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Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

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  • #5402
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Who have been ramping up the pressure? You going to blame Celtic now for what the media do? :rolleyes:

    Not Celtic, but their fans.

    There's no denying that over the last few weeks the prospect of winning it at Ibrox was obsessing them.


  • #5403
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Not Celtic, but their fans.

    There's no denying that over the last few weeks the prospect of winning it at Ibrox was obsessing them.

    Of course not - no denying that whatsoever. Are you reading my posts though? What bits are you having trouble understanding? You are stating very obvious facts there. The point is the result in a league game has made no material difference to the destination of the SPL title.

    Therefore, in my mind at least, I don't see it as that big a deal. I'd be a lot more pissed off this morning if that result had meant another title slipping away. When we went down to 9, I just thought "meh" to be honest.

    Sorry I'm not more pissed off though! :D:D


  • #5404
    Ladjacket
    Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Ladjacket


    Rangers were the better team. Cant understand where these people are coming from when they say that Celtic were gonna hammer them, at Ibrox? When was the last time we done that? Given the explosive nature of the game, the pride of the Rangers players would have been more than enough to see them over the line.

    Add in that we are still hurting from the cup final defeat, the traumatic week or two the manager has had and it makes for a tough time.

    Then people are calling for the managers head... Ridiculous! The success stories of the past two seasons have been Forster, Mulgrew, Ledley, Izzy, Kayal, Hooper, Wanyama. These are all Lennon's signings. To say that we need an experienced manager to get to the next level is delusional. Scottish football is in the doldrums, the best we can hope for in the current climate is a Champions League spot and maybe fluke a last 16 spot at best IMO.

    Celtic have in my view the best fans in the world, but like every team, have a minority who make you feel like banging your head against a wall. Calling for the managers head, having just overseen a 21 game unbeaten league run, league cup runners up, and in the last 4 of the Scottish Cup aint too bad!!


  • #5405
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    Interesting. You only see the other team's players butchering around ;)

    Which sometimes applies to both sides of Glasgow

    Interesting you chose to pull me up for that hwn the post before mine is doing it the other way ;)
    I made the point about Wanyama for just that reason I am well aware it was going on both ways


  • #5406
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Of course not - no denying that whatsoever. Are you reading my posts though? What bits are you having trouble understanding? You are stating very obvious facts there. The point is the result in a league game has made no material difference to the destination of the SPL title.

    Therefore, in my mind at least, I don't see it as that big a deal. I'd be a lot more pissed off this morning if that result had meant another title slipping away. When we went down to 9, I just thought "meh" to be honest.

    Sorry I'm not more pissed off though! :D:D

    No problem, for every Celtic fan that isn't too bothered there's 10 who are absolutely distraught :D


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  • #5407
    Ladjacket
    Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Ladjacket


    im not distraught in the slightest.

    why? because i have waited three years to win the league. One more week sure as hell won't bother me! The league title is what matters. Doubles and trebles are great when they happen, but the league is what matters. And we are gonna win it.


  • #5408
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Ladjacket wrote: »
    im not distraught in the slightest.

    why? because i have waited three years to win the league. One more week sure as hell won't bother me! The league title is what matters. Doubles and trebles are great when they happen, but the league is what matters. And we are gonna win it.

    I'll second that, I have never seen a celtic crowd so indifferent at being 3-0 down to the gers.(the pub where i was watching)

    Getting back to 3-2 had everyone in party mode. If we had of performed like that with the league in the balance I wouldn't be fit to post here today.


  • #5409
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,322 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    No problem, for every Celtic fan that isn't too bothered there's 10 who are absolutely distraught :D

    I'm not sure that's true, winning yesterday would've been the icing on the cake but for me the winning the Championship is far more important. I do think however that Rangers winning the game yesterday is a huge boost to your team not just the result but the performance of your team will I'd imagine give a bit of light at the end of the tunnel after the last few weeks.


  • #5410
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    It also means that if we beat Motherwell you can't be champions next week, is that true ?


  • #5411
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,322 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    It also means that if we beat Motherwell you can't be champions next week, is that true ?

    Yeah looks that way, if we both win next week there'll be an 18 point gap with 6 games to play so still not over the line


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  • #5412
    Eirebear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    It also means that if we beat Motherwell you can't be champions next week, is that true ?

    Yeah, if we beat Motherwell Celtic need 4pts.


