Tips for the Hayfever Sufferers

noelo · 28-06-2010 11:18am

sure we will just have to deal with it for now like the common cold.

siobhan.murphy · 01-07-2010 1:51am

thank foook its raining!!!
ah relief!

noelo · 01-07-2010 8:39am

hey ! how come my nose is still blocked though?

siobhan.murphy · 01-07-2010 11:15am

blocked nose I can deal with,well kinda,1 bostril blocked,the other running away!sore itchy eyes and wheezy is woeful,plus I look like someone has beaten the crap out of me ,either thant or I look like I have been on a session for a week,and sad to say I havent!
and the sun is shining,another day indoors

El.duderino · 01-07-2010 11:26am

Its windy and it didnt rain enough! Cant breath through my nose.

gpk · 13-07-2010 4:06pm

Honeygar (Honey + Apple Cider Vinegar) and Opticrom eye drops on a bad day.

ChewChew · 17-07-2010 11:56am

thank god it hasnt been too bad the last 2 weeks. i've found some relief in cetrine allergy until about 5pm then back on the piriton but i also found lorat. they are fantastic, but hard to get in alot of pharmacies.

TheBunk1 · 28-07-2010 5:18pm

Try drinking a probiotic drink every day. I started drinking an Actimel about 2.5yrs ago and my hayfever has almost completely disappeared, after over 20yrs of suffering. All I get now is the odd fit of sneezing and occasional (handful of times over whole summer) itchy throat and I use absolutely no tablets, eyedrops or nasal spray like before. Obviously its not a guarantee and might'nt work for everyone, but as a scientist I genuinely believe it was the reason mine disappeared.

jimbuckleybarre · 28-07-2010 5:27pm

I'll give that a try. What about berocca could I use that instead? Started drinking that about two weeks ago and no hayfever but the count has been low anyway so hard to judge. Didn't really link it to the lack of hayfever but who knows.

Jim

noelo · 28-07-2010 6:41pm

TheBunk1 wrote: »

Try drinking a probiotic drink every day. I started drinking an Actimel about 2.5yrs ago and my hayfever has almost completely disappeared, after over 20yrs of suffering. All I get now is the odd fit of sneezing and occasional (handful of times over whole summer) itchy throat and I use absolutely no tablets, eyedrops or nasal spray like before. Obviously its not a guarantee and might'nt work for everyone, but as a scientist I genuinely believe it was the reason mine disappeared.

would natural yogurt be better than those gimmick actimel? i read that there full of sugar and artificial cultures unlike natural yogurt. the chinese hearbalist in the blanch centre told me that allergies can sometimes be caused by a low immuine system. is ther any truth in it?

noelo · 28-07-2010 6:45pm

I think my cat is the problem.

TheBunk1 · 29-07-2010 12:32am

jimbuckleybarre wrote: »

I'll give that a try. What about berocca could I use that instead? Started drinking that about two weeks ago and no hayfever but the count has been low anyway so hard to judge. Didn't really link it to the lack of hayfever but who knows.

Jim

I'm sure Berocca will do no harm. The vitamins and minerals will probbaly boost the immune system. I think the thing about drinking probiotic drinks over a sustained period of time allows the beneficial bacteria in them to establish themselves in the gut and have a positive effect.

noelo wrote: »

would natural yogurt be better than those gimmick actimel? i read that there full of sugar and artificial cultures unlike natural yogurt. the chinese hearbalist in the blanch centre told me that allergies can sometimes be caused by a low immuine system. is ther any truth in it?

I don't think Actimel are gimmicks. Granted there are many such products on the market that are not of the desired quality nor do they contain the amounts and numbers of the stated bacteria. Fromwhat I've read Actimel and other big brands are generally good under any tests carried out.

The thing about probiotic drinks compared to natural yoghurt is the amount of bacteria in them. Probiotics will contain substantially more and thus more will reach and be able to survivre in the gut and possibly exert a beneficial effect. probiotic drinks may also contain bacteria that have been shown to positive health effects.

Allergies can absolutely be linked to the immune system. Indeed hayfever is one such condition, as well as eczema. the immune system can be over sensitive to foreign particles, such as pollen, coming into contact with the body. So this over reaction causes the production and release of inflammatory compounds that cause swelling and irritation in the nose throat and eyes, etc. Probiotics have been shown to have beneficial effects in reducing the amounts of these inflammatory compounds produced.

