Tipping the takeaway delivery guy

Kirby · 27-02-2012 6:04pm

I don't believe in tipping at all. It's a con. I'm not going to give somebody extra money for doing their job to the bare minimum level.

But I always tip delivery drivers. It's in your own best interest. When I order my food I want it to arrive quickly and hot. If you are known as a tipper, it always is. I give 2 euro every time I order in and am known as a tipper so never have any problem. It's not alot but it gets you a better service, so I do it.

It's just common sense. However I don't tip in any other form. Just takeaway.

jammstarr · 27-02-2012 6:39pm

I'm being taken advantage of it seems: I always tip but don't get fast deliveries nor get the food piping hot

mikemac1 · 27-02-2012 6:55pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

If you tipped then the food would be warmer and get to you quicker.

Local chipper here has about four different drivers working different nights

So unless they all talk to each other, you'd have to tip all of them to get special service

quietriot · 27-02-2012 11:23pm

When I was younger, I did deliveries as a student job for an indian takeaway. I've always tipped delivery drivers, from long before I worked as one until now, long after I worked as one.

However, my experience of working as one was eye opening. It is truly remarkable how well you remember an address. Although, having said that, we were busy enough that at one point I maintained a list in the car of houses that didn't tip. It's no myth, customers who don't tip would be fúcked with whenever they ordered next and those who tipped were given precedence whenever possible also.

On a busy night you may have 4 or 5 deliveries in the car with you at any one time, each of which has ordered at a different time to one another generally. In theory, you should go to the one that ordered first, unless someone else is on the way to that person. However, in practice it was a case of having a flick through the deliveries and finding the people you liked, delivering to them first and then delivering to the rest. It's not a case of being angry that you weren't tipped, it's being angry that your time has been spent on someone who doesn't tip, while it could have been spent on someone who does, and the majority do.

If the "rest" involved a customer known to not tip, it gave you ample time to basically ruin their meal. I'm genuinely shocked that some people kept ordering regularly after the things that were done to them.

Repeat customers are recognised and particularly by address so there's no way I'd let myself get on the bad side of drivers from a company whose food I liked. A euro or two ensures I get the food the fastest, the hottest and without having been messed with, so I'm quite happy to pay it.

lividduck · 27-02-2012 11:29pm

I always tip the delivery guy, lets face it its a tough old job that most of wouldnt want to do.

quietriot · 27-02-2012 11:32pm

lividduck wrote: »

I always tip the delivery guy, lets face it its a tough old job that most of wouldnt want to do.

I'll be honest, speaking as someone who has done it, the only drivers who have it tough are the dominos drivers. They're paid fúck all and are made work until all hours of the night. They do get free food, unlike a lot of drivers, but it's not worth it.

It's good craic a lot of the time on the weekends when it's busy. During the week is just a waste of time, but unless it's snowing or similar, it's definitely not "tough".

k.p.h · 28-02-2012 12:31am

Food doesn't get delivered much down the country, people don't tip much so no one wants the job as the pay hardly covers the costs.

When you think about it, cost of fuel and time spent..! I'd pay a tenner for people to **** off and leave me along for a few hours, delivery drivers have the exact opposite of that, on call for a few hours for a measly few bob.

Don't be surprised if you don't tip and the day comes when there is no delivery service and you have to get up off your fat asses to go collect your own grub..!

Doc Ruby · 28-02-2012 1:25am

quietriot wrote: »

When I was younger, I did deliveries as a student job for an indian takeaway. I've always tipped delivery drivers, from long before I worked as one until now, long after I worked as one.

However, my experience of working as one was eye opening. It is truly remarkable how well you remember an address. Although, having said that, we were busy enough that at one point I maintained a list in the car of houses that didn't tip. It's no myth, customers who don't tip would be fúcked with whenever they ordered next and those who tipped were given precedence whenever possible also.

On a busy night you may have 4 or 5 deliveries in the car with you at any one time, each of which has ordered at a different time to one another generally. In theory, you should go to the one that ordered first, unless someone else is on the way to that person. However, in practice it was a case of having a flick through the deliveries and finding the people you liked, delivering to them first and then delivering to the rest. It's not a case of being angry that you weren't tipped, it's being angry that your time has been spent on someone who doesn't tip, while it could have been spent on someone who does, and the majority do.

If the "rest" involved a customer known to not tip, it gave you ample time to basically ruin their meal. I'm genuinely shocked that some people kept ordering regularly after the things that were done to them.

Repeat customers are recognised and particularly by address so there's no way I'd let myself get on the bad side of drivers from a company whose food I liked. A euro or two ensures I get the food the fastest, the hottest and without having been messed with, so I'm quite happy to pay it.