  • #5413
    Brewster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Brewster


    One of the disappointments of the day was Lenny how he reacted to defeat. I am on record here praising Lenny's behaviour this season, I really felt he learned his lessons from last season but clearly this is not the case. The last two defeats have proven he has a hell of a lot to learn. You just look at his opposite number McCoist and how he conducts himself. I thought his gesture to stand hidden in the tunnel to shake the hands of every Celtic player was a class act. You just can't imagine Lenny doing the same, he'd be too busy giving it laldy on the pitch!!I think Lenny had to show more leadership when the chips are down. Great leaders emerge in times of adversity.


  • #5414
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    RFC statement: "Neil Lennon was offered a seat in the Director’s Box ... this offer was declined by Celtic’s security staff ”

    So far for 'That sums this country up' eh Neil ?


  • #5415
    Ladjacket
    Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Ladjacket


    Brewster wrote: »
    One of the disappointments of the day was Lenny how he reacted to defeat. I am on record here praising Lenny's behaviour this season, I really felt he learned his lessons from last season but clearly this is not the case. The last two defeats have proven he has a hell of a lot to learn. You just look at his opposite number McCoist and how he conducts himself. I thought his gesture to stand hidden in the tunnel to shake the hands of every Celtic player was a class act. You just can't imagine Lenny doing the same, he'd be too busy giving it laldy on the pitch!!I think Lenny had to show more leadership when the chips are down. Great leaders emerge in times of adversity.

    To be honest I didnt see McCoist do this, but if he did, then fair play to him. Keep in mind however that McCoist has been taught how to handle the pressures of managing a big club from Walter Smith over the last few years. One only needs to watch Smith try to restrain McCoist at the so called 'Shame-Game' last season. Lennon got the Celtic job after a shambles led by Mowbray. He worked under Strachan fair enough, but Strachan could be a tetchy little so and so as well.

    I think Neil lets himself down on occasion but the change in him this year compared to last is remarkable, he is literally learning on the job each day. And we all need to realise, the man was speaking minutes after what he perceived as a travesty against his players and himself. He was pi$$ed with the ref, add in the fact that he had been told his safety could not be guaranteed in the directors box etc. I am sure that upon reflection, his comments may be different.

    Finally, after the inept displays in WGS's final year and finding myself being almost ashamed to support Celtic in the Mowbray days (however short thankfully), I have a lot to thank Neil Lennon for. And when the manager of the team I support is getting threatened to an inch of his life, he needs our support as much as the team do. He is not infallible or free from criticism, but Celtic fans...we are going to win the league. For the first time in 3 years, the league title is ours again. And that is all that matters.


  • #5416
    Ladjacket
    Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Ladjacket


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    RFC statement: "Neil Lennon was offered a seat in the Director’s Box ... this offer was declined by Celtic’s security staff ”

    So far for 'That sums this country up' eh Neil ?

    Perspective here please!! Rather than both RFC and CFC fans trying to point score on this, I think that the offer was declined by CFC security as they felt his safety could not be guaranteed. I think that RFC would have done their utmost to protect him.

    LEt's face it Jelle1880, Lennon has been very humble in a lot of his interviews toward RFC recently, as recent as yesterday when pre-game he was asked about winning the title and he refused to comment. When he felt that his press conferences were being bogged down about RFC's woes, he stopped them.

    Some RFC fans want to see the worst in him, but they should open their eyes.


  • #5417
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Why would his safety not be guaranteed in the director's box ?

    nm6wU.jpg

    All I'm saying is that Lennon himself said he wasn't allowed in the director's box, then came out with 'That sums up this country'.

    While both Celtic and Rangers said that he was offered a spot there.

    I'm not talking about his behaviour, I'm sure he would have been perfectly fine and safe, but I don't see why he felt the need to make that comment.


  • #5418
    Ladjacket
    Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Ladjacket


    there is a difference between lennon taking in a game between RFC and say Inverness at Ibrox as opposed to being sent off at half time and watching second half from the box. Surely you can see that?

    It sums up the country in that people felt his safety could not be guaranteed. Someone, somewhere said to him yesterday that 'we feel your safety cannot be guaranteed'.


  • #5419
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Why would his safety not be guaranteed in the director's box ?

    nm6wU.jpg

    All I'm saying is that Lennon himself said he wasn't allowed in the director's box, then came out with 'That sums up this country'.

