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I hear you're a bit of a racist now father.....

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Why in god's name would anyone in America be watching ads featuring cricket?
    This is offically the stupidest thing in the histoy of the universe and I'm loving it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Been to Australia, worked with Australians. They are a mixed race, alot of people dont have snow white skin colour. They do say and do stuff that could seem racist but in their head they are just pulling the piss. e.g. mimicking how a chinese person speaks with a chinese person in the elevator.

    Right, a sizeable proportion are white Europeans though. If we consider British and Irish ethnicity alone in Australia we are talking about 48% of the population. That's leaving out those of German, Italian, and other European ethnicities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Right, a sizeable proportion are white Europeans though. If we consider British and Irish ethnicity alone in Australia we are talking about 48% of the population. That's leaving out those of German, Italian, and other European ethnicities.

    Ya, lets leave out 52% of the people, my point stands that they didnt have to use the whitest man in Australia for the ad, plenty of ethnicities play cricket and the opposition supporters being all black. They went for skin colour contrast to highlight the 'divide' between the Aussie and the West Indians and keeps them happy by giving them fried chicken....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Why is it offensive that this guy was white Irish / British descent? Would you have preferred it if an Aborigine was on the advert, would that have made it more PC?

    Your argument is that they shouldn't have used a white Australian guy for the ad because it's offensive? Think about it, is that not absolutely ridiculous?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Why is it offensive that this guy was white Irish / British descent? Would you have preferred it if an Aborigine was on the advert, would that have made it more PC?

    Your argument is that they shouldn't have used a white Australian guy for the ad because it's offensive? Think about it, is that not absolutely ridiculous?

    It isnt, go back to my original post. JESUS!


  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Antbert


    While I would agree that the ad isn't racist, I do wince everytime I see someone moaning about 'PC gone mad'. What's way more annoying than this apparently over political correctness (which by the way, I see virtually NONE of in Ireland) is people moaning about it all the time.

    This case is sort of an exception, because it's a stupid thing to say it's racist (I think anyway, looking at the ad) but in general I'm getting really fed up of people saying 'oh we can't say anything nowadays!' when really what they mean is 'oh we can't be racist nowadays'.

    That would probably be a rant for another thread though...

    Continue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    davyjose wrote: »
    i believe the term is PC "masturbatingly challenged".

    jerkaciously malnourished


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    There's nothing being said about the people though. They're having a bit of a laugh, and the guy gives chicken around and they quieten down. What's the big deal? If race really wasn't an issue in society still there wouldn't be a problem with this advert.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭magnia


    Wish I hadnt watched that ad now.

    Im so annoyed.

    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    Im starving and I cant go get a bucket for another 3 hours.

    If the black lads are the only ones who like KFC, I must have been born with that skin disease Michael Jackson got.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Antbert


    Racism's gone a bit bizarre now. Say you wanted to point someone out in a group, and you said 'he's the black guy', same way as you'd say 'he's the guy with the moustache', would someone deem that racist? And if they would, I think the person deeming it racist is more racist than the person who said it, as they're implying it's shameful to be black.

    Although, I don't think anyone does see that as racist so... Maybe a pointless point.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    retarded


  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Neonjack


    Has anybody contacted the West Indian Department of Agriculture to find out exactly how many chickens per head are eaten there every year and how that figure compares to worldwide statistics? Let's get our facts right here. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    So is this news report racist too?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭SoWatchaWant


    Do the Americans realise they do the same thing, just to select groups? Eg, the average American's idea of an Australian man is a caricature of Crocodile Dundee. As is mine, to an extent:D But do you think the Australians mind? Should they mind? I don't think so.

    Americans appear to have very different standards of racism from one race to the next. They feel they have to bend over backwards not to offend select groups, but not others.

    I think no-one's immune from a joke. So a joke about fried chicken is fair game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    So is this news report racist too?

    @0:30 - Suggestion : well then go home and cook them something so they don't end up a lazy fat pig like you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    **** these PC Americans in their white asses, **** em!
    Nothing at all got to do with them. Idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭Bazzy


    It's easy

    Get someone from

    1 Afghanistan
    2 Akrotiri
    3 Albania
    4 Algeria
    5 American Samoa
    6 Andorra
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    And hand them all a piece of chicken and everyone will be happy then and kfc will have a great name.

    But getting 258 people to a cricket game would be a miracle in itself!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    So is this news report racist too?


    "............... But no one was listening."


    That is brilliant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    Thankfully the Aussies are getting a lesson on how to treat minorities from the US :) The thing is, this isn't a one off ad. There's a whole series of ads of him handing chicken out to people. It perpetuates the stereotype that humans like fried chicken.
    and why are african americans getting upset, they dont even feature in the ad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    Funny how the report about silly political correctness is itself guilty of silly political correctness.
    Xavi6 wrote: »
    KFC has pulled a controversial TV ad amid claims its depiction of a white Australian cricket fan offering fried chicken to West Indies supporters is racist.

    Some Americans accused Australians of being racist because it perpetuates a stereotype that African Americans eat a lot of fried chicken.
    Are all black people "African Americans" now? What about africans?

    TBH I blame KFC, and other businesses who validate this nonsense by reacting to it. Shows KFC's estimation for the intelligence of their customers, no?


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Christine Shapely Martian




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Dr_Phil


    That white fella should've taken the chicken of the those people. Then it'd be absolutely correct I guess?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭InKonspikuou2


    This PC bullshít is madness. Why would KFC purposely set out to offend a group of it's biggest customers.