Good thing its such a crap job that the few times I do order out, I never get the same delivery drivers due to staff turnover.

HappyBalance · 28-02-2012 1:27am

No way should you tip... It has only become popular due to US influence and this is due to that level of work being so lowly paid over there.

Doc Ruby · 28-02-2012 1:31am

bfocusd wrote: »

I've tried myself with ordering it in the restaurant and bringing it home, its never as warm, I even pre heat the car!

Insulated baggies, so much for the cold food plan A.

J Bourke · 28-02-2012 4:04am

Some views here remind me of this:

ebixa82 · 28-02-2012 8:35am

It is pretty clear that the majority of people who work or have worked as delivery people in the past are corrupt scumbags.

No more than any corrupt politician, anybody who puts the welfare of one person over another for monetary gain is a scumbag.

Delivering food is similar to being a taxi driver. You do fcuk all bar drive around all night. You need no qualifications or skills bar a driver's license. Why do you feel you need to be paid above the minimum wage or whatever financial agreement you've had with the take away.

There is no justification in allowing one person's dinner, which they have paid for (including a delivery charge), to go cold just so you can potentially earn an extra euro or two.

What kind of scumbags are out there at all?

Total fcukin scumbags.

giant_midget · 28-02-2012 10:31am

quietriot wrote: »

When I was younger, I did deliveries as a student job for an indian takeaway. I've always tipped delivery drivers, from long before I worked as one until now, long after I worked as one.

However, my experience of working as one was eye opening. It is truly remarkable how well you remember an address. Although, having said that, we were busy enough that at one point I maintained a list in the car of houses that didn't tip. It's no myth, customers who don't tip would be fúcked with whenever they ordered next and those who tipped were given precedence whenever possible also.

On a busy night you may have 4 or 5 deliveries in the car with you at any one time, each of which has ordered at a different time to one another generally. In theory, you should go to the one that ordered first, unless someone else is on the way to that person. However, in practice it was a case of having a flick through the deliveries and finding the people you liked, delivering to them first and then delivering to the rest. It's not a case of being angry that you weren't tipped, it's being angry that your time has been spent on someone who doesn't tip, while it could have been spent on someone who does, and the majority do.

If the "rest" involved a customer known to not tip, it gave you ample time to basically ruin their meal. I'm genuinely shocked that some people kept ordering regularly after the things that were done to them.

Repeat customers are recognised and particularly by address so there's no way I'd let myself get on the bad side of drivers from a company whose food I liked. A euro or two ensures I get the food the fastest, the hottest and without having been messed with, so I'm quite happy to pay it.

So you are saying that unless you get a tip you would have left that certain delivery until last even tho the person who ordered it payed a delivery charge on top of the charge for food? Typical delivery driver/taxi driver attitude you have there.

By the way the guy who cooked it should be getting the tip, not the min wage failure who delivered it.

Standard Toaster · 28-02-2012 10:36am

Only if I get a lift home in the takeaway car too. Otherwise no dice.
Chicken balls ain't cheap yano.

Barely Hedged · 28-02-2012 10:48am

America - tip because it's a free market economy.

Ireland - dont tip because it's a quasi socialist economy.

Jesus, what's the difficulty?

rgmmg · 28-02-2012 11:06am

ebixa82 wrote: »

It is pretty clear that the majority of people who work or have worked as delivery people in the past are corrupt scumbags.

No more than any corrupt politician, anybody who puts the welfare of one person over another for monetary gain is a scumbag.

Delivering food is similar to being a taxi driver. You do fcuk all bar drive around all night. You need no qualifications or skills bar a driver's license. Why do you feel you need to be paid above the minimum wage or whatever financial agreement you've had with the take away.

There is no justification in allowing one person's dinner, which they have paid for (including a delivery charge), to go cold just so you can potentially earn an extra euro or two.

What kind of scumbags are out there at all?

Total fcukin scumbags.

Scumbags?

A tip is discretionary. If you don't want to pay it don't. The correlation of cold food to tips isn't 1. Probably.

ebixa82 · 28-02-2012 11:23am

rgmmg wrote: »

Scumbags? A tip is discretionary. If you don't want to pay it don't. The correlation of cold food to tips isn't 1. Probably.

But why should you have to tolerate cold food just because you don't? Virtually every delivery person on here has said they positively discriminate against those who don't tip.

rgmmg · 28-02-2012 11:33am

ebixa82 wrote: »

But why should you have to tolerate cold food just because you don't? Virtually every delivery person on here has said they positively discriminate against those who don't tip.

