the waking world with. If you experience a dream that is real feeling, how is that not your realty at that time? Just because there is no quantifiable physical travel during sleep, does not mean that the mental construct that is yourself is not traveling. I will even take this a step further and argue that since the experience is real for the individual, and in dreams there is typically a different setting than your bedroom, then those places may be best described as other dimensions. To me dreams are exactly what the original author states. Science is great at explaining physical properties and functions in the universe, but notoriously bad at defining the human experience. It's the wrong tool for the job, and in this case is irrelevant. Hate away, I'm sure I'll never check this again!:D

    I wanted to stop at the bolded part, it's "intents and purposes", but I read on, much to my detriment.

    What you are basically saying is "Science can't explain dreams, so they could be anything, so I believe they must be the most ridiculous thing I can find on the internet".

    Lets apply Occam's Razor and call it a day.


  • #44
    09898531
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭09898531


    I had a serious intensive dream last night. I was sent on a secret mission to go to England and steal their 4G cable. People who sent me threatened to kill me if I didn't succeed. When I got back here I decided to **** them over so I gave it to my friend who really wanted to look at it. They found me by following the massive 4G cable coming out of he sea and into my friends sitting room. Then there was a big dramatic escape sequence, then it went a bit slapstick, then I wok up and had to pee.


  • #45
    bluecode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭bluecode


    Well any thread can live again!

    I think the OP must have read Richard Bach's book; Illusions. In it he describes how he leaves his corpereal body every night and floats about the universe. I would just suggest he's having some great dreams.

    Dreams can be great fun though and can seem pretty real. I remember one where I went back in time to my younger self. When I woke up, for a second I thought I had actually been back in time.

    But the most interesting one was where I realised it was a dream and I told a woman who happened to be there that she was in my dream and actually she didn't really exist. She threw it back in my face. 'What makes you think you're not in MY dream?'

    I'm still not sure! :eek:


  • #46
    Jezek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Jezek


    OP... but how do you know then that your life is not the dream of the OP from the another universe?

    Whooooaaah man...just whoa..MIND! BLOWN!


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