    While both Celtic and Rangers said that he was offered a spot there.

    I'm not talking about his behaviour, I'm sure he would have been perfectly fine and safe, but I don't see why he felt the need to make that comment.

    Is that a coat behind Lenny, or have the PLO managed to get into the Rangers director's box also? :)


  • #5420
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Hey, Arafat did have millions stashed away :pac:


  • #5421
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Hey, Arafat did have millions stashed away :pac:

    Maybe he'll make a bid for yiz lol!


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  • #5422
    Brewster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Brewster


    Ladjacket wrote: »
    Brewster wrote: »
    One of the disappointments of the day was Lenny how he reacted to defeat. I am on record here praising Lenny's behaviour this season, I really felt he learned his lessons from last season but clearly this is not the case. The last two defeats have proven he has a hell of a lot to learn. You just look at his opposite number McCoist and how he conducts himself. I thought his gesture to stand hidden in the tunnel to shake the hands of every Celtic player was a class act. You just can't imagine Lenny doing the same, he'd be too busy giving it laldy on the pitch!!I think Lenny had to show more leadership when the chips are down. Great leaders emerge in times of adversity.

    To be honest I didnt see McCoist do this, but if he did, then fair play to him. Keep in mind however that McCoist has been taught how to handle the pressures of managing a big club from Walter Smith over the last few years. One only needs to watch Smith try to restrain McCoist at the so called 'Shame-Game' last season. Lennon got the Celtic job after a shambles led by Mowbray. He worked under Strachan fair enough, but Strachan could be a tetchy little so and so as well.

    I think Neil lets himself down on occasion but the change in him this year compared to last is remarkable, he is literally learning on the job each day. And we all need to realise, the man was speaking minutes after what he perceived as a travesty against his players and himself. He was pi$$ed with the ref, add in the fact that he had been told his safety could not be guaranteed in the directors box etc. I am sure that upon reflection, his comments may be different.

    Finally, after the inept displays in WGS's final year and finding myself being almost ashamed to support Celtic in the Mowbray days (however short thankfully), I have a lot to thank Neil Lennon for. And when the manager of the team I support is getting threatened to an inch of his life, he needs our support as much as the team do. He is not infallible or free from criticism, but Celtic fans...we are going to win the league. For the first time in 3 years, the league title is ours again. And that is all that matters.

    A number of very fair and reasoned points raised... He just has to learn to deal with defeat in a more reasoned manner. At the very very best, the Cha decision was a 50 50 call. Listening to Lenny, youd think it was the worst decision since time began!! He will lose creditability as a manager commenting on decisions such as this when players are routinely sent off for such offenses in the modern game!


  • #5423
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Why would his safety not be guaranteed in the director's box ?

    nm6wU.jpg

    All I'm saying is that Lennon himself said he wasn't allowed in the director's box, then came out with 'That sums up this country'.

    While both Celtic and Rangers said that he was offered a spot there.

    I'm not talking about his behaviour, I'm sure he would have been perfectly fine and safe, but I don't see why he felt the need to make that comment.

    Your utter hatred stands in the way of logic yet again.

    Security professionals advised Lennon his safety was not guaranteed in the stands and wouldn't let him go there this led him to say 'That sums up this country'. He said it because security professionals felt it was unsafe, it wasn't pulled out of his arse.

    He never said he felt his safety was at risk.

    This hysteria about Lennon and twisting of everything he says is what has his life at risk.

    Think before you participate in that nonsense, do you really want to be one of those people?


  • #5424
    Joyce Country
    Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭Joyce Country


    Lennon is dead right. Are any of the rangers fans on here seriously trying to tell that if it was someone other than a irish catholic there would been have been a problem with him going up into the box? Strachan would have got up there without fears for his security i'm sure. Keep denying the bigotry that's alive at your club. Hopefully after liquidation the newco Rangers FC in whatever form it takes will be more tolerant.


  • #5425
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    PauloMN wrote: »
    Of course not - no denying that whatsoever. Are you reading my posts though? What bits are you having trouble understanding? You are stating very obvious facts there. The point is the result in a league game has made no material difference to the destination of the SPL title.

    Therefore, in my mind at least, I don't see it as that big a deal. I'd be a lot more pissed off this morning if that result had meant another title slipping away. When we went down to 9, I just thought "meh" to be honest.