Again I must state it is my opinion that probiotics have helped my hayfever. But there have been some good scientific studies showing promising results for the use of probiotics in the treatment of a myriad of conditions. It may not work for everyone but why not give it a try

noelo · 29-07-2010 12:42am

TheBunk1 wrote: »

I'm sure Berocca will do no harm. The vitamins and minerals will probbaly boost the immune system. I think the thing about drinking probiotic drinks over a sustained period of time allows the beneficial bacteria in them to establish themselves in the gut and have a positive effect.

I don't think Actimel are gimmicks. Granted there are many such products on the market that are not of the desired quality nor do they contain the amounts and numbers of the stated bacteria. Fromwhat I've read Actimel and other big brands are generally good under any tests carried out.

The thing about probiotic drinks compared to natural yoghurt is the amount of bacteria in them. Probiotics will contain substantially more and thus more will reach and be able to survivre in the gut and possibly exert a beneficial effect. probiotic drinks may also contain bacteria that have been shown to positive health effects.

Allergies can absolutely be linked to the immune system. Indeed hayfever is one such condition, as well as eczema. the immune system can be over sensitive to foreign particles, such as pollen, coming into contact with the body. So this over reaction causes the production and release of inflammatory compounds that cause swelling and irritation in the nose throat and eyes, etc. Probiotics have been shown to have beneficial effects in reducing the amounts of these inflammatory compounds produced.

Again I must state it is my opinion that probiotics have helped my hayfever. But there have been some good scientific studies showing promising results for the use of probiotics in the treatment of a myriad of conditions. It may not work for everyone but why not give it a try

cool ill try thanks

SL10 · 21-09-2010 6:41pm

Is it possible to have hay fever this time of year?

Im feeling really hay feverish today- itchy eyes, scratchy throat, blocked nose and difficulty breathing- not sure if its hay fever or not tho!

The_Conductor · 21-09-2010 7:24pm

SL10 wrote: »

Is it possible to have hay fever this time of year?

Im feeling really hay feverish today- itchy eyes, scratchy throat, blocked nose and difficulty breathing- not sure if its hay fever or not tho!

There is lots of dust in the air- its probably related. I've been sneezing like a maniac all day......

noelo · 21-09-2010 9:22pm

SL10 wrote: »

Is it possible to have hay fever this time of year?

Im feeling really hay feverish today- itchy eyes, scratchy throat, blocked nose and difficulty breathing- not sure if its hay fever or not tho!

The answer is yes..... but not really h.f but more a dust allergie. most of us who suffer from h.f suffer house dust allergie, so hoover like f00k ever second day, it works. if you wear gel in your hair wash it out before bed because it flakes on the pillow and you breath it all night and then again the next night,its a vicious circle. also change the pillow case and so on. also in the car open all your windows for an hour with the hot fan turned on. after the summer when the heating has not been used the dust builds up in there with pollen and what ever else. And then off coarse you breath it in. It only takes a very small amount and then your f00ked for the day..... hope i ve help man .... take care.

SL10 · 21-09-2010 10:20pm

Thanks for the info guys! I think Im gonna give my house a big spring clean tomorrow to get rid of all the dust!

terlywerly · 25-11-2010 1:22pm

Are anyone elses allergies acting up like a fecker the past few days? I'm on antihistamines and Avamys nose spray for the past fair while and have had no problems, and just the past few days I have been having such pains in my nose (like the sinus problems I used to have a few years ago) and pains above my eyes (almost in my eyebrows) and into my head

Anyone have any advice or tips?

ChewChew · 10-02-2011 10:22pm

I know, I know... It's a bit early... But I'm getting a bit anxious now because my hayfever always kick in in April and that ain't too far away... tell me I'm not alone

noelo · 10-02-2011 10:43pm

Its more than likely just dust as there is no pollen around at this time of the year. I am the same, mine comes on around april-may when the tree and grass pollen is around, lasts for about six weeks then frizzels out. I get it bad, like the biggest cold that you can imagine multiplied by ten with a cherry on top. Really its areal killer. Was thinking about the JAB because it would be now that I would need to get it but I dont know if they even do it anymore. Some people on a rear occassions have went into anaphylactic shock in the doctors surgury so they lean away from giving it, what do you all think??.

ChewChew · 11-02-2011 5:48pm

I get the injection every year and will certainly be getting it this year even though last year it didn't work for that 2-3 week block! Argh. I just dread going through that again! I'm just anxious about what summer is going to be like cause I've not heard any reports...

