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Help!! College Fees

  • 19-08-2015 12:23am
    #1
    kingsofoffaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭


    Need help.

    Right I did a higher cert level 6 for 2 years but failed second year this year. I applied for a course in WIT on the CAO, so I'm starting again, Got my course offer yesterday which I'm delighted about but Someone said to me that I will have to pay full fees plus the student contribution fees of 3000 this year.. Now I know I have to pay the 3000 but do I have to pay the full fees if in a way I'm progressing onto a Level 7? Please help as it will decide if i go to college or not :(


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  • #2
    jacobwrench97
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭jacobwrench97


    Did you get a susi grant previously?


  • #3
    kingsofoffaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭kingsofoffaly


    jacobwrench97 wrote: »
    Did you get a susi grant previously?

    No never qualified for it. Parents income is over it. I'm 21 btw


  • #4
    jacobwrench97
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭jacobwrench97


    I only noticed that you are progressing to a level 7. I would contact Susi Grant to see if you are eligible for a grant.

    Also I think you could apply for the Back to Education allowance if I'm right...


  • #5
    jacobwrench97
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭jacobwrench97


    Are you independent of your parents, or dependent?

    If dependent, you should apply for the Back to Education allowance.
    If independent, you should qualify for a grant, but contact Susi just to be on the safe side.


  • #6
    kingsofoffaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭kingsofoffaly


    jacobwrench97 wrote: »
    I only noticed that you are progressing to a level 7. I would contact Susi Grant to see if you are eligible for a grant.

    Also I think you could apply for the Back to Education allowance if I'm right...

    I'm 21, so back to education I wont be able to and I wont qualify for a grant


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  • #7
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    http://www.studentfinance.ie/mp9377/course-fees/index.html

    6. Subject to compliance with the other conditions of the Free Fees initiative, students who have previously pursued but have not completed a course of third level study and subsequently resume third level studies:
    A) may be deemed eligible for free fees where the third level course concerned did not attract any exchequer funding (e.g. fees, maintenance, tax relief, subsidy towards course cost)
    B) are not eligible for free fees for the equivalent period of time spent on the first course of study where the third level course concerned did attract exchequer funding (as above). Part-time and evening students are included in this category.

    You'll have to pay full fees for your first two years in WIT.


  • #8
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    I'd contact WIT if I were you, I imagine they'll be able to organise a payment plan for you. Afaik you won't have to have it paid for until January. Don't rush into a decision on whether you'll attend or not so quickly, although I understand your financial situation is very stressful and may make your attendance impossible.


  • #9
    kingsofoffaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭kingsofoffaly


    O dear 😳 well that's my dreams gone out the window :( thanks everyone


  • #10
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    kingsofoffaly wrote: »
    O dear 😳 well that's my dreams gone out the window :( thanks everyone

    Could you try to work for a year to fund the fees for your next two years? I know it's not ideal but it's not necessarily the end of your dreams. I had to take a year out this year for reasons that would be completely different to yours, and am going back in two weeks. Missing a year really is no big deal. In my case I think it helped me a huge amount.


  • #11
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Brett Cuddly Standout wrote: »
    Could you try to work for a year to fund the fees for your next two years? I know it's not ideal but it's not necessarily the end of your dreams. I had to take a year out this year for reasons that would be completely different to yours, and am going back in two weeks. Missing a year really is no big deal. In my case I think it helped me a huge amount.

    Agreed if op can take a year or two out, work and save a little college would be more affordable


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  • #12
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Student loan.


  • #13
    Sup08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Sup08


    If you take a 5 year break fro all studies you may qualify as a second chance student, otherwise you will have to pay for year 1 and 2 of any undergraduate course.

    Is there any chance you can advance into year 2 of your course based on study already attained, thus reducing the time you have to pay without a grant?


  • #14
    kingsofoffaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭kingsofoffaly


    Hey guys thanks for all the advice. yes I do have to pay fees but turns out ITs level 7 courses fees only about 500-700 euros for the year. I was expecting 5000/6000 per year


  • #15
    Sup08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Sup08


    kingsofoffaly wrote: »
    Hey guys thanks for all the advice. yes I do have to pay fees but turns out ITs level 7 courses fees only about 500-700 euros for the year. I was expecting 5000/6000 per year

    Which college is that cheap? Are you sure that's not the student contribution part of the fees.


  • #16
    kingsofoffaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭kingsofoffaly


    Sup08 wrote: »
    Which college is that cheap? Are you sure that's not the student contribution part of the fees.

    No its not I rang WIT yesterday and thats what the fee office told me. seemly all ITs are like that.


