NCT - Voluntary Early Test - available from 28/07/2014

cletus · 29-07-2014 7:39am

I would assume that the odo reading will be taken digitally where possible, from the ecu, therefore whatever unit is on the speedo, or most prominent on the speedo, will be the km/mileage a potential buyer will check

franer1970 · 29-07-2014 8:48am

Am I right that you'll miss out 90 days of cert validity if you take the test early by just one day?

Remember that 90 days does not necessarily equal three calendar months - you might get stung if you get it wrong.

This page will give you the date that's 90 days before your due date (example date included already)
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=22&m1=1&y1=2015&type=sub&ay=&am=&aw=&ad=90

CiniO · 29-07-2014 10:55am

cletus wrote: »

I would assume that the odo reading will be taken digitally where possible, from the ecu, therefore whatever unit is on the speedo, or most prominent on the speedo, will be the km/mileage a potential buyer will check

Mileage read digitally from the ecu - you must be dreaming.
They do (and most likely keep doing) just a odometer reading by looking at it, and you should consider yourself lucky if they note it down rightly.
No mention about units at all.

mickdw · 29-07-2014 11:09am

CiniO wrote: »

Problem with mileage record on both certs and discs, is that it doesn't show unit (miles or km).
Some cars come with option of switching odometer between those units.

So what is stopping someone to do all NCT's with odometer set to miles, and then clock the car to suit km odometer reading to NCT record.
F.e.
Car does 16k km a year (10k miles).
So on 4th anniversary NCT it will have 40k miles (40k recorded on NCT record)
At 6th anniversary it will have 60k on NCT record.
On 8th anniversary it will be 80k on NCT record.
So car will be 128k km (80k miles).

So now - what's stopping owner, to clock the car back from 128k km to 80k km, and just say to the buyer, that all NCT mileage records were done with odometer set to km?

yes. My case is exactly like this although I wouldn't be in interested in fooling anyone and besides I have a full history as well but yes the nct people for the last couple of tests have recorded the mileage in miles and I could in theory clock it back to that figure in km if I wished. All they need to do is record miles or km beside the figure but they don't do that.

BHP · 29-07-2014 11:25am

CiniO wrote: »

Problem with mileage record on both certs and discs, is that it doesn't show unit (miles or km).
Some cars come with option of switching odometer between those units.

So what is stopping someone to do all NCT's with odometer set to miles, and then clock the car to suit km odometer reading to NCT record.
F.e.
Car does 16k km a year (10k miles).
So on 4th anniversary NCT it will have 40k miles (40k recorded on NCT record)
At 6th anniversary it will have 60k on NCT record.
On 8th anniversary it will be 80k on NCT record.
So car will be 128k km (80k miles).

So now - what's stopping owner, to clock the car back from 128k km to 80k km, and just say to the buyer, that all NCT mileage records were done with odometer set to km?

mickdw wrote: »

yes. My case is exactly like this although I wouldn't be in interested in fooling anyone and besides I have a full history as well but yes the nct people for the last couple of tests have recorded the mileage in miles and I could in theory clock it back to that figure in km if I wished. All they need to do is record miles or km beside the figure but they don't do that.

The odometer unit is now printed on the cert and on the inspection report. I understand they added this in July.

mickdw · 29-07-2014 1:11pm

BHP wrote: »

The odometer unit is now printed on the cert and on the inspection report. I understand they added this in July.

Very good but I hope they have there eyes open as again taking the example of my own car, it's an irish car with km clocks and the mileage by choice I have displayed in miles. The car just shows 'mi' beside the figures.

Irish Steve · 29-07-2014 9:02pm

Well, the 90 day idea is a waste of time, as is their on line booking system, I've just looked for a date, and in all the Dublin centres, and Drogheda, there's NOTHING before Mid October, which is a joke.

So is that because a load of people are going for early tests, or has the system reached melt down?

I thought that the on line system was supposed to make it easier, now, if I want to get a legal test, I have to waste God knows how long on the phone to get a booking.

Shambles

dodzy · 30-07-2014 8:01am

Irish Steve wrote: »

Well, the 90 day idea is a waste of time, as is their on line booking system, I've just looked for a date, and in all the Dublin centres, and Drogheda, there's NOTHING before Mid October, which is a joke.

So is that because a load of people are going for early tests, or has the system reached melt down?

I thought that the on line system was supposed to make it easier, now, if I want to get a legal test, I have to waste God knows how long on the phone to get a booking.

Shambles

ring early in the morning.
Tell them to put you on a priority list
Yell them you are available for multiple centres

You'll have a test in a couple of weeks.

And you won't be ages on the phone either.

djimi · 30-07-2014 9:25am

Irish Steve wrote: »

I thought that the on line system was supposed to make it easier, now, if I want to get a legal test, I have to waste God knows how long on the phone to get a booking.

The online system is a joke. Pick up the phone; youll get a test much sooner than whatever they are offering online.