Brussels Sprout · 12-02-2011 1:30pm

Urgh every year I forget about this and seeing this thread has just reminded me about it. I find that I have to swap between the different anti-histamines for the summer as if I use one continuously it wears off. The last couple of years I tried eating local honey for months in advance but to no avail. Last year seemed to be particularly bad-I ended up getting very bad pains in my eyes. No, I'm not looking forward to going through this again

ChewChew · 12-02-2011 4:50pm

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Urgh every year I forget about this and seeing this thread has just reminded me about it. I find that I have to swap between the different anti-histamines for the summer as if I use one continuously it wears off. The last couple of years I tried eating local honey for months in advance but to no avail. Last year seemed to be particularly bad-I ended up getting very bad pains in my eyes. No, I'm not looking forward to going through this again

Thank god I'm not alone!

Last year even though I had the injection, I got to a point where I was taking a strip of piriton a day!! :eek: the effects soon wore off and I went onto Lorat (I think that's what they're called) and they worked an absolute godsend so I will be sticking to them!

SlimCi · 08-03-2011 6:15pm

Hi all, 'm a newly diagnosed allergy sufferer and am in my 40's and have developed asthma also in the last two years. I take nasacort, singulair and sometimes antihistamines if really necessary. Can I just ask about eye problems please? Mine don't run as such but the lids swell and get very itchy. I live in the country and today my eyes are in a right state as the farmers around here have been spreading slurry etc for the past two weeks. I'm allergic to the HDM, Grass Pollen, Cat and Dog hair and a mould called Cladosporium. I've also developed IBS or something similar which is aggrivated when the allergies are bad. Anyone experience something similar. I'd love to hear of the symptoms allergy sufferers have as I am only learning at the moment.

noelo · 08-03-2011 8:19pm

SlimCi wrote: »

Hi all, 'm a newly diagnosed allergy sufferer and am in my 40's and have developed asthma also in the last two years. I take nasacort, singulair and sometimes antihistamines if really necessary. Can I just ask about eye problems please? Mine don't run as such but the lids swell and get very itchy. I live in the country and today my eyes are in a right state as the farmers around here have been spreading slurry etc for the past two weeks. I'm allergic to the HDM, Grass Pollen, Cat and Dog hair and a mould called Cladosporium. I've also developed IBS or something similar which is aggrivated when the allergies are bad. Anyone experience something similar. I'd love to hear of the symptoms allergy sufferers have as I am only learning at the moment.

Nop nothing yet thank god, but wont be long now. I am braising myself for it, its grass and tree pollen that agrivates me. Sound like you have classic heyfever with the eyes and all, the country does not help either. Last year all my local parks decided to leave the grass long and not to cut it so as to introduce a medow for wild flower and ****, which I think was bo11ox because as soon as it was long enough they cut it to dry out and a week later 6 bailers came and bailed it all as hey, then the the trucks came . man I paid for it...........................

SlimCi · 08-03-2011 9:14pm

Probaby just because they're preparing the fields here for sewing! I'm dreading it.....

The_Conductor · 08-03-2011 9:20pm

SlimCi wrote: »

Hi all, 'm a newly diagnosed allergy sufferer and am in my 40's and have developed asthma also in the last two years. I take nasacort, singulair and sometimes antihistamines if really necessary. Can I just ask about eye problems please? Mine don't run as such but the lids swell and get very itchy. I live in the country and today my eyes are in a right state as the farmers around here have been spreading slurry etc for the past two weeks. I'm allergic to the HDM, Grass Pollen, Cat and Dog hair and a mould called Cladosporium. I've also developed IBS or something similar which is aggrivated when the allergies are bad. Anyone experience something similar. I'd love to hear of the symptoms allergy sufferers have as I am only learning at the moment.

I've Crohn's Disease- and get similar problems with my eyes (its definitely not grass pollen, I'm really not sure what it is). To be honest- even when my eyes aren't swollen (and my eyes swell as well as the eyelids etc)- I have problems even with a mild breeze- or bright light

The only relief I get is from steroid shots- alongside ridiculous amounts of neoclarityn (I've found that the otc antihistamines simply don't cut it for me).

Something that I've found helpful- curiously- is actifed (not sudafed). Not sure why. Its effective- but it wears off ridiculously quickly.

SlimCi · 08-03-2011 9:54pm

I just haven't got the hang of this allergy thing yet...but I know that the eyelids swell on a regular basis even out of hayfever season. I also have a goitre and thyroid has been tested but showed within normal range. Wonder if it is something to do with that! Its definitely auto immune anyway I'd say. God I wish I had a decent doctor...