    Sorry I'm not more pissed off though! :D:D

    No problem, for every Celtic fan that isn't too bothered there's 10 who are absolutely distraught :D
    Were you at the game, or meet many Celtic fans on your day to day activities? When you lot scored the 2nd and then 3rd goals, the Broomloan was jumping, dancing, singing, waving flags and balloons. The noise we made actually shut you lot up and dulled your own celebrations.

    We were brutal, Aluko done to us what Kenny Miller done two year ago and Naismith done last year. Would have loved to win it yesterday, it never happened so hats off to the rangers players who have been hiding the last few weeks to turn it on against us. Distraught?? You wish.

    WE'RE ONLY HERE FOR THE PARTY.


  • #5426
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    Were you at the game, or meet many Celtic fans on your day to day activities? When you lot scored the 2nd and then 3rd goals, the Broomloan was jumping, dancing, singing, waving flags and balloons. The noise we made actually shut you lot up and dulled your own celebrations.

    We were brutal, Aluko done to us what Kenny Miller done two year ago and Naismith done last year. Would have loved to win it yesterday, it never happened so hats off to the rangers players who have been hiding the last few weeks to turn it on against us. Distraught?? You wish.

    WE'RE ONLY HERE FOR THE PARTY.

    Me thinks you had a few too much before the game.

    Outsang from start to finish, every time you started a song it was countered right away.

    6zyee8.jpg


  • #5427
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    Your utter hatred stands in the way of logic yet again.

    Security professionals advised Lennon his safety was not guaranteed in the stands and wouldn't let him go there this led him to say 'That sums up this country'. He said it because security professionals felt it was unsafe, it wasn't pulled out of his arse.

    He never said he felt his safety was at risk.

    This hysteria about Lennon and twisting of everything he says is what has his life at risk.

    Think before you participate in that nonsense, do you really want to be one of those people?

    Celtic security professionals, you mean.

    Has nothing to do with hatred, he was perfectly able to go to the director's box, risk-free.

    It's Celtic people that, for some weird reason, decided against it.

    To then come out with, and I quote:
    Lennon said: “I would’ve sat in the stand but I was told by Rangers’ security people that wasn’t a good idea.
    “That sums up this country.”
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/celtic/2012/03/26/celtic-boss-neil-lennon-security-told-me-i-couldn-t-watch-from-ibrox-stand-that-sums-up-this-country-86908-23801741/


  • #5428
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,287 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Outsang from start to finish, every time you started a song it was countered right away.

    I would expect so considering the Celtic fans were outnumbered 6 to 1. I heard plenty of Celtic singing during the game


  • #5429
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    Were you at the game, or meet many Celtic fans on your day to day activities? When you lot scored the 2nd and then 3rd goals, the Broomloan was jumping, dancing, singing, waving flags and balloons. The noise we made actually shut you lot up and dulled your own celebrations.

    We were brutal, Aluko done to us what Kenny Miller done two year ago and Naismith done last year. Would have loved to win it yesterday, it never happened so hats off to the rangers players who have been hiding the last few weeks to turn it on against us. Distraught?? You wish.

    WE'RE ONLY HERE FOR THE PARTY.

    Me thinks you had a few too much before the game.

    Outsang from start to finish, every time you started a song it was countered right away.
    Nonsense. The first hour I can give you that, from then on though when we knew it was game over, it was party time. Again, were you there yesterday? Do you meet many Celtic fans in your day to day activities?


  • #5430
    Brewster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Brewster


    I see Lenny will be hauled before the SFA following yesterday's events at Ibrox. I truly hope this is the last time this happens and that he learns his lesson this time. I think he could be a great Celtic manager and this sort of thing sullies his character unfortunately. Lawwell needs to take him aside and explain that his behaviour at times is unacceptable. I don't know what the answer is? An anger management course?


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  • #5431
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    No I wasn't there, but the microphones around the ground don't lie.

    Normally with these games it's pretty much always the away fans who are loudest (like when you won 0-2 last year with the New Year's game), but this time Ibrox was rocking during the entire game.

    I'm not denying that the Celtic fans were partying, but I didn't notice a thing from it.


  • #5432
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Joyce Country wrote: »
    Lennon is dead right. Are any of the rangers fans on here seriously trying to tell that if it was someone other than a irish catholic there would been have been a problem with him going up into the box? Strachan would have got up there without fears for his security i'm sure. Keep denying the bigotry that's alive at your club. Hopefully after liquidation the newco Rangers FC in whatever form it takes will be more tolerant.