As I said, the correlation isn't one. If you're not happy, complain.

cloptrop · 28-02-2012 11:35am

Leo Dowling wrote: »

I'm not sure there are many people out there who would spit in food, no matter how much they dislike the person.

On the issue of how hot the food is, that can certainly be affected. I worked as a delivery driver when I was in college and I didn't have an employer, I was self-employed and had a contract with the pizza place. All of the drivers worked on this basis, the companies do this so that they don't have to pay minimum wage. There were as many as ten drivers on at one time and you can bet that if a regular tipper's name comes up on the screen for delivery it will get picked up and delivered before a non-tipper's pizza.

do these drivers meet with their accountants once a month to pay tax. dont think hey are self employed , they are getting paid in the hand . this contract is a way for the pizza place to cover itself for not paying your tax , landing you in trouble if they ever get caught .
so heres the second way they screw everyone . first one was paying you such **** wages and tricking you into believing its up to the customer to pay you, you should be spunking in your bosses food

ebixa82 · 28-02-2012 11:45am

rgmmg wrote: »

As I said, the correlation isn't one. If you're not happy, complain.

No point complaining as it would be impossible to prove they are showing preferential treatment to tippers.

rgmmg · 28-02-2012 11:47am

ebixa82 wrote: »

No point complaining as it would be impossible to prove they are showing preferential treatment to tippers.

Only one option then - get off our phat ass and make it yourself

snubbleste · 28-02-2012 11:52am

No.

frosty66 · 28-02-2012 11:59am

I know of alot of takeaway delivery guys in celbridge claiming dole too...
do not tip ever

ebixa82 · 28-02-2012 12:07pm

rgmmg wrote: »

Only one option then - get off our phat ass and make it yourself

I never eat take away. This is one of the reasons I don't. No matter how tasty a dish is straight from a wok or whatever...putting it into plastic tubs and having it transported for 20-30 mins destroys it.

chickendinner · 28-02-2012 1:05pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ

No but seriously I do tip, In case you have not realised, tipping is subsiding
the industry, otherwise considering petrol cost etc, places will do not deliverys, or charge €5

Oh and the people who are complaining about us tippers, mind your own business, how else do you think you can get a chicken curry and a can of coke delivered 2.5miles to you on a tuesday for €8.60:pac:

leggit · 28-02-2012 1:19pm

yeah, if nobody tipped then nobody would do the job...

chickendinner · 28-02-2012 1:28pm

leggit wrote: »

yeah, if nobody tipped then nobody would do the job...

Thats not what i said, There would be a big delivery charge, and yes of course people would do the job, however alienating forever alone types who are ordering 1 meal, for €8 and paying €5 delivery fee.

UrbanSea · 28-02-2012 1:44pm

LOLOLOLOL Elixa you are away with the birds.

Such a generalization is simply ignorant. I've often gone delivering with my mate who's a student. He delivers the food in such a manner that it means he isn't criss crossing his tracks, the most efficient way he can. No matter who tips or doesn't

Leo Dowling · 28-02-2012 1:50pm

ebixa82 wrote: »

It is pretty clear that the majority of people who work or have worked as delivery people in the past are corrupt scumbags.

No more than any corrupt politician, anybody who puts the welfare of one person over another for monetary gain is a scumbag.

Imagine if the whole economy worked like this. Oh wait, it does.

Nyan Cat · 28-02-2012 2:15pm

If no one tipped and no one would do delivery driver work because of that either the place doesn't do take out or they start paying drivers better to attract employees. It wouldn't matter if they raised delivery prices if the driver doesn't get any of it.

If delivery charges increased substantially there'd be a big fall in custom rendering the need for permanent delivery drivers unnecessary. They lose business which won't help them. So their only option would be to pay the drivers better and not pass on the entire wage increase charge to the customer - in their own interests. They might just jack the price of the food more mind you.

Ghandee · 28-02-2012 2:17pm

Ususally a couple of euro.

Depends really on what the bill came to.

If it came to 19.80 and I'd only 2 x 20's, tell them I've no change.

If it came to 18, he/she could keep the change.

They arent exactly on 6 figure salaries I'd imagine.

bfocusd · 28-02-2012 2:30pm

My favourite local Chinese only allows one delivery per driver. Unless it's super busy, like around paddys day or Halloween it would be jam packed with orders, but they get a decent wage and the food is always hot and early so I tip, I can't complain, it's always perfect and delivered within 30 mins of ordering. Im sure the costs are higher for only delivering one item a go, but I think the restaurant have it working perfect, it's by far the best service, even if I ring for collection, the food is waiting for me when I get there, I live 10mins drive away!

