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Packet loss - UPC Dublin

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  • 26-03-2014 3:03pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭


    Is there anyone who plays BF 4 and has BIG problems with packet loss using broadband from UPC? From several weeks, online gaming in BF4 during the day is actually impossible. Only at night i can comfortable play without lags. I'm not downloading nothing in the background, etc.
    I live in Clondalkin, how it looks in other parts of Dublin guys.
    Thank you


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭game4it70


    I'm in ballinteer and normally its fine.

    Thats very unusual for it to be a problem during the day and fine at night.You would expect it to be the other way round.

    I presume you have tried a few servers?
    Have you tested your connection on the upc speedtest during the day and night to see if the speedtest results are different?
    Have you ran any ping tests to the bf4 servers or any sites using the cmd prompt during the day to make sure its your end thats having the problem?


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Reznorek


    I did it all for what you write several times. I have a dozen screenshots (WinMtr app) which shows a loss of packets occurs only from a pool of IP belonging to the UPC (84.16.133.97 etc). Of course I tried several dozen different servers BF4 and bf3 in the whole of Europe and only at night I can play without lag.

    Internet - WWW, emails etc is good and stable. I did speedtests few times (120/10), all good aswell.
    The problem started about a month ago, before everything was ok, even as 3-5 computers was simultaneously attached to my router.
    Since about a week i'm waiting for an explanation and help of the matter by the UPC, so far same answers: we working on it.

    (Sorry, my english is not perfect, apologies.)

    Btw. Is there any BF4 (working) servers located i Ireland?

    Thx a lot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭game4it70


    Thats the problem with upc,its great when it works but can take some time to get a fix from them.

    There are no servers located in Ireland as far as i know but i use this UK based one and my connection is normally very stable to it.
    http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/96ab62ed-f5b9-44b8-b1d3-30f6ff5d04f3/CeltS-Mixed-Mode-Fast-Vehicle-Pbbans-GGC-ACI/

    Can you run a pingtest using the cmd box to that server to compare to my results.
    just in case you dont know the command its "ping -n 100 151.236.46.160"

    My result.

    Pinging 151.236.46.160 with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=117
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    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117
    Reply from 151.236.46.160: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=117

    Ping statistics for 151.236.46.160:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 29ms, Average = 19ms


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Reznorek


    Sorry, i can't copy/paste results from my test.
    But... :
    Ping statistics for 151.236.46.160:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 1366ms, Average = 33ms

    :(


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,099 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Pings aren't everything as ICMP traffic is inherently deprioritized by routers. Do have the capacity to run the mtr command?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭game4it70


    Maximum = 1366ms :eek:
    Thats not good :(

    Are there any other devices on the network that could causing this?
    Are you wireless or wired to the router?


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Reznorek


    Spear wrote: »
    Pings aren't everything as ICMP traffic is inherently deprioritized by routers. Do have the capacity to run the mtr command?

    Router Cisco EPC3925, i don't think so... :(
    game4it70 wrote: »
    Maximum = 1366ms :eek:
    Thats not good :(

    Are there any other devices on the network that could causing this?
    Are you wireless or wired to the router?


    To router is connected TV and laptop, my PC connected by a cable. Until recently, other computers connected to the router does not interfere with playing online. The rest of the family watched Youtube, browsed web pages and sometimes even downloaded some stuff from torrents etc and same time i was normally playing online


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,099 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Reznorek wrote: »
    Router Cisco EPC3925, i don't think so... :(

    It'd run from your PC. There's a Windows edition available:

    http://winmtr.net/


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Reznorek


    Spear wrote: »
    It'd run from your PC. There's a Windows edition available:

    http://winmtr.net/

    I have some screenshots from WinMTR, which works in the background when i was playing online. I loss Packet always in the same range of IP addresses (UPC in Austria)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,099 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Reznorek wrote: »
    I have some screenshots from WinMTR, which works in the background when i was playing online. I loss Packet always in the same range of IP addresses (UPC in Austria)

    They may not be in Austria, UPC may simply have that as the geo location entry in the range whois info. What specific IPs were they?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Reznorek


    Spear wrote: »
    They may not be in Austria, UPC may simply have that as the geo location entry in the range whois info. What specific IPs were they?

    84.116.238.62
    84.116.137.74
    84.116.132.242
    84.116.132.186
    84.116.238.58
    84.116.132.82
    84.116.133.97


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,099 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Reznorek wrote: »
    84.116.238.62
    84.116.137.74
    84.116.132.242
    84.116.132.186
    84.116.238.58
    84.116.132.82
    84.116.133.97

    Those are indeed fairly local nodes. Raise a ticket with UPC, and show them the mtr results with packet loss.


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭Reznorek


    Spear wrote: »
    Those are indeed fairly local nodes. Raise a ticket with UPC, and show them the mtr results with packet loss.

    I'm trying, believe me. The answer is the same again: we are working on this ;)

    Anyway, many thanks for your time!


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