    Oh yes there is a problem with bigots in our club I won't deny it is Lennon hated because he is an Irish Catholic by most again there are those who do feel this way but most no I don't believe so. Why then is he hated because he is ignorant he very rarely gives credit to Rangers oh he did yesterday but even then there had to be a but in it.
    What will you do if liquidation does not happen and I am not very sure it will you are coming over as though you will have a breakdown oh well


  • #5433
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Lennon is not hated because he's an Irish Catholic, he's hated because he's an obnoxious chav.


  • #5434
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    Brewster wrote: »
    I see Lenny will be hauled before the SFA following yesterday's events at Ibrox. I truly hope this is the last time this happens and that he learns his lesson this time. I think he could be a great Celtic manager and this sort of thing sullies his character unfortunately. Lawwell needs to take him aside and explain that his behaviour at times is unacceptable. I don't know what the answer is? An anger management course?
    Another reason that it would be great for him to do as you suggest is it would mean we'd see the back of you. Soon as Lenny is in the news for the wrong reasons you're on here telling us all how appalling it is. When he was leading the team on a great winning run you're nowhere to be seen.


  • #5435
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Celtic security professionals, you mean.

    Has nothing to do with hatred, he was perfectly able to go to the director's box, risk-free.

    It's Celtic people that, for some weird reason, decided against it.

    To then come out with, and I quote:


    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/celtic/2012/03/26/celtic-boss-neil-lennon-security-told-me-i-couldn-t-watch-from-ibrox-stand-that-sums-up-this-country-86908-23801741/

    We know Rangers offered him a seat and that Celtics security staff decided it was unsafe, we dont know what Rangers security staff said or didn't say about it.

    Common sense would tell us that he should not be seated in close proximity to fans after he has been subjected to a sustained hate campaign by a section of these fans (including death threats and attempted bombings), given that yet again the scottish media tried to ramp up tensions all week.

    Who the hell are you (or me) to categorically state it was risk free. What a stupid statement to make.

    Again you have to vilify the man regardless of the facts or context, you and people like you wont stop till some baboon decides to kill him.

    Why cant you enjoy a fantastic win without feeling the need to sustain the lennon hate campaign. It makes me sick


  • #5436
    eire4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭eire4


    I see a number of people on here really very critical of Neil Lennon which of course they are entitled to be. For myself I disagree. I think firstly we must remember how young Lennon is from a managerial standpoint. He is not really much beyond a novice at this stage after 2 years in the job at Celtic. He clearly is learning and improving but there is a bit of "learning on the job" factor so to speak. For me I feel he got yesterdays team selection wrong. I would have started Samaras up front and had Commons on from the start on the left and no way would Cha have been in the lineup. But having said all that we have in Neil Lennon, the coaching staff and this Celtic team a very young group who I believe are in the early days of a very special time for Celtic. For me Neil Lennon is an inspiration on and off the field as Celtic manager. The racist hatred for him from the other side will just make it feel all the sweeter when Neil Lennon holds aloft that Championship trophy:D


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  • #5437
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Lennon is not hated because he's an Irish Catholic, he's hated because he's an obnoxious chav.

    Yes because the far right element of Rangers support have been trying to get rid of obnoxious chav's for decades. :rolleyes:

    At least be honest with yourself.

    Plenty of Rangers fans dislike Lennon for being obnoxious.

    The ones who hate him however cant use that excuse.

    I refuse to believe someones life can be at risk for being obnoxious.


  • #5438
    Brewster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Brewster


    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    Brewster wrote: »
    I see Lenny will be hauled before the SFA following yesterday's events at Ibrox. I truly hope this is the last time this happens and that he learns his lesson this time. I think he could be a great Celtic manager and this sort of thing sullies his character unfortunately. Lawwell needs to take him aside and explain that his behaviour at times is unacceptable. I don't know what the answer is? An anger management course?
    Another reason that it would be great for him to do as you suggest is it would mean we'd see the back of you. Soon as Lenny is in the news for the wrong reasons you're on here telling us all how appalling it is. When he was leading the team on a great winning run you're nowhere to be seen.