Where as another local Chinese has two drivers on busy nights and I've often seen them leaving with 5/6 orders for areas which are quite a distance from each other, they are badly paid and rely on tips.
I don't order from them anymore, even though I had been tipping them the food is never as good of a quality as the other place and it's always got to be heated.

tiny_penguin · 28-02-2012 3:22pm

UrbanSea wrote: »

LOLOLOLOL Elixa you are away with the birds.

Such a generalization is simply ignorant. I've often gone delivering with my mate who's a student. He delivers the food in such a manner that it means he isn't criss crossing his tracks, the most efficient way he can. No matter who tips or doesn't

I would have assumed that would make the most sense as a delivery driver - not wasting more petrol driving all over the place and more bother remembering which houses do or do not tip. Seems like far too much effort for a job that appears to pay less than minimum wage.

I don't tip delivery drivers - but I 99% of the time would collect my food anyway and I rarely get takeaway - not even once every 2 months. So it may be once a year at very most I would get a takeaway delivered - and it wouldn't always be from the same place. Not really bothered about being added to some black list as by the time i order again it is probably a different driver altogether! Dont agree with tipping delivery drivers - they are just doing their job they have been paid for. If they think they arent being paid minimum wage then they need to take it up with their bosses, its not my fault they are letting themselves be underpaid.

pappyodaniel · 28-02-2012 3:25pm

Lazy bastards, either cook or collect it yourself....or gtfo.

veryangryman · 28-02-2012 3:29pm

Other night the delivery guy was walking away with my change without even checking if i was tipping.

I have to say its a completely retarded practice, tipping. See Resevoir Dogs opening scene if you want to hear my thoughts on it echoed.

As someone who works in a non-bonus job, i can only dream of being tipped

noodler · 28-02-2012 3:31pm

I usually give a minimum of two euro.

However, I do it by choice.

If I decide not to then I expect to get my food warm and hygenic.

We shouldn't be paying tips out of blackmail.

EDIT: If my food ever comes cold (anbd it never ever has, Pizza, Indian or Chinese) then I will be sending it back so more work (trouble) for the driver in any case.

kfallon · 28-02-2012 3:31pm

veryangryman wrote: »

Other night the delivery guy was walking away with my change without even checking if i was tipping.

Is that the moment you came up with your username?

Adolf Hipster · 28-02-2012 3:33pm

I always tip the driver, it seems like the right thing to do.

veryangryman · 28-02-2012 3:35pm

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

I always tip the driver, it seems like the right thing to do.

Elaborate for Gods sake? Can you tip me today - i did some quality testing and i feel i earned it

RichieC · 28-02-2012 3:37pm

Never tap a tixy driver.

Nyan Cat · 28-02-2012 6:22pm

RichieC wrote: »

Never tap a tixy driver.

Yeah they're not that sexy

witchywoman · 28-02-2012 8:37pm

this thread made me giggle ... what makes ye think the delivery guy has any power over your take away , hes not fooking cooking it is he? hes just waiting to deliver it if it takes 40 mins 30 mins of that time is down to how busy the shop is , I think ye forget the food has to be cooked its not feckin instant , I used to work in a take away and would get the usual howya boss sorts in lookin to be fed , always asked me how long its gonna be ....my answer , its raw right now , if you want shoite thats been reheated go to the other shop at the end of the street , if you want fresh cooked food then you gotta wait for it to be cooked , on the delivery thing , we used to get fekkers living 10 miles outa town refusing to pay a fiver delivery charge saying twas too dear , my reply would always be , get in the car and drive into town and pick it up yourself then !!:rolleyes:

quietriot · 28-02-2012 9:05pm

ebixa82 wrote: »

It is pretty clear that the majority of people who work or have worked as delivery people in the past are corrupt scumbags.

It's a money driven job, get over it. There's no such thing as "job satisfaction" or "prospects" in it, it's a cash in hand job to get by on and as such, money is king.

No more than any corrupt politician, anybody who puts the welfare of one person over another for monetary gain is a scumbag.

Boohoo.

Delivering food is similar to being a taxi driver.

Except with food, there is absolutely no accountability

Why do you feel you need to be paid above the minimum wage or whatever financial agreement you've had with the take away.

Good service deserves good rewards. Bad service deserves no rewards/complaints. Good customers deserve good treatment, bad customers deserve whatever happens them.

There is no justification in allowing one person's dinner, which they have paid for (including a delivery charge), to go cold just so you can potentially earn an extra euro or two.

Oh but there is. Nice people > scabs.

