UL GEM 2014

RainBow_xo · 15-04-2014 9:59pm

Is there anyone who can shed some light on the PBL aspect of the course?

RainBow_xo · 21-04-2014 11:06am

Hello!
I've looked on the BE website but I'm not having any luck finding a monthly pass (if it even exists). I was wondering do people usually pay for return tickets each time or is there any kind of scheme in place?

NewShoes · 21-04-2014 11:53am

RainBow_xo wrote: »

Hello!
I've looked on the BE website but I'm not having any luck finding a monthly pass (if it even exists). I was wondering do people usually pay for return tickets each time or is there any kind of scheme in place?

Do you mean from the City Centre? Its €57 I think for the monthly pass from the City, and €17 weekly. You can get them in the SU on campus.

RainBow_xo · 21-04-2014 11:57am

NewShoes wrote: »

Do you mean from the City Centre? Its €57 I think for the monthly pass from the City, and €17 weekly. You can get them in the SU on campus.

Oh I'm sorry, I totally left out that information. I want to travel from Ennis to UL daily.

ULMedsoc · 22-04-2014 9:23am

RainBow_xo wrote: »

That's good to hear! I was worried there wouldn't be any areas available for reading in between tutorials and lectures and that! Is the main library very far from the GEMS building?

5 minute walk across the living bridge

ULMedsoc · 23-04-2014 5:56pm

RainBow_xo wrote: »

Is there anyone who can shed some light on the PBL aspect of the course?

What are looking to know exactly?

RainBow_xo · 25-04-2014 8:48am

ULMedsoc wrote: »

What are looking to know exactly?

I demonstrate at a university and recently I had to give a tutorial on a man who presented with symptoms of an enlarged prostate. So the students were provided with a list of possible diagnoses and had to work through the given information in order to recommend courses of treatment and the likes. I was just wondering if this is the structure of PBL in UL?

highlydebased · 25-04-2014 1:29pm

RainBow_xo wrote: »

Oh I'm sorry, I totally left out that information. I want to travel from Ennis to UL daily.

You can get a 10 journey ticket (5 return trips) from Dublin Coach for use UL-Ennis for €20.

RainBow_xo · 27-04-2014 1:11pm

highlydebased wrote: »

You can get a 10 journey ticket (5 return trips) from Dublin Coach for use UL-Ennis for €20.

I emailed them and they said it is €10 for 10 single journeys(student price). That's great value! Thank you.

RainBow_xo · 01-05-2014 10:32pm

Has any one received Statement of Application Record from CAO? I've received mine and only my LC results are shown, is this normal?

Lub · 02-05-2014 3:35pm

Everyone who applied should have received the CAO documents along with the change of mind forms, Rainbow. Degrees aren't shown on the list, just Leaving Cert/GCSE and a few other bits and bobs.

RainBow_xo · 02-05-2014 4:32pm

Lub wrote: »

Everyone who applied should have received the CAO documents along with the change of mind forms, Rainbow. Degrees aren't shown on the list, just Leaving Cert/GCSE and a few other bits and bobs.

Thank you for your reply! I was wondering for Irish students if our JC results should be included on that form?

Lub · 02-05-2014 4:52pm

Nope, JC results wouldn't be included at all because they don't influence third level entry.

In other news, I'm so sick of waiting for September to roll around! I can't wait to get started and meet some new people.

Cymini Sectores · 02-05-2014 5:11pm

Hi guys I know RCSI specifically prepares students for the USMLE. Does UL do the same?

RainBow_xo · 02-05-2014 5:23pm

Lub wrote: »

Nope, JC results wouldn't be included at all because they don't influence third level entry.

In other news, I'm so sick of waiting for September to roll around! I can't wait to get started and meet some new people.

I am just trying to make it through this month and then hopefully I will be in the same boat as you

)))

Ballet17 · 02-05-2014 8:23pm

Hi everyone, my Leaving Cert results weren't included..should they be?? Also feeling the pain of waiting for results day!!

RainBow_xo · 02-05-2014 11:42pm

Ballet17 wrote: »

Hi everyone, my Leaving Cert results weren't included..should they be?? Also feeling the pain of waiting for results day!!

I am not too sure but it wouldn't do any harm to ring them and ask. Did you include your exam number when you filled out your CAO?

Ballet17 · 03-05-2014 12:11pm

RainBow_xo wrote: »

I am not too sure but it wouldn't do any harm to ring them and ask. Did you include your exam number when you filled out your CAO?