    Rubbish, if you read back a few months you will see I was singing his praises. He did a remarkable job in turning Celtic's season around and I stated this. Literally a few weeks ago, I was praising him for totally transforming his behaviour from last season. However, I was premature in this praise it seems. So get down off your high horse, I call it as I see it, and Lenny was bang out of order with his comments both last weekend and yesterday. It's not the sort of behaviour I would want to see in the manager of my club. If you think it is appropriate Lubo then good luck to you, clearly we have very different standards....


  • #5439
    Broxi_Bear_Eire
    Registered Users Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    eire4 wrote: »
    I see a number of people on here really very critical of Neil Lennon which of course they are entitled to be. For myself I disagree. I think firstly we must remember how young Lennon is from a managerial standpoint. He is not really much beyond a novice at this stage after 2 years in the job at Celtic. He clearly is learning and improving but there is a bit of "learning on the job" factor so to speak. For me I feel he got yesterdays team selection wrong. I would have started Samaras up front and had Commons on from the start on the left and no way would Cha have been in the lineup. But having said all that we have in Neil Lennon, the coaching staff and this Celtic team a very young group who I believe are in the early days of a very special time for Celtic. For me Neil Lennon is an inspiration on and off the field as Celtic manager. The racist hatred for him from the other side will just make it feel all the sweeter when Neil Lennon holds aloft that Championship trophy:D

    You talk a lot of crap there was no racist abuse towards him yesterday unless calling him a wanker is racist.


  • #5440
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    Yes because the far right element of Rangers support have been trying to get rid of obnoxious chav's for decades. :rolleyes:

    At least be honest with yourself.

    Plenty of Rangers fans dislike Lennon for being obnoxious.

    The ones who hate him however cant use that excuse.

    I refuse to believe someones life can be at risk for being obnoxious.

    I see you're still maintaining the myth that those who sent those packages to him are Rangers fans.

    Do you even know where the director boxes are at Ibrox ?

    They're surrounded by stewards and staff, he would have been perfectly safe.


  • #5441
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    I see you're still maintaining the myth that those who sent those packages to him are Rangers fans.

    Do you even know where the director boxes are at Ibrox ?

    They're surrounded by stewards and staff, he would have been perfectly safe.

    Incredibly disingenuous response. I wasn't just referring to the package senders.

    Do i really need to link to Rangers fans making death threats online?

    Do you need to be reminded about the 2 Rangers fans who kicked Lennon till he was unconscious back in 2003?

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/neil_lennon_assault_pair_jailed_for_brutal_attack_on_ex_celtic_captain_1_754340

    During the trial (about the attempted parcel bomb murder) Muirhead has been very carefull not to call himself a Rangers fan but has admitted sending the package was related to Rangers losing to Celtic and to having attended Rangers matches at Ibrox.

    Regarding his safety at Ibrox

    He would more than likely have been safe but it is too accessible to be described as risk free.

    Given the threats made against Lennon it can not be denied that not sitting close to the fans was the sensible action to take.

    For one it wouldn't have been planned for security wise and the extra security and stewards needed would have to be removed from other roles.

    Keep it up ye'll get someone to kill him yet.


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  • #5442
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Wise up, the idiots that sent those packages have **** all to do with Rangers.

    The two guys that kicked him and the threats online, agreed, and they'll be punished accordingly (or already have been punished).


  • #5443
    bobmalooka
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Aye, because it's all the big bad Rangers' fault.

    Wise up, the idiots that sent those packages have **** all to do with Rangers.

    The two guys that kicked him and the threats online, agreed, and they'll be punished accordingly.

    Who blamed Rangers?? As a club knowbody is suggesting Rangers did anything wrong, they offered him a seat it was declined then they offered him a different area to go. Fair play to them.

    I know they have feck all to do with Rangers but they have admitted to going to Ibrox to watch Rangers play.

    Do you understand it yet....

    It is proven that people who want to harm Lennon attend Rangers games at Ibrox therefore every precaution should be taken.

    That does not suggest all Rangers fans are lunatics.

    What is the problem with them taking every precaution given the history of violence and threatened violence by people who attend (or have attended) ibrox towards him?


