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Microsoft Asks Colleges to Teach Hacking

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  • 22-03-2003 9:48pm
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    Microsoft is working with a number of universities in several countries to set up courses that teach students how to write secure code, the company said Friday. The University of Leeds in England is the first to announce such a course.

    As part of an 11 week module that will start in January next year, third-year undergraduates at the University of Leeds will be asked to hack into software and fix any security bugs they find, Nick Efford, senior teaching fellow at the School of Computing, University of Leeds, said.

    "We are going to get our students to think about software in a different way and look at software with a different perspective. We will give them examples of software and will ask them to perform a security audit of it and identify things that are insecure and then ask them to fix the problems," Efford said.

    Students will be confronted with security vulnerabilities such as buffer overruns and taught how to prevent those when writing software. That focus on security in software engineering and the hands-on experience makes the course different from most existing security classes, which typically focus on network security and cryptography, according to Efford.

    Microsoft is partly funding Efford's fellowship and is helping with the curriculum's content. The Redmond, Washington, software maker is in talks with other universities on similar programs, Stuart Okin, chief security officer for Microsoft in the U.K. said.

    could you imagine doing THAT in ireland, people paying for college to learn how to hack lol...

    although its a crash course in better coding, you might see some complaints

    ;)


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    Nice article, but once again your comments leave me wondering "what is he on about?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,428 ✭✭✭Gerry


    We were thinking of something like this for our computer society in maynooth. ( http://minds.may.ie ) We'd code up stuff with deliberate mistakes, and see could people spot them, get them to fix them and retest them. Make it fun by having one person trying to break it and another trying to fix it at the same time, etc etc. Would be even better to get microsoft to sponsor it, add that touch of irony.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    Sounds like secure programming more than "hacking"

    Anyway, colleges are always development areas for "hackers". You'll always find kids messing with the networks and trying to break into diff systems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭theciscokid


    Originally posted by ecksor
    Nice article, but once again your comments leave me wondering "what is he on about?"

    but once again? :p

    the minute you mention the word hacker/hacking in ireland especially to businesses , most of them will freeze up and think the worst,,

    i think that such a move would not work in ireland,

    as to what gerry said thats an excellent idea


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭jd


    Originally posted by Gerry
    We were thinking of something like this for our computer society in maynooth. ( http://minds.may.ie ) We'd code up stuff with deliberate mistakes, and see could people spot them, get them to fix them and retest them. Make it fun by having one person trying to break it and another trying to fix it at the same time, etc etc. Would be even better to get microsoft to sponsor it, add that touch of irony.

    The point is, it's better to teach people how to code securely in the first place (philosophically-or from an engineering perspective-you build a bridge with x degrees of redundancy as a matter of principle), rather than write the code and then look for vulnerabilities ("hack" your own code) after you have written it.

    hic


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