Hiya, I emailed the cao about the inclusion of leaving cert info and got this response

"If you are applying for Graduate Medicine courses
only, then only your GAMSAT results and original
transcripts of your primary Level 8 Honours Degree
and proof of conferring (if already taken) need to
be sent in to CAO, Eglinton Street, Galway, as
exams such as Leaving Cert/FETAC and/or GCE are
not taken into account."

They have my transcripts etc from my degree so i think I should be ok?
Now to continue this wait for results....best of luck to everyone else in the same boat!

ULMedsoc · 08-05-2014 7:39pm

Cymini Sectores wrote: »

Hi guys I know RCSI specifically prepares students for the USMLE. Does UL do the same?

We do offer a USMLE prep course in second year, which you can chose to do.

ULMedsoc · 08-05-2014 7:42pm

RainBow_xo wrote: »

I demonstrate at a university and recently I had to give a tutorial on a man who presented with symptoms of an enlarged prostate. So the students were provided with a list of possible diagnoses and had to work through the given information in order to recommend courses of treatment and the likes. I was just wondering if this is the structure of PBL in UL?

This sounds similar to our PBL program. Each week you are presented with a case and work through it, generating unknowns and learning objectives from the case. You then report back later in the week and present the information you have learned in a small group setting.

Cymini Sectores · 09-05-2014 3:29pm

ULMedsoc wrote: »

We do offer a USMLE prep course in second year, which you can chose to do.

Thanks, this is good news. Just read it somewhere else as well.

RainBow_xo · 12-05-2014 12:35pm

ULMedsoc wrote: »

This sounds similar to our PBL program. Each week you are presented with a case and work through it, generating unknowns and learning objectives from the case. You then report back later in the week and present the information you have learned in a small group setting.

Thanks for confirming.

RainBow_xo · 19-05-2014 7:29am

I hope those of you waiting on GAMSAT results are happy. And I certainly hope I will be seeing you in Sep!

Poppy1314 · 19-05-2014 12:17pm

Hi everyone, possibly looking at UL for this September

I am a bit concerned about this course and PBL approach as I come from a non-science background, just wondering if anybody knows how non science students tend to get on in this course?

trendy88 · 19-05-2014 12:21pm

Will more than likely be in UL come September! Ditto the sentiments of Poppy above regarding the PBL. Also has a fb group been set up yet? I see the UCD'ers are on the ball there!

RainBow_xo · 19-05-2014 12:22pm

It would be great to get a fb page going. I noticed there's a page already set up but I'm assuming it's for people who have already accepted offers (so far internationals?)

trendy88 · 19-05-2014 12:45pm

Oh yes I see that now. Are we tempting faith if we join? Im on 55?

supraspinaswim · 19-05-2014 4:54pm

Ive got a question mainly concerning Ulster Bank and getting additional funds for accommodation. Has anyone - this is to ULMedsoc, managed to get additional funding on top of the fees loan to pay for accomm and other stuff ?

Its that part of getting the dough together to make sure ive somewhere to stay for 4 years. No point having the course and camping in a tent

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Lub · 19-05-2014 5:25pm

Well done to those of you who got your scores!

trendy88 wrote: »

Oh yes I see that now. Are we tempting faith if we join? Im on 55?

Oh dear, don't say that! I'm also sitting on a 55 and from everything I've heard I think we're okay! Last year everyone with a score of 53+ was accepted in round 0, and I've seen a few people say that applicants have dropped this year, so I think we're safe enough.

I'd also love to know what to expect. What will the first few weeks be like?

IrishSkyBoxer · 20-05-2014 2:23pm

There were students in first year this year with 51 and person with 50 started a few weeks in to the programme. a good chunk dropped out during the first few weeks, about ten or fifteen

Lub · 20-05-2014 2:31pm

IrishSkyBoxer wrote: »

a good chunk dropped out during the first few weeks, about ten or fifteen

Would this be mainly due to being unable to acquire the loan?

IrishSkyBoxer · 20-05-2014 2:39pm

no, due to the workload

RainBow_xo · 20-05-2014 2:52pm

IrishSkyBoxer wrote: »

There were students in first year this year with 51 and person with 50 started a few weeks in to the programme. a good chunk dropped out during the first few weeks, about ten or fifteen

At the risk of sounding rude, do you think it is due to low GAMSAT scores?

person78 · 20-05-2014 3:54pm

IrishSkyBoxer wrote: »

There were students in first year this year with 51 and person with 50 started a few weeks in to the programme. a good chunk dropped out during the first few weeks, about ten or fifteen

I got 51 and I'd given up all hope. Are you absolutely sure people got in on that score? It'd be great news if you are!