What kind of scumbags are out there at all?

What?

I'm glad you got the chance to get it off your chest though. Quality rabbling

giant_midget wrote: »

So you are saying that unless you get a tip you would have left that certain delivery until last even tho the person who ordered it payed a delivery charge on top of the charge for food? Typical delivery driver/taxi driver attitude you have there.

Yep, sure would.

By the way the guy who cooked it should be getting the tip, not the min wage failure who delivered it.

I understand that this is a shot at me, however I wouldn't call taking in €25p/h cash in hand on a Friday and Saturday night for a combined 10 hours work a "failure" for a college student. I don't know what you did during college, or even if you went, but I bet you weren't getting that much money for that little work.

ebixa82 wrote: »

But why should you have to tolerate cold food just because you don't? Virtually every delivery person on here has said they positively discriminate against those who don't tip.

Looking it from another angle, we discriminated positively in favour of those who do tip.

rgmmg wrote: »

Only one option then - get off our phat ass and make it yourself

Indeed.

ebixa82 wrote: »

No matter how tasty a dish is straight from a wok or whatever...putting it into plastic tubs and having it transported for 20-30 mins destroys it.

No it doesn't.

tiny_penguin wrote: »

I would have assumed that would make the most sense as a delivery driver - not wasting more petrol driving all over the place and more bother remembering which houses do or do not tip. Seems like far too much effort for a job that appears to pay less than minimum wage.

Back then petrol was significantly cheaper than it was now, the money was good so personally speaking I could afford to fúck with customers, even if it meant not taking the optimal route.

It afforded you opportunities, like to leave a delivery in a bush on a cold winters night while you do a few deliveries and then collect it on the way back to deliver it to the non-tipper.

Couldn't get that while taking the bog standard "optimal" route

Similarly, taking the non-optimal (in terms of petrol usage) route would let you get straight over to the good customers, who appreciated the quick delivery time and tipped accordingly.

mrkite77 · 28-02-2012 9:17pm

I tip 15%... then again, I'm American, so that's no surprise to you guys.

Btw, to see the biggest effect of not tipping, go to Vegas. Neglect to tip, and you'll never see a waitress again.

Luap · 28-02-2012 9:33pm

mrkite77 wrote: »

I tip 15%... then again, I'm American, so that's no surprise to you guys.

Btw, to see the biggest effect of not tipping, go to Vegas. Neglect to tip, and you'll never see a waitress again.

Same as Ireland, no tip means a big glug in your chips next time.

Ice87 · 28-02-2012 9:41pm

What delivery driver 30+ can say that this is his full time job?
You can't pay rent/mortgage on this type of wage.

He is either claiming or a hungry p*ick.

This gets on my nerves nearly as much as taxi drivers who root around for change when your getting out of a taxi.

You can't be tipping these guys.

On the other hand if it's some young fella just trying to get a few quid for the weekend I would have no problem as long as its not late.

28-02-2012 11:09pm

Recently ordered food for 4 people, asked on the phone for free side dish which I got and a free bottle of wine. Ask and you shall receive. Gave the delivery guy €5 as a result.

chris-man · 28-02-2012 11:12pm

Just thought I'd weigh in. I've been doing deliveries for a pizza chain for about 3 years. We dont charge people for delivery at all. We get a flat rate for being on hand and 1.50 a drop. We pay for our own petrol. I dont expect people to tip and I'm not upset if they dont. One rule of thumb I've come to notice is, the bigger the house, the lesser chance of a tip...

noodler · 28-02-2012 11:14pm

139 wrote: »

Recently ordered food for 4 people, asked on the phone for free side dish which I got and a free bottle of wine. Ask and you shall receive. Gave the delivery guy €5 as a result.

I think you probably tipped the wrong person there!

(If you know what I mean anyway).

cloptrop · 28-02-2012 11:24pm

chris-man wrote: »

Just thought I'd weigh in. I've been doing deliveries for a pizza chain for about 3 years. We dont charge people for delivery at all. We get a flat rate for being on hand and 1.50 a drop. We pay for our own petrol. I dont expect people to tip and I'm not upset if they dont. One rule of thumb I've come to notice is, the bigger the house, the lesser chance of a tip...

Eh thats because they spend their money on themselves instead of subsidising your bosses wages.
If the boss done away with deliveries he wouldnt do a third of the business. If I could be arsed getting off the couch to go all the way to the chipper Id just make a sandwhich . Going out in the cold to hang out with a gang of drunken druggie teenagers that congregate around chippers , no thanks, no delivery service no custom .

Tipping the takeaway delivery guy

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