Kamili · 30-07-2014 10:09am

dougie-lampkin wrote: »

Call them and you will get a date in August, at any centre you like. Or try the NCT site again now, the new dates are loaded at 11:30 PM.

I tried that and they still won't give me a date before October!

FobleAsNuck · 30-07-2014 10:17am

so they introduced yearly testing for 10+ yo cars for "safety" reasons, and it looks now that once you pay you can have it tested month after month and get the cert for 23 months? am I reading this right?

djimi · 30-07-2014 10:24am

FobleAsNuck wrote: »

so they introduced yearly testing for 10+ yo cars for "safety" reasons, and it looks now that once you pay you can have it tested month after month and get the cert for 23 months? am I reading this right?

The cert will only be valid for 12 months from the test date, unless the car is tested within 3 months of the due date in which case the old "early test" rule still applies (12 months plus the extra time from the early test). If you were to test the car on a monthly basis the cert would still only be valid for 12 months from the most recent test date, or 15 months at the absolute most.

FobleAsNuck · 30-07-2014 10:25am

ok got it

dougie-lampkin · 30-07-2014 3:13pm

Kamili wrote: »

I tried that and they still won't give me a date before October!

When you called them? Good news, your NCT is free then.

http://www.ncts.ie/customer_charter.html - Point 4.

Kamili · 30-07-2014 3:39pm

dougie-lampkin wrote: »

When you called them? Good news, your NCT is free then.

http://www.ncts.ie/customer_charter.html - Point 4.

I said that to the girl on the phone too and then she wouldn't give me the october date then and put me on the priority list instead. So still no date!

dougie-lampkin · 30-07-2014 3:48pm

Kamili wrote: »

I said that to the girl on the phone too and then she wouldn't give me the october date then and put me on the priority list instead. So still no date!

They will always give you a date within 30 days, to my knowledge a free test has never been given. It might be 11.30 PM on a Tuesday night but you'll get a slot :pac:

You can refuse the first two dates offered if they don't suit you also, you're not obliged to take the first one they offer. If you refuse three then you forfeit the 30 day rule though.

patrickc · 30-07-2014 9:26pm

the wife's 11 Mazda is booked for August 22nd, and has been for the last 6 or 7 weeks, its not due to until January but I said we'd get it done early and have the few months early included in it.

anyhow she got a call yesterday saying did she want to leave it at that date or leave it until next January, as she'd only be getting the 2 years cert either way.

I don't think its very fair for those who booked it ages ago to change it on them as soon as the rules come in, they should leave it the old way for those who'd booked prior to the changes.

she left it at August anyhow as January as for everyone is a tight month.

rocky · 30-07-2014 9:55pm

She should get an NCT for ~ 29 months? That was always the case.

CiniO · 30-07-2014 9:58pm

rocky wrote: »

She should get an NCT for ~ 29 months? That was always the case.

30 months (if she did first nct 6 months early).

However this in no longer possible.
She can only do NCT 3 months early to keep the same due date.

CiniO · 30-07-2014 10:00pm

patrickc wrote: »

the wife's 11 Mazda is booked for August 22nd, and has been for the last 6 or 7 weeks, its not due to until January but I said we'd get it done early and have the few months early included in it.

anyhow she got a call yesterday saying did she want to leave it at that date or leave it until next January, as she'd only be getting the 2 years cert either way.

I don't think its very fair for those who booked it ages ago to change it on them as soon as the rules come in, they should leave it the old way for those who'd booked prior to the changes.

she left it at August anyhow as January as for everyone is a tight month.

She can rebook it for anytime which is less than 90 month to due date.
F.e. if NCT is due 15th January 2015, then if she takes her test on 20th October 2014, she will get a test valid for nearly 27 months (till 15th January 2017).

patrickc · 30-07-2014 10:38pm

thanks thats great to know

dodzy · 31-07-2014 7:28am

CiniO wrote: »

She can rebook it for anytime which is less than 90 month to due date.
F.e. if NCT is due 15th January 2015, then if she takes her test on 20th October 2014, she will get a test valid for nearly 27 months (till 15th January 2017).

.....days:)

jca · 31-07-2014 12:18pm

CiniO wrote: »

She can rebook it for anytime which is less than 90 month to due date.
F.e. if NCT is due 15th January 2015, then if she takes her test on 20th October 2014, she will get a test valid for nearly 27 months (till 15th January 2017).

Before the changes she could have had a test for 30 months. First time testers are the biggest losers. Someone always loses.

djimi · 31-07-2014 12:44pm

It makes no odds really in fairness. You lose the ability to test the car 6 months in advance, but the cert would be valid until the same date either way. The new system just means you have to wait a few more months before testing it; youre not losing anything.

CiniO · 31-07-2014 1:42pm

djimi wrote: »

It makes no odds really in fairness. You lose the ability to test the car 6 months in advance, but the cert would be valid until the same date either way. The new system just means you have to wait a few more months before testing it; youre not losing anything.