IrishSkyBoxer · 20-05-2014 7:07pm

RainBow_xo wrote: »

At the risk of sounding rude, do you think it is due to low GAMSAT scores?

Almost certainly plays a part. People need to be more aware of what a good gamsat score is and there is a reason UK schools set cut off points for entry and miminum section three scores. In saying that, GAMSAT has absolutely no relevance to the material studied. But there is probably a correlation between getting a low gamsat score and failing out. UL medical degree is particularly hard with a high attrition rate. Weaker candidates who may not pass UL degree would probably pass in a programme like UCD.

person78 wrote: »

I got 51 and I'd given up all hope. Are you absolutely sure people got in on that score? It'd be great news if you are!

Yeah fairly sure. Nobody has the money to pay for this thing anymore so you could get lucky in second or third round.

ULMedsoc · 20-05-2014 8:40pm

RainBow_xo wrote: »

Is there anyone who can shed some light on the PBL aspect of the course?

IrishSkyBoxer wrote: »

There were students in first year this year with 51 and person with 50 started a few weeks in to the programme. a good chunk dropped out during the first few weeks, about ten or fifteen

Hi I can confirm that 10/15 people did not drop out this year. I think as per the CAO website, the minimum entry was 53. No one new entered the course throughout the year as it is too much to catch up on, even after the first week.

ULMedsoc · 20-05-2014 8:46pm

trendy88 wrote: »

Will more than likely be in UL come September! Ditto the sentiments of Poppy above regarding the PBL. Also has a fb group been set up yet? I see the UCD'ers are on the ball there!

Hi there is no need to worry about being from a non-science background - after the first year or two, you wouldn't even notice the difference between those with Science degrees and those with Business degrees.
The PBL aspect of the course is great, you are given a 'paper case' at the start of the week (Tuesday for First years). Each PBL has three tutorial, you come up with learning objectives yourselves, a tutor is there to facilitate and guide you with this process. You then read up and learn your objectives and present them at the next tutorial, you are then given more information about the patient and the process repeats itself again. To complement this, you are given 'mini cases' which complement the case as well. There may or may not be several lectures throughout the week, which should complement the case and direct you in your learning. Is there anything else you would like to know?

ULMedsoc · 20-05-2014 8:46pm

Poppy1314 wrote: »

Hi everyone, possibly looking at UL for this September I am a bit concerned about this course and PBL approach as I come from a non-science background, just wondering if anybody knows how non science students tend to get on in this course?

Hi please see my last message, is there anything else I can help you with?

ULMedsoc · 20-05-2014 8:49pm

supraspinaswim wrote: »

Ive got a question mainly concerning Ulster Bank and getting additional funds for accommodation. Has anyone - this is to ULMedsoc, managed to get additional funding on top of the fees loan to pay for accomm and other stuff ?

Its that part of getting the dough together to make sure ive somewhere to stay for 4 years. No point having the course and camping in a tent .

Hi there is a scholarship available for certain eligible students - it is on the UL GEMS website and you should apply for this if you think you are eligible. Im not overtly familiar with all the ins and outs of the loans but there is a LOVELY lady named Grainne who works in the Ulster Bank on campus, you should contact her and she will tell you everything. I have also heard of people getting loans from AIB and their Credit Unions, BOI also offer one as well. Unfortunately the loan scheme has been reduced to 60000 from 100000 and this is only for fees covering. Hope this helps.

ULMedsoc · 20-05-2014 8:50pm

trendy88 wrote: »

Will more than likely be in UL come September! Ditto the sentiments of Poppy above regarding the PBL. Also has a fb group been set up yet? I see the UCD'ers are on the ball there!