  • #5444
    Joyce Country
    Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭Joyce Country


    Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »
    What will you do if liquidation does not happen and I am not very sure it will you are coming over as though you will have a breakdown oh well

    Well Phil Mac Giolla Bhain has been spot on till now and I'll take his word that it will happen before a ball is kicked in anger next August ;)


  • #5445
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    Brewster wrote: »
    Rubbish, if you read back a few months you will see I was singing his praises. He did a remarkable job in turning Celtic's season around and I stated this. Literally a few weeks ago, I was praising him for totally transforming his behaviour from last season. However, I was premature in this praise it seems. So get down off your high horse, I call it as I see it, and Lenny was bang out of order with his comments both last weekend and yesterday. It's not the sort of behaviour I would want to see in the manager of my club. If you think it is appropriate Lubo then good luck to you, clearly we have very different standards....

    Do you want a Blue Peter badge because at some stage you decide to throw in a compliment? You can't wait to stick the boot into him.


  • #5446
    Brewster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Brewster


    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    Brewster wrote: »
    Rubbish, if you read back a few months you will see I was singing his praises. He did a remarkable job in turning Celtic's season around and I stated this. Literally a few weeks ago, I was praising him for totally transforming his behaviour from last season. However, I was premature in this praise it seems. So get down off your high horse, I call it as I see it, and Lenny was bang out of order with his comments both last weekend and yesterday. It's not the sort of behaviour I would want to see in the manager of my club. If you think it is appropriate Lubo then good luck to you, clearly we have very different standards....

    Do you want a Blue Peter badge because at some stage you decide to throw in a compliment? You can't wait to stick the boot into him.

    I think the more appropriate question would be 'do you think Lenny deserves a Blue Peter badge for his good behaviour earlier in season?' You are barking up the wrong tree Lubo saying I want to stick the boot into him. In fact it is highly hypocritical of you given the fact that YOU wanted to show Lenny the door following a home draw with Kilmarnock last season. Remember that eh? Hmmmm. You wouldn't even have him in charge had you been in Lawwell's position. So let's keep a sense of perspective here. Lenny cannot speak about refs the way he has the last two matches, that is all I am saying. As others have said he is young, and they have a point to a degree, but when he keeps making the same mistakes, i.e being disrespectful one has to question it.


  • #5447
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Joyce Country wrote: »
    Well Phil Mac Giolla Bhain has been spot on till now and I'll take his word that it will happen before a ball is kicked in anger next August ;)

    Has he **** :D


  • #5448
    TheBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Joyce Country wrote: »
    Well Phil Mac Giolla Bhain has been spot on till now and I'll take his word that it will happen before a ball is kicked in anger next August ;)

    Aye of course, apart from us being in administration every month since August :rolleyes:

    But surprise surprise, Neil Lennon makes a show of himself, again, and all the focus is on things being our fault to try and deflect from the fact that the Celtic manager acts like a petulant teenage ned and isn't fit to represent a football team like Celtic.

    Also, technically he shouldn't have been allowed in the directors box without a wearing a shirt and tie :p


  • #5449
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    Brewster wrote: »
    I think the more appropriate question would be 'do you think Lenny deserves a Blue Peter badge for his good behaviour earlier in season?' You are barking up the wrong tree Lubo saying I want to stick the boot into him. In fact it is highly hypocritical of you given the fact that YOU wanted to show Lenny the door following a home draw with Kilmarnock last season. Remember that eh? Hmmmm. You wouldn't even have him in charge had you been in Lawwell's position. So let's keep a sense of perspective here. Lenny cannot speak about refs the way he has the last two matches, that is all I am saying. As others have said he is young, and they have a point to a degree, but when he keeps making the same mistakes, i.e being disrespectful one has to question it.
    No, I'm definitely not barking up the wrong tree, you're so predictable it's laughable man.
    Is that going back to when you called me fickle and an average football fan? Come back to me when you start going to games and even have a sniff of the passion I have for my club. You follow rugby ffs, a game for people who are **** at football.
    I said back then that it was time for him to go, yes, but that I wanted Lenny to succeed, and still do. I've stood by it all along too though that I don't think he's a manager as such, probably be better in a coaching role. He's not the man for the job in my own personal opinion, but while he's there I want nothing but success for him, and will also gladly shout down any of the begrudgers who are only too happy to say they don't support Rangers but are quick to slate him. You could be a presenter on Radio Clyde or have a column in the Record and you wouldn't be out of place.
    You'll find me here the majority of the time, win lose or draw, you will only surface when there's negative press to be discussed.