    I was in the US a few years ago with some mates and we went to a party. A mate was was talking to a bunch of black lads and he happened to be drinking a bottle of hennessy. When he took it out to mix it he just asked if they wanted any. A row broke out because it's a stereotype that black people drink hennessy thanks to rap videos. Funny thing is, if i had of done it they would've just called me a spic or beaner or something and that would've been the end of it. It's only racist when you are white.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭K-Ren


    I find the notion of a white person feeding black people far more shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭quinnthebin


    So is this news report racist too?

    unbelievably so - they purposely interviewed all the African Americans - airbrushing out any white dudes - and then found the fairest skinned presenter they could to cover the story - shame on them :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 875 ✭✭✭Caco


    Singling this one ad out for criticism is itself racist.

    True, it also reinforces the stereotype when they give in to these things. I wonder how many complaints need to be made before something like this is pulled?


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 johnmike


    that ad just made me hungry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Dang, that look tasty!
    PORNAPSTER wrote: »
    I want KFC now.... :(
    magnia wrote: »
    Wish I hadnt watched that ad now.

    Im starving and I cant go get a bucket for another 3 hours.
    johnmike wrote: »
    that ad just made me hungry

    I never realised there was so many African-Americans on boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Caco wrote: »
    True, it also reinforces the stereotype when they give in to these things. I wonder how many complaints need to be made before something like this is pulled?

    Not much id say.

    Only 40,000 people viewed the ad after the ad was taken down. I'd say a handful of people complained then the media made a big deal out of it, publishing the story and quoting one or two quotes from randomers on the web, KFC said its not worth the hassle of defending the ad so they decide to take it down.

    The ad is clearly not racist but its hardly worth KFC's time defending the ad and getting involved in a racism debate.

    Like i said before more media BS than PC brigade/americans gone mad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭Horsefumbler


    KFC is f*ckin delicious! Nothing like a properly put together, piping hot zinger tower. mmmm :cool:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    Since everyone clearly loves fried chicken, including people from the West Indies, having an ad in which they specifically weren't receiving said chicken, would be racist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    In live in one of the West Iindies islands. They f**king love KFC here. There are 4 KFC restaurants here and neither a McDonalds nor a Burger King. To depict a West Indian loving KFC would generally be completely true.

    This is the point of the ad too - it depicts a West Indian, not an 'African American'.

    I call racism on the person who saw the ad and picked up on the colour of a persons skin ahead of the obvious nationality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Why in god's name would anyone in America be watching ads featuring cricket?
    This is offically the stupidest thing in the histoy of the universe and I'm loving it.
    Ronald?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Rev. BlueJeans


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Ask a black person, see if they are offended.

    Unlikely that a reasonable black person would be.

    Most of this sh1t is derived from liberal whites getting upset on someone else's behalf, usually without cause or justification.

    It's one of the reasons that our asylum system is so ineffectual, and half the UK is afraid to celebrate Christmas or fly their own flag.

    If we had true equality, instead of public over-compensation and private resentment as a result, we'd have an awful lot less hassle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    It's a bad advertisement, putting aside the PC talk, the marketing behind the ad is retarded. There's one white bloke who seems stressed out over all the noise that the crowd are making, who are pretty much all black. He gives them fried chicken to "quieten" them down. It was bound to kick up a stink somewhere. People in marketing should never leave themselves open to this kind of controversy, and in this case they left themselves wide open for an attack from the "PC" brigade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭actuallylike


    Six per cent voted "I'm not sure".

    What I want to know is, who are these people that vote in opinion polls when they don't actually have an opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Btw, where does this stererotype of black people eating fried chicken come from? Surely, by giving this stereotype the time of day is in itself racist. I mean, it's bloody
    ludicrous to suggest that a particular race likes this particular type of food more than any other "race". Especially in the US, where the fat c***s are just as likely to be white as they are black. It also amuses me that the majority of people commontating on the ad in the US seem to be white.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Was over in London last year and went to a caribbean bbq (which was run by guys from the caribbean). They had a 15ft wide grill full of chicken. So are they racist now as well or is this another its only racist if a white guy does it?


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    bonerm wrote: »
    I never realised there was so many African-Americans on boards.
    Break yo damn self!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Black people like fried chicken, so what?
    It's not poltically correct to say it in public, it would seem. It's also not poltically correct to say that it's the fat yanks fault that they ate too much KFC. Instead, it's okay to sue KFC for making them fat...:rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What if the black folks gave the honkey the chicken, would that be the same?

    Are black people not allowed in chicken ads anymore?

    I am disappoint..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Kipperhell


    You should check this out
    http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/
    Apparently this is written by a white guy but some of the things up on it about perceived racism is quite bizarre. The guy seems to suffer from a cultural tunnel vision unaware of other societies than the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Kipperhell wrote: »
    You should check this out
    http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/
    Apparently this is written by a white guy but some of the things up on it about perceived racism is quite bizarre. The guy seems to suffer from a cultural tunnel vision unaware of other societies than the US.

    That's too heavy going. Summarise it for us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    That's too heavy going. Summarise it for us.

    OK.

    Black guys dive like .... this.
    White guys drive like ..... this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I think there's been only one post so far bringing up Nationality. If you were an Ireland fan alone at an away game for a match against say France, and you got a seat among French fans then it would be an awkward moment at first perhaps!

    Give them KFC then to loosen things up i guess :rolleyes:


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