Hi yes there has been a Facebook set up for those who have received their offers so at the moment it is mainly Canadians as they received their offers at the start of this month. If you think you'll get in, then please join!! Its basically and Q and A forum at the moment!

greentoast · 20-05-2014 11:12pm

Hi all, I got a 53...pretty worried. Any hope for me, or shall I start studying for those bloody GAMSATs again!

sofy_123 · 21-05-2014 12:21am

IrishSkyBoxer wrote: »

There were students in first year this year with 51 and person with 50 started a few weeks in to the programme. a good chunk dropped out during the first few weeks, about ten or fifteen

Are you sure about this? I got 58 this year, but last year I got 52. I was hoping to possibly get in on the first or second round (as I had heard the same as what you said, that people got in on 51 the year before me). I rang Lonnie Costelloe in admissions several times, I was on a waiting list with everyone else who had gotten a 52. As far as I can remember, I was 12th in that list and did not receive an offer, and was told I had minimal chance of an offer by her in early August. I just wouldn't like people getting their hopes up because I was in that situation last year and it's awful

IrishSkyBoxer · 21-05-2014 12:38am

ULMedsoc wrote: »

Hi there is no need to worry about being from a non-science background - after the first year or two, you wouldn't even notice the difference between those with Science degrees and those with Business degrees.
The PBL aspect of the course is great, you are given a 'paper case' at the start of the week (Tuesday for First years). Each PBL has three tutorial, you come up with learning objectives yourselves, a tutor is there to facilitate and guide you with this process. You then read up and learn your objectives and present them at the next tutorial, you are then given more information about the patient and the process repeats itself again. To complement this, you are given 'mini cases' which complement the case as well. There may or may not be several lectures throughout the week, which should complement the case and direct you in your learning. Is there anything else you would like to know?

do many students receive complete sets of pbl notes/learning objectives/complete anatomy worksheets from students in years above ?

ULMedsoc · 21-05-2014 9:36am

sofy_123 wrote: »

Are you sure about this? I got 58 this year, but last year I got 52. I was hoping to possibly get in on the first or second round (as I had heard the same as what you said, that people got in on 51 the year before me). I rang Lonnie Costelloe in admissions several times, I was on a waiting list with everyone else who had gotten a 52. As far as I can remember, I was 12th in that list and did not receive an offer, and was told I had minimal chance of an offer by her in early August. I just wouldn't like people getting their hopes up because I was in that situation last year and it's awful

Hi If you see my above posts I corrected this information.

ULMedsoc · 21-05-2014 9:38am

sofy_123 wrote: »

Are you sure about this? I got 58 this year, but last year I got 52. I was hoping to possibly get in on the first or second round (as I had heard the same as what you said, that people got in on 51 the year before me). I rang Lonnie Costelloe in admissions several times, I was on a waiting list with everyone else who had gotten a 52. As far as I can remember, I was 12th in that list and did not receive an offer, and was told I had minimal chance of an offer by her in early August. I just wouldn't like people getting their hopes up because I was in that situation last year and it's awful

IrishSkyBoxer wrote: »

do many students receive complete sets of pbl notes/learning objectives/complete anatomy worksheets from students in years above ?

This is not advisable - they also change some of the learning objectives/mini cases etc from year to year. You learn more by doing them yourself !

trendy88 · 21-05-2014 11:46am

Guys just wondering, those of you who are filling out the scholarship form for UL, are you sticking to the space allotted in the form for the personal statement section or typing one yourself and attaching it. I feel the section allotted is very small but at the same time I dont want to write too much and have that work against me.

RainBow_xo · 21-05-2014 12:02pm

trendy88 wrote: »

Guys just wondering, those of you who are filling out the scholarship form for UL, are you sticking to the space allotted in the form for the personal statement section or typing one yourself and attaching it. I feel the section allotted is very small but at the same time I dont want to write too much and have that work against me.

I am wondering the exact same thing! I'd love to know.

ULMedsoc · 26-05-2014 5:19pm

RainBow_xo wrote: »

I am wondering the exact same thing! I'd love to know.

Im not sure, but if you ring you the main office and ask them Im sure they'd be more than happy to help

SmileyRK · 28-05-2014 5:18pm

Hey guys,

Current 2nd year med student in UL, also from Limerick here. Just said I'd post and see if anyone has questions or needs help with anything, although UL Medsoc seems to be on the ball

Just post or drop me a PM with any questions

RainBow_xo · 28-05-2014 6:29pm

SmileyRK wrote: »

Hey guys,

Current 2nd year med student in UL, also from Limerick here. Just said I'd post and see if anyone has questions or needs help with anything, although UL Medsoc seems to be on the ball

Just post or drop me a PM with any questions

Hi SmileyRK,

This is quite random but is there a microwave in the GEMS building?

UL GEM 2014

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