Who do you think will die next in the book (Winds of Winter) READERS ONLY!!!!!!

TheIrishGrover · 07-06-2015 5:25pm #1

I suppose with Connington not in the series it's a possibility that his story will be a dead-end (Like that other prince I can't remember the name of). Although I hope not as he was the only new storyline I found good in the last 2 books (How do you make Vikings boring? Spend their time having an election and going on about a dull religion)

Anyway, what major character (if any) do you think is going to die in the next book?

Personally I think at least one of the dragons is going to go. Possibly two.

And Jaime in the last chapter

[Edit] Changed title to limit to next book only. Let's face it, they're all probably brown bread by the end

Digital Solitude · 07-06-2015 5:28pm

Cersei
Confirmation of Jon's death
Stannis
Jorah
Roose Bolton

And its been a while since GRRM killed any Starks so maybe one of those

Turtyturd · 07-06-2015 5:40pm

Barristan.

Nody · 07-06-2015 7:49pm

I think Cersei will be around at least long enough to see her lose everything inc. her children before she suicides so it's to early for her.

I'd agree on Stannis & Roose Bolton and I'd add Hodor & the gang (basically they all die in the caves defending it from the others managing to invade somehow while Bran needs time to merge properly with the tree).

GerB40 · 08-06-2015 1:09am

Turtyturd wrote: »

Barristan.

I have a sneaky feeling Jojen Reed is fúcked too..

DvB · 08-06-2015 9:50am

My feeling is that if a character has been killed in the show in season 5 they're pretty much brown bread as far as GRRM is concerned going forward. I know there's been chopping & changing with respect to who lives/dies between the books & the show but this (s5) is the first clear break from the books & i suspect the characters leaving us in the show will follow suit in the books, as despite them potentially being separate entities going forward GRRM still has input & I suspect he'd not let an important book character be killed off in the show & vice versa.

Though my gut tells me Stannis & Roose Bolton being the next likely main characters to leave the land of the living (assuming Jon Snow is already 'dead' of sorts)

Then again, with GRRM, who the feck knows? Time will tell I suppose.

Frankie5Angels · 08-06-2015 3:42pm

GerB40 wrote: »

I have a sneaky feeling Jojen Reed is fúcked too..

Please God!

Grey Wind · 08-06-2015 8:17pm

Jojen and Barristan. Probably some of the more minor POVs like Aeron, Jon Connington etc.

I think it's too early for Cersei to die. I fully expect Dany to be the queen from the prophecy, so I think she'll show up before Jaime offs her. I also think Stannis will be involved in the final battle against the others, although I could see him dying to set up Mel's realisation that Jon is Azor Ahai.

razorblunt · 08-06-2015 10:23pm

Tyrion and Littlefinger.

awec · 08-06-2015 10:29pm

IMO Tyrion won't die.

Iwasfrozen · 08-06-2015 10:35pm

Tommen will be the first to die, Varys is already in King's Landing and will presumably kill him when Aegon marches so he finds the city in chaos.

froog · 08-06-2015 10:41pm

selmy, shireen, jorah, hizdahr

Digital Solitude · 08-06-2015 10:48pm

What other series do people discuss what main characters are next set to be killed off, as Supreme Overlord Martin has no use for them.

Tyrion will die, just not yet, and I think Tommen is around until Cersei offs herself. He will at that stage be lynched IMO.

TheIrishGrover · 08-06-2015 11:23pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Tyrion and Littlefinger.

You really think Tyrion will die in the NEXT book? Oh he'll die alright but I think it'll be about 200 pages into the last book.

Personally I think the only people who will survive is Vayrs or littlefinger. Standing beside the Iron Throne (Not sitting on it). POSSIBLY with (shudder) Sansa on the throne. (Which I suppose would rule out Littlefinger)

Sleepy · 08-06-2015 11:29pm

Tommen and Myrcella will both die before Cersei.
Jaime will die gloriously in the completion of his redemption.

razorblunt · 09-06-2015 8:05am

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

You really think Tyrion will die in the NEXT book? Oh he'll die alright but I think it'll be about 200 pages into the last book.

Personally I think the only people who will survive is Vayrs or littlefinger. Standing beside the Iron Throne (Not sitting on it). POSSIBLY with (shudder) Sansa on the throne. (Which I suppose would rule out Littlefinger)

Ah I was reading it as who would die in the next book.

Grey Wind · 09-06-2015 11:51am

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

You really think Tyrion will die in the NEXT book? Oh he'll die alright but I think it'll be about 200 pages into the last book.

Personally I think the only people who will survive is Vayrs or littlefinger. Standing beside the Iron Throne (Not sitting on it). POSSIBLY with (shudder) Sansa on the throne. (Which I suppose would rule out Littlefinger)

There probably won't be an Iron Throne in the end.

amos13 · 09-06-2015 6:01pm

Nody wrote:

I think Cersei will be around at least long enough to see her lose everything inc. her children before she suicides so it's to early for her.