  • #17
    SillyBeans
    Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭SillyBeans


    I think I'd ring back and speak to someone else just to double check. That really doesn't sound right. I've had friends who've repeated in ITs and it wasn't that cheap, unless things have changed a lot. Better to double check now instead of being stuck with a bill in a few weeks. Good luck :)


  • #18
    kingsofoffaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭kingsofoffaly


    SillyBeans wrote: »
    I think I'd ring back and speak to someone else just to double check. That really doesn't sound right. I've had friends who've repeated in ITs and it wasn't that cheap, unless things have changed a lot. Better to double check now instead of being stuck with a bill in a few weeks. Good luck :)[/QUOTE

    I'm going to the college on Monday. Thats what she told me. She was from the fees department. Said it was because student contribution fees were going up so tuition fees were going down. I hope she wasn't telling me lies, I'd hate too them so much because of it


  • #19
    SillyBeans
    Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭SillyBeans


    I just had a look at the website and it mentioned a couple of hundred per 5 credit module. If you're happy to wait great, but I'd be phoning again just to put my mind at ease over the weekend. Hope it goes well for you :)


  • #20
    Sup08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Sup08


    kingsofoffaly wrote: »

    I'm going to the college on Monday. Thats what she told me. She was from the fees department. Said it was because student contribution fees were going up so tuition fees were going down. I hope she wasn't telling me lies, I'd hate too them so much because of it

    If the tuition fees are going down because the contribution is going up then that would make the course €3,700 (€3000 Student Contribution and €700 Tuition Fees). As stated above, I would definitely call to confirm what the total bill for a student repeating a year already attained would be.


  • #21
    kingsofoffaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭kingsofoffaly


    Sup08 wrote: »
    If the tuition fees are going down because the contribution is going up then that would make the course €4,200 (€3500 Student Contribution and €700 Tuition Fees). As stated above, I would definitely call to confirm what the total bill for a student repeating a year already attained would be.

    SC is 3000, not 3500!lol

    I'm not repeating a year, I'm starting a new course in a new college. I will be checking monday, best to go into about it.


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  • #22
    Sup08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Sup08


    kingsofoffaly wrote: »
    SC is 3000, not 3500!lol

    I'm not repeating a year, I'm starting a new course in a new college. I will be checking monday, best to go into about it.

    Well then 3000 + 700 is in fact €3,700 and not €700 LOL

    Best of luck with the new course for 700 LOL!!


  • #23
    SillyBeans
    Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭SillyBeans


    You're not repeating the year of the course but you are repeating a first year. You get first year paid for once, after that you pay fees. If I did the first 3 years of a course, I'd have to pay myself for the first 3 years of a different course if I dropped out.


  • #24
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    SillyBeans wrote: »
    I think I'd ring back and speak to someone else just to double check. That really doesn't sound right. I've had friends who've repeated in ITs and it wasn't that cheap, unless things have changed a lot. Better to double check now instead of being stuck with a bill in a few weeks. Good luck :)

    Possibly because they did a level 8?


  • #25
    SillyBeans
    Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭SillyBeans


    Brett Cuddly Standout wrote: »
    Possibly because they did a level 8?

    Nah it was a level 6 or 7. Whichever a higher cert is :)


  • #26
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    kingsofoffaly wrote: »
    SillyBeans wrote: »
    I think I'd ring back and speak to someone else just to double check. That really doesn't sound right. I've had friends who've repeated in ITs and it wasn't that cheap, unless things have changed a lot. Better to double check now instead of being stuck with a bill in a few weeks. Good luck :)

    I'm going to the college on Monday. Thats what she told me. She was from the fees department. Said it was because student contribution fees were going up so tuition fees were going down. I hope she wasn't telling me lies, I'd hate too them so much because of it



    Yeah

    So basically

    You would be paying student contribution of 3000 PLUS your fee of 500 to 700. So your total fee is 3500 to 3700.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #27
    Tanya234
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Tanya234


    Guys if you did a level 7 course and received a grant. And then 4 years later applied to do a level 8 course as a mature student, are you entitled to apply for a grant again or no??


  • #28
    Sup08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Sup08


    Tanya234 wrote: »
    Guys if you did a level 7 course and received a grant. And then 4 years later applied to do a level 8 course as a mature student, are you entitled to apply for a grant again or no??

    Yes. You can do a maximum of 4 years between levels 6 and 7 then a further 4 years at level 8.


  • #29
    Tanya234
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Tanya234


    Sup08 wrote: »
    Yes. You can do a maximum of 4 years between levels 6 and 7 then a further 4 years at level 8.

    Great thanks :)


  • #30
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    OP, consider taking out a student loan. You can possibly negotiate it so that you can wait a certain amount of time before making repayments. Then get a part time job. Given that you're living at home and not paying rent, you'll likely have earned more than enough to pay back your loans easily!


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  • #31
    kingsofoffaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭kingsofoffaly


    Deleted User wrote: »
    OP, consider taking out a student loan. You can possibly negotiate it so that you can wait a certain amount of time before making repayments. Then get a part time job. Given that you're living at home and not paying rent, you'll likely have earned more than enough to pay back your loans easily!

    I'm not living at home. I work full time all summer with two jobs and rent a house.It was the fees I was worried about, because I thought they could have been 5000/6000 plus PLUS the contribution.:confused:

    I've confused myself here.


  • #32
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    From doing a little basic research, a level 8 degree that isn't music or nursing costs €819 +€3000 student contribution, meaning the total amount for the course would be €3819 plus student levy. So 700 for a Level 6/7 would make sense. Still super cheap as I'm going to be 4,500 each year for 2 years when I do my teaching degree in MU.


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