  • #5450
    Brewster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Brewster


    lubo_moravcik wrote: »
    Brewster wrote: »
    I think the more appropriate question would be 'do you think Lenny deserves a Blue Peter badge for his good behaviour earlier in season?' You are barking up the wrong tree Lubo saying I want to stick the boot into him. In fact it is highly hypocritical of you given the fact that YOU wanted to show Lenny the door following a home draw with Kilmarnock last season. Remember that eh? Hmmmm. You wouldn't even have him in charge had you been in Lawwell's position. So let's keep a sense of perspective here. Lenny cannot speak about refs the way he has the last two matches, that is all I am saying. As others have said he is young, and they have a point to a degree, but when he keeps making the same mistakes, i.e being disrespectful one has to question it.
    No, I'm definitely not barking up the wrong tree, you're so predictable it's laughable man.
    Is that going back to when you called me fickle and an average football fan? Come back to me when you start going to games and even have a sniff of the passion I have for my club. You follow rugby ffs, a game for people who are **** at football.
    I said back then that it was time for him to go, yes, but that I wanted Lenny to succeed, and still do. I've stood by it all along too though that I don't think he's a manager as such, probably be better in a coaching role. He's not the man for the job in my own personal opinion, but while he's there I want nothing but success for him, and will also gladly shout down any of the begrudgers who are only too happy to say they don't support Rangers but are quick to slate him. You could be a presenter on Radio Clyde or have a column in the Record and you wouldn't be out of place.
    You'll find me here the majority of the time, win lose or draw, you will only surface when there's negative press to be discussed.

    Hmmm, interesting response. There are a number of totally unrelated points that I need to address. 1) Well if being consistently critical of bad behaviour towards officials, then I'll have to agree with you, I am predictable. 2) No one questioned the passion you have for your club, it is admirable, this is not the issue 3) Yes I am a rugby man, again not relevant. 4) I dont need to attend football matches in order to express an opinion on inappropriate behaviour 5) I never in your wildest dreams called you an average football fan, amazed where you got this one from! 6) you seem to imply that only Rangers fans would be critical of Lenny, interesting logic on that one. I don't support Rangers, i know many people that don't support Rangers as I live in Ireland but yet I know plenty of football fans who find Lennons behaviour inappropriate at times. Explain that one?! 7) you think he's not the man for the job, interesting. Not sure many Celtic fans would agree with you on that one! 8) Finally, I have never listened to radio Clyde in my life, I will admit I have read the record on occasions though! However, it wouldn't be my regular daily newspaper of choice!


  • #5451
    lubo_moravcik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭lubo_moravcik


    Brewster wrote: »
    Hmmm, interesting response. There are a number of totally unrelated points that I need to address. 1) Well if being consistently critical of bad behaviour towards officials, then I'll have to agree with you, I am predictable. 2) No one questioned the passion you have for your club, it is admirable, this is not the issue 3) Yes I am a rugby man, again not relevant. 4) I dont need to attend football matches in order to express an opinion on inappropriate behaviour 5) I never in your wildest dreams called you an average football fan, amazed where you got this one from! 6) you seem to imply that only Rangers fans would be critical of Lenny, interesting logic on that one. I don't support Rangers, i know many people that don't support Rangers as I live in Ireland but yet I know plenty of football fans who find Lennons behaviour inappropriate at times. Explain that one?! 7) you think he's not the man for the job, interesting. Not sure many Celtic fans would agree with you on that one! 8) Finally, I have never listened to radio Clyde in my life, I will admit I have read the record on occasions though! However, it wouldn't be my regular daily newspaper of choice!


    By predictable, it's almost as if you're hiding in the shadows for the last few month, then 2 defeats on the trot and you're back with a vengeance.
    My wildest dreams brought me back a full 15month ago to where you remember me saying that Lennon should be sacked (21st December 2010) so I had to look for it. Your response to what I said is in here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69687356&postcount=2372

    I'm not implying that at all. At least with the Rangers fans on here it works both ways, and as much as it hurts at times they will give some credit when it's going well, as well as put the boot in when it's not. That's what it's all about, so please don't insinuate that I have it in for all Rangers fans.

    Regardless if 'not many', none or every Celtic fan agrees with me on that, so what! I'm saying what I see for the good of my club, should I just follow the crowd? I know enough who want him to stay as well as enough who'd rather he left.

    You may never have listened to Radio Clyde, I'm only letting you know that it could be a nice wee job opportunity for you if the need ever arises. You can thank me later.


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