Technically you are right, but I was fairly happy that I could test my car for 30 months last year. No I wouldn't be able to do it anymore.

djimi · 31-07-2014 2:11pm

Youre not getting 30 months though. Youre getting the same 24 that you would normally get, plus 6 months when the car does not have to be tested. Now you will get 3 months where the car doesnt have to be tested rather than 6. It works out exactly the same; the only difference now is that somewhat reduces the flexibility you had with regards when you test the car.

kev250 · 11-08-2014 2:11pm

My nct is up in December but i wanted to get it done next month and get 15 months nct.
While booking it the person on the phone said that with the new rules, the 3 months early has been abolished and now it will only be 12 months so i will only get nct until September 2015.
My understanding of this was that this new test was not going to effect getting an extra 3 months nct?

Gumbo · 11-08-2014 3:51pm

kev250 wrote: »

My nct is up in December but i wanted to get it done next month and get 15 months nct.
While booking it the person on the phone said that with the new rules, the 3 months early has been abolished and now it will only be 12 months so i will only get nct until September 2015.
My understanding of this was that this new test was not going to effect getting an extra 3 months nct?

Your NCT is out in December, so if you do a voluntary NCT thats outside of the 3 month window it is then NCT'd for 12 months/24 months from the date of the NCT.

In your case, you would want to NCT it in September to avail of the 12 months plus the balance of the remaining.

curiosity · 11-08-2014 4:09pm

kev250 wrote: »

My nct is up in December but i wanted to get it done next month and get 15 months nct.
While booking it the person on the phone said that with the new rules, the 3 months early has been abolished and now it will only be 12 months so i will only get nct until September 2015.
My understanding of this was that this new test was not going to effect getting an extra 3 months nct?

https://ncts.ie/customer_service_enhancements_to_nct_july_2014.html

Vehicles presenting for their first NCT at 4 years will be subject to the same rules as any other aged vehicles. Note this is a change from the rule which allowed vehicles presenting for their first test at 4 years to be presented up to 6 months (180 days) early......Vehicles tested on-time (i.e. within 90 days of the test due date) or late remain unaffected by this change.

Hmm, doesn't tally with what their site states. Surely the whole point of the '90 days early' option is to spread out the glut of cars due a test in January?

Slightly off-topic; just put in my reg to see how many available dates there are for Little Island. Only two time slots available between now and November 9th! May as well ring them, as usual:rolleyes:

kev250 · 11-08-2014 4:21pm

Yeah sorted it now, person on the phone got confused and thought i was looking for a date immediately (over the 90 days)
The online booking is a bit of a disaster unless you are booking at least 3 months in advance it seems, i have been put on the waiting list for September anyway.

Eoinuna · 02-11-2014 12:55am

CiniO wrote: »

Voluntary early test obviously won't be available for cars which are overdue NCT.

Don't see the obviousness of this!

The new systems is a bit of a joke and money making gig for the NCTS. I went with a car that was overdue the NCT by about 6 months. Car was actually off the road. I thought I'd be getting a cert for a year but only got till the anniversary date. If I turned around again and went straight back for another test I'd get it for 12 months. Rationalise that one someone, please.

Fred Swanson · 02-11-2014 12:57am

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jca · 02-11-2014 5:54am

Eoinuna wrote: »

Don't see the obviousness of this!

The new systems is a bit of a joke and money making gig for the NCTS. I went with a car that was overdue the NCT by about 6 months. Car was actually off the road. I thought I'd be getting a cert for a year but only got till the anniversary date. If I turned around again and went straight back for another test I'd get it for 12 months. Rationalise that one someone, please.

I'd query that with them. I brought my fathers car (02) last Wednesday 29/10/2014 which was expired since 22/1/2013. It passed and was given a cert until 22/01/2016, which is correct as it was within 90 days of its birthday. Had it been tested two weeks ago(outside the 90 day period) I would have expected a cert for the full year.

tanko · 03-11-2014 10:38pm

I have a car booked in for the NCT this sat (nov 8th), is it too late to rearrange this test to another date?

Atlantic Dawn · 03-11-2014 11:07pm

tanko wrote: »

I have a car booked in for the NCT this sat (nov 8th), is it too late to rearrange this test to another date?

Pretty sure it is 5 days, whether today counts as 5 days or not I'm not sure.

tanko · 03-11-2014 11:21pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Pretty sure it is 5 days, whether today counts as 5 days or not I'm not sure.

I think I'm too late to change it, I'll give them a ring tomorrow.

CiniO · 03-11-2014 11:25pm

tanko wrote: »

I think I'm too late to change it, I'll give them a ring tomorrow.

Tomorrow it will definitely be too late.
There is a chance that today you can still do it, so try online. You'll find out straight away if you can do it or not.

NCT - Voluntary Early Test - available from 28/07/2014

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