She won't kill herself, the valonqar will sort her out. I actually think she'll end up as a Wight somehow, on account of the pale white throat bit of the prophesy.

I think Sansa will go. The stark kids mirror their wolves, and hers is dead, unjustly. So I think she'll die, unjustly. Also as someone else says, its been a while since a stark was offed

googled eyes · 10-06-2015 9:28am

The Starks mirror their wolves?! What could that mean for Jon and his pale, white wolf.
Everyone has just assumed that Jon would be OK but what if its the Night King that raises Jon not the red witch

Edit: this is partly a joke but we don't actually have a clue what's going to happen with Jon

hotshots85 · 10-06-2015 11:42am

googled eyes wrote: »

The Starks mirror their wolves?! What could that mean for Jon and his pale, white wolf.
Everyone has just assumed that Jon would be OK but what if its the Night King that raises Jon not the red witch

Edit: this is partly a joke but we don't actually have a clue what's going to happen with Jon

OR is Ghost's white hair a symbol of John's Targareyean blood?

2ndcoming · 10-06-2015 11:55am

googled eyes wrote: »

The Starks mirror their wolves?! What could that mean for Jon and his pale, white wolf.
Everyone has just assumed that Jon would be OK but what if its the Night King that raises Jon not the red witch

Edit: this is partly a joke but we don't actually have a clue what's going to happen with Jon

I think that's one of the major running theories to be fair. The show might shed some light on this next week.

Daith · 10-06-2015 11:58am

hotshots85 wrote: »

OR is Ghost's white hair a symbol of John's Targareyean blood?

Ghost and Nymeria have puppies confirmed :P

amos13 · 10-06-2015 12:21pm

googled eyes wrote:

The Starks mirror their wolves?! What could that mean for Jon and his pale, white wolf. Everyone has just assumed that Jon would be OK but what if its the Night King that raises Jon not the red witch

Thing is, it can't be the red witch, can it? I mean in the series she's at the siege of winterfell. So either she races to him when she hears (unlikely, she only cares for Stannis), someone else raises him or he's just dead. Either way I don't think we'll be finding out til next season.

Just as I say it, they burnt Maester Aemon when he died didn't they? Maybe they do the same to Jon and it brings him back to life clutching three baby dragons suckling on his man boobs ha.

OR STONEHEART FINALLY SHOWS UP.....

Nody · 10-06-2015 12:27pm

amos13 wrote: »

Just as I say it, they burnt Maester Aemon when he died didn't they? Maybe they do the same to Jon and it brings him back to life clutching three baby dragons suckling on his man boobs.

More likely as it's brother killing brother that they would try to hide their crime by dumping the body on the other side of the wall "for him to be with his beloved wildlings" or something along those lines. This would give the opportunity for either the warging or being raised as a walker.

amos13 · 10-06-2015 1:14pm

Nody wrote:

More likely as it's brother killing brother that they would try to hide their crime by dumping the body on the other side of the wall "for him to be with his beloved wildlings" or something along those lines. This would give the opportunity for either the warging or being raised as a walker.

I'm hoping not, although its entirely possible. What definitely won't happen (but I'd love if it did) would be LSH turning up with the BwB to raise him and give him the little gift of Robb's will.

I have another question too, probably not suited to this thread but...since you brought that up...Ned's bones never turned up, there's all this mystery of where they are. The crypts are allegedly empty, where are all the dead kings of winterfell? Are they the WWs? Is it Jon's destiny to be raised as a WW rather than the last hero we've all been sucked into believing? Ahhhh too many unknowns I need the next book.

Generic Dreadhead · 11-06-2015 4:41pm

Are we talking Die Die.... Or Kinda Die and Come Back :pac:

Serious answer though Jamies gonna go soon

amos13 · 11-06-2015 5:27pm

Cormac... wrote:

Serious answer though Jamies gonna go soon

Agreed. Jamie's redemption arc is complete IMO. We've all forgiven/ forgotten what he did to Bran, amongst other things, and he genuinely seems to be a goodish person now. He can't fight any more, D&D made sure to show us that. He dead.

bnt · 13-06-2015 6:48pm

I expect that Rickon Stark grows up not knowing anyhing about his family, ends up on the wrong side of a battle, and gets himself killed by Brienne. She's never even seen him, after all, and has no idea what he looks like. After that, she'll be left with no reason to live.

Sleepy · 15-06-2015 9:37am

Jamie will die but I expect to see him manage a positive entry in the White Book first. He also has to kill Cersei since he's the Valonquar.

sparkthatbled · 20-06-2015 1:00pm

hotshots85 wrote: »

OR is Ghost's white hair a symbol of John's Targareyean blood?

