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Upcoming Iranian Nuclear talks.

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  • #52
    The Israeli
    Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭The Israeli


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4236554,00.html

    That's what I was talking about.

    The Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS) said Thursday that new satellite images indicate that Iran is continuing in its efforts to "destroy evidence" of suspected nuclear activity.
    "The images shows what appears to be further sanitization activity at the site in the Parchin military complex, where Iran is suspected to have conducted high explosive tests pertinent to the development of nuclear weapons," ISIS said.
    UN nuclear watchdog stated that "based on satellite imagery, at this location, where virtually no activity had been observed for a number of years, the buildings of interest to the Agency are now subject to extensive activities that could hamper the Agency’s ability to undertake effective verification."
    Western envoys who attended Wednesday's briefing said that two small side buildings at the Parchin military facility had been removed and ISIS said that they "have been completely razed."
    The disclosure followed inconclusive talks between Iran and six world powers in Baghdad last week to address concerns about the nature of its nuclear activities, which Iran says are aimed at generating electricity.
    "Heavy machinery tracks and extensive evidence of earth displacement is also visible throughout the interior as well as the exterior of the site's perimeter," the think-tank said.
    The UN International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has repeatedly asked Iran for access to Parchin as part of a long-stalled probe into suspicions that Tehran may be seeking the ability to assemble nuclear bombs, should it decide to do so.
    The Islamic state has so far refused to let inspectors visit the facility – which it describes as a conventional military complex – saying there must first be a broader framework agreement on how to address the IAEA's questions.
    Iran's IAEA envoy, Ali Asghar Soltanieh, dismissed such accusations by Western officials, telling reporters after the briefing at IAEA headquarters that "this kind of noise and allegations are baseless."


  • #53
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    The Israeli wrote: »
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4236554,00.html

    That's what I was talking about.

    OK, but the problem is that this is a military base, and what there doing could be anything. Jumping to the conclusion of a cover up is imho a bit silly, especially as Iran did allow in inspectors there before, and they found nothing.


  • #54
    The Israeli
    Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭The Israeli


    wes wrote: »
    OK, but the problem is that this is a military base, and what there doing could be anything. Jumping to the conclusion of a cover up is imho a bit silly, especially as Iran did allow in inspectors there before, and they found nothing.

    Maybe, but the problem is that if only authorized nuclear facilities for visits will be visited, and they would be prepared for the visits beforehand then all this inspections are of no use, and give Iran time to develop military nuclear projects (if they do) in the meanwhile.


  • #55
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    The Israeli wrote: »
    Maybe, but the problem is that if only authorized nuclear facilities for visits will be visited, and they would be prepared for the visits beforehand then all this inspections are of no use, and give Iran time to develop military nuclear projects (if they do) in the meanwhile.

    Well the people who wanted military sites exempted was the US and Russia. If such an exemption makes the NPT useless, well we know who is to blame.


  • #56
    The Israeli
    Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭The Israeli


    wes wrote: »
    Well the people who wanted military sites exempted was the US and Russia. If such an exemption makes the NPT useless, well we know who is to blame.

    What's the alternative? It's better than doing nothing at all.
    The Iranians are playing games, and the west should keep all options open. I don't know why this statement should anger anyone who opposes nuclear weapon in the hands of the Iranian regime.


  • #57
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    The Israeli wrote: »
    What's the alternative? It's better than doing nothing at all.

    Well, there was a deal that Brazil and Turkey sorted out, until the US messed that right up. Plenty of alternatives, but it seems to me that its America's way or the highway.
    The Israeli wrote: »
    The Iranians are playing games, and the west should keep all options open.

    If anyone is playing games its the US. First they ruin the potential deal that Brazil and Turkey almost got done, and there now offering 0 concessions in the current talks. Seems to me that Iran is offering some compromise, where as the US, isn't offering any at all.
    The Israeli wrote: »
    I don't know why this statement should anger anyone who opposes nuclear weapon in the hands of the Iranian regime.

    Well, you see the anger comes from some of us, not believing that Iran is seeking nuclear weapons, as the people making that claim, also made that claim about Iraq. You kind of lose credibility, when the last time you were caught in a blatant lie, or maybe they were just incompetent. Either way, its kind hard to take such accusations seriously.


  • #58
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    wes wrote: »
    Well, you see the anger comes from some of us, not believing that Iran is seeking nuclear weapons, as the people making that claim, also made that claim about Iraq.

    Yep. A little investigative googling of the ISIS (as quoted by The Irsraeli) turns up some interesting funders.

    I also found this little gem
    I personally believe there's plenty of evidence for biological and chemical, and there's sufficient evidence to believe that there's a reconstituted nuclear weapons program.
    —David Albright, PBS Interview Oct 1, 2002

    David Albright is the founder of the ISIS and said the above about Iraq in the run up to the 2003 invasion.


  • #59
    Eggy Baby!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    David Albright is the founder of the ISIS and said the above about Iraq in the run up to the 2003 invasion.

    The rest was history...


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