ChewChew · 24-03-2011 9:33pm

am I obsessing over this? but I'm convinced Im getting that niggeling hayfever feeling at the back of my nose.. arrgghh it's too early!! anyone else feeling it?

tk123 · 24-03-2011 10:04pm

ChewChew wrote: »

am I obsessing over this? but I'm convinced Im getting that niggeling hayfever feeling at the back of my nose.. arrgghh it's too early!! anyone else feeling it?

Yep - my eyes are melting

and i've been taking flixonase since december (for a different prob) so it's definitely in my system for all the good it is!

ChewChew · 24-03-2011 10:26pm

tk123 wrote: »

Yep - my eyes are melting and i've been taking flixonase since december (for a different prob) so it's definitely in my system for all the good it is!

nnnooo!! I'm not able for it!!

Think I'm going to have to contact my GP over the next week or two and get the injection so! And i need to start stocking up wit piriton and lorat.

noelo · 25-03-2011 12:41am

ChewChew wrote: »

am I obsessing over this? but I'm convinced Im getting that niggeling hayfever feeling at the back of my nose.. arrgghh it's too early!! anyone else feeling it?

Yep me too, itchy throat and one nostril is runny or all duffed up. **** it mus have something got to with the fukashima nuclear disaster lol. thats not even funny......... all jokes aside , i am the same and it is to early. mind you the weather is good and theres millions of daffs, addittionally spring is springin...............

SlimCi · 25-03-2011 2:36pm

No you're not, I'm the same here streaming eyes and nose....what is the injection? Is it steroids? Must find out about it from the doc, maybe it might give some relief!

ChewChew · 27-03-2011 11:42pm

SlimCi wrote: »

No you're not, I'm the same here streaming eyes and nose....what is the injection? Is it steroids? Must find out about it from the doc, maybe it might give some relief!

yeah it's a steroid injection. works a treat except for that rotten blast we got last june :eek: I get it every April and the nurse in the gp practice can give it.

I was so bad today. I've not been sneezing, just the itchy eye and runny nose

nesf · 28-03-2011 7:14am

ChewChew wrote: »

yeah it's a steroid injection. works a treat except for that rotten blast we got last june :eek: I get it every April and the nurse in the gp practice can give it.

I was so bad today. I've not been sneezing, just the itchy eye and runny nose

Started two days ago for me. Been bothering me constantly since. Moved to new house surrounded by grass after several years in the city centre, not a good change from a hayfever point of view.

SlimCi · 28-03-2011 3:07pm

Would you believe ended up in hospital on Saturday with my little boy aged 6. He got out of the car on the way to Cork to go to the toilet and got back in, said his eyes were itchy, started rubbing and then I looked at him two minutes later and his eyes were almost swollen shut!!! God what a fright I got....into the hospital with him and they thought some sort of airborne allergen. The eyes are only back to normal today after antihistamines and steroid eye drops etc. Suppose I'll have to get him allergy tested to make sure there is nothing else lurking.....!!!

ChewChew · 28-03-2011 7:13pm

nesf wrote: »

Started two days ago for me. Been bothering me constantly since. Moved to new house surrounded by grass after several years in the city centre, not a good change from a hayfever point of view.

Oh no!!! That's going to be a right pain for you, especially not being used to the grass!! The gardeners in work cut the grass right outside my office today and I was in bits for the day

arrgghhh.

SlimCi wrote: »

Would you believe ended up in hospital on Saturday with my little boy aged 6. He got out of the car on the way to Cork to go to the toilet and got back in, said his eyes were itchy, started rubbing and then I looked at him two minutes later and his eyes were almost swollen shut!!! God what a fright I got....into the hospital with him and they thought some sort of airborne allergen. The eyes are only back to normal today after antihistamines and steroid eye drops etc. Suppose I'll have to get him allergy tested to make sure there is nothing else lurking.....!!!

Jeeper SlimCi that's rough on the poor little chap. hope to god he's not going to be a bad sufferer for the rest of the summer.

hallelujajordan · 17-04-2011 11:54am

ChewChew wrote: »

yeah it's a steroid injection. works a treat except for that rotten blast we got last june :eek: I get it every April and the nurse in the gp practice can give it.

I was so bad today. I've not been sneezing, just the itchy eye and runny nose

I'm guessing you are talking about Kenalog . . Used to take it once a year when I was younger and it worked a treat . . Doctor stopped prescribing it for me about 5 or 6 years ago. The side effects with long term usage can be pretty severe . .