Working along with the general assumption that this is not the end of Jon (and r+l=j), he has to find out about his parentage at some point which means he probably heads north and finds Bran who sees it through the weirwoods. There is, however, one person left alive who probably knows the secret and I really can't see Howland Reed playing no part in the story and he must be destined for a significant impact somewhere. That depends on whether or not you believe the theory that he is already posing as the high sparrow but I personally don't.

DarkoT · 21-06-2015 11:51pm

In my opinion the next ''victim'' of Martin will be Petyr Baelish... Expect the unexpected...

Daith · 22-06-2015 8:44am

DarkoT wrote: »

In my opinion the next ''victim'' of Martin will be Petyr Baelish... Expect the unexpected...

Possibly. GRRM does like the history repeating aspect and you would need one "player" to die for Sansa to step up if that is his goal.

Mr Freeze · 22-06-2015 12:10pm

Barriston, fairly early in The Battle of Fire in Meereen. I don't expect him to survive it.

Jorah at some stage.

Jon Connington and Aegon, I don't think they will last the book.

I suspect that most of the Nights Watch are dead, I think a fight would have broken out after Jon's stabbing and most of the betrayers are dead, killed by Wildings.

Victarion probably, by Euron.

Brienne or Jaime.

Walda Frey by Ramsay.

Theon, Stannis will have him executed unless Asha can stop it.

RobbingBandit · 22-06-2015 2:03pm

If Ramsay kills Walda Roose will flay him.

I expect Walder Frey to die before the end of Winds, possible in bed with his newest wife.

I have a feeling Aegon is the false dragon, he won't last.

Mr Freeze · 22-06-2015 3:11pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

If Ramsay kills Walda Roose will flay him.

I expect Walder Frey to die before the end of Winds, possible in bed with his newest wife.

I have a feeling Aegon is the false dragon, he won't last.

I'd say Ramsay could kill Walda and Roose, leaving himself as the head of the Bolton family.

Ya, I'd say nobody will get near old Walder to kill him, he will expire an older man than he is now, but maybe all his heirs will be killed before that happens.

Euphoria Intensifies · 25-06-2015 12:00am

Defo think Ramsay will kill Roose and Walda.

I think Jaime and Cersei will both be dead by the end of WoW also. Jaime killing Cersei and then himself is my guess. Tommen and Myrcella will be dead before this.

podgemonster · 25-06-2015 2:02pm

The way Margery keeps calling Cersei sister got me thinking one could consider Loras to be Cersei's brother, or little brother or Valanquar.

While I think think the most likely scenario is that Tommen will die possibly due to Cersei's actions, Cersei decends into madness, repeats the actions of the Mad King and Jaime kills her. I think there's also a chance that Loras could kill Cersei to avenge/protect/promote Margery.

Sleepy · 25-06-2015 2:07pm

That's an interesting idea...

AFFC wrote:

"Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds," she said. "And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you."

(emphasis mine)

Nowhere does the prophecy state that it's Cersei's own brother that will wrap his hands around her throat... Is Loras Margaery's younger brother?

On that same line of thought, what if it's her own Champion's little brother that kills her? Would be a great twist for the Volonqar to be the Hound!

Mr Freeze · 25-06-2015 2:11pm

Sleepy wrote: »

Nowhere does the prophecy state that it's Cersei's own brother that will wrap his hands around her throat... Is Loras Margaery's younger brother?!

I think he is a year or 2 older.

podgemonster · 25-06-2015 2:39pm

The hound is an interesting concept. even more likely if Cleganebowl happens.

Washington Irving · 26-06-2015 7:32am

Loras is around a year older than Margaery, though he is a third son in the books. However, he is the eldest child in the show which probably rules him out unless they were to change who the valonqar is.

Think either Jaime or the Hound are the most likely.

Conall Cernach · 26-06-2015 10:02am

Washington Irving wrote: »

Loras is around a year older than Margaery, though he is a third son in the books. However, he is the eldest child in the show which probably rules him out unless they were to change who the valonqar is.

Think either Jaime or the Hound are the most likely.

When I read that bit I took the Valonqar to be a poetic name for despair or somesuch rather than an actual person.

Grey Wind · 05-07-2015 11:17am

I am 100% certain that the valonqar is Jaime. The Hound or any of the other random theories out there wouldn't have nearly as much of an impact as it being Jaime and GRRM isn't the type to make a twist for the sake of having a twist. It makes the most narrative sense for it to be Jaime.

TheIrishGrover · 05-07-2015 5:56pm

Gonna be difficult for Jamie to wrap his hands around her neck. Where's this theory about The Hound coming from? I mean I hope the whole hound being dead thing is a misdirection (I never believed it in the book. Unless I see a head on a stick untarred I don't believe anyone is dead). But I NEVER thought about The Hound as the valonqar. I just assumed it was Tyrion or Jamie like most people. The hound is a new one to me.

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