Instead though, he prescribed prednisolone (also a corticosteroid) as a short term rescue medication . . . I take a combination of Neoclarityn / Xyzal / Singulair / Zaditen every day. . and then for days when it gets really bad, I can take some pred . . really works well but he will only allow me to take about 8 days worth over the season. .

Am also looking into desensitization . . anyone here tried it ? ?

ChewChew · 27-04-2011 6:19pm

hallelujajordan wrote: »

I'm guessing you are talking about Kenalog . .

Nope, the one I get is called Depo-Medrone

What a pox of a day today. Grass was cut again in work today so I died a stuffy, teary death!! Booked myself for the injection on Friday. Cannot handle the thoughts of another 4 months of this.

ppink · 02-05-2011 9:30pm

SlimCi wrote: »

Would you believe ended up in hospital on Saturday with my little boy aged 6. He got out of the car on the way to Cork to go to the toilet and got back in, said his eyes were itchy, started rubbing and then I looked at him two minutes later and his eyes were almost swollen shut!!! God what a fright I got....into the hospital with him and they thought some sort of airborne allergen. The eyes are only back to normal today after antihistamines and steroid eye drops etc. Suppose I'll have to get him allergy tested to make sure there is nothing else lurking.....!!!

I used to get this from hayfever as a child. lived on a farm and at hay baling time I had to be carried from the fields as i could not see my eyes were swollen shut. it is nasty. also happened me with barley.

still happens me now to be honest but i can avoid it better.

with regards to that injection, my gp actually wont give it anymore as it leaves indents on the skin? not sure which one? i'd take the indents over the hayfever though:rolleyes:

Brussels Sprout · 02-05-2011 9:36pm

Can anyone recommend a good nasal spray? In previous years I've used the tablets but I find that they aren't 100% effective and I keep needing to swap them around.

Truley · 02-05-2011 10:10pm

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good nasal spray? In previous years I've used the tablets but I find that they aren't 100% effective and I keep needing to swap them around.

Beconase (not to be confused with Flixonase!) is an absolute lifesaver! a squirt in each nostril before going out and it works a treat.

My hayfever really played up on me today, however it's not as bad as it was a few years ago. I think I've nailed a ritual which seems to be working for me. Take Luffa tablets throughout Winter and Spring. One generic zirtek on 'risky' mornings where I think it might flare up. Make sure to shower and change clothes on days I've been outside a lot. And of course- lots of tissues!

ChewChew · 03-05-2011 8:24am

ppink wrote: »

with regards to that injection, my gp actually wont give it anymore as it leaves indents on the skin? not sure which one? i'd take the indents over the hayfever though:rolleyes:

Yea that's the warning my GP gives me every year, is that it can leave and indent. But so far I have not had any marks to the skin, and the injection is given around the hip bone area anyways. This year was my 6th injection and I certainly haven't had any marks. thankfully.

abouttobebanned · 03-05-2011 8:27am

I get VERY bad hay fever...but it hasn't kicked in yet this year. I usually get it from mid July onwards

tk123 · 03-05-2011 8:36am

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good nasal spray? In previous years I've used the tablets but I find that they aren't 100% effective and I keep needing to swap them around.

Avamys is very good - perscription only thou - luckily I got a 12 month perscription from the respitory specialist.

Buckerface · 04-05-2011 5:06pm

Have you tried Prevalin, a new, natural nasal spray for hay fever? Here's a link for more info: www.prevalin.ie

hallelujajordan · 11-05-2011 9:01pm

ChewChew wrote: »

Yea that's the warning my GP gives me every year, is that it can leave and indent. But so far I have not had any marks to the skin, and the injection is given around the hip bone area anyways. This year was my 6th injection and I certainly haven't had any marks. thankfully.

Skin indents are not really the primary concern with this . . particularly as you get this shot in your backside. There are a number of more serious risks associated with prolonged use of long term corticosteroids, one of the most significant (and the reason my GP now refuses to prescribe for hayfever) muscle wastage.

Brussels Sprout · 04-06-2011 3:32pm

....and here we go!

Wolfe Tone · 04-06-2011 3:43pm

Mines killing me today, puffy around the eyes, runny nose etc. Took a claritin, they aren't great.

Never heard of nasel sprays, are they that good?

Brussels Sprout · 04-06-2011 4:18pm

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Mines killing me today, puffy around the eyes, runny nose etc. Took a claritin, they aren't great.

Never heard of nasel sprays, are they that good?

Just bought one right there. I got the Beconase one as it was recommended in this thread. The pharmacist told me that it may take a few weeks to work properly although the documentation says it should work within 2-3 days.

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