Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Quandary · 28-05-2012 8:57pm

Meh, it's not like we could have afforded Hazard anyway!

You have to wonder were Utd ever really in for him in the first place with the way he's been media whoring over the last while....

I can see it now, we'll sign Powell along with a left back. Pogba will leave, we'll be stuck with a midfield of 2 oaps, park, Carrick, Ando and a very injury prone Cleverley

No value in the market yada yada ......

Justin10 · 28-05-2012 8:58pm

Could the Pogba deal be put on hold with the situation with the Juve manager?

deano546 · 28-05-2012 9:00pm

Now its all about Kagawa, and (maybe) Modric

carlop · 28-05-2012 9:02pm

Rochey18 wrote: »

Could the Pogba deal be put on hold with the situation with the Juve manager?

I highly doubt it. Most managers in Italy don't have control over transfers, and I'm pretty sure Conte falls into that category. The scandal (for once) doesn't directly implicate Juve either, it relates to his time at Siena.

Adamcp898 · 28-05-2012 9:04pm

Probably for the best lads, I wouldn't have been unhappy if he did arrive but I would have been a bit discouraged that a big money signing came in and it wasn't in our most needed area. Wide options don't need any drastic improvement especially if it meant forgoing getting decent quality in the middle.

Pudsy33 · 28-05-2012 9:05pm

Quandary wrote: »

Meh, it's not like we could have afforded Hazard anyway!

You have to wonder were Utd ever really in for him in the first place with the way he's been media whoring over the last while....

I can see it now, we'll sign Powell along with a left back. Pogba will leave, we'll be stuck with a midfield of 2 oaps, park, Carrick, Ando and a very injury prone Cleverley

No value in the market yada yada ......

Is this a wind up? We had an offer accepted for him! He had agreed terms. WE ARE NOT BROKE FFS!

Lord TSC · 28-05-2012 9:05pm

I'm annoyed, but not as much as I would have been if he went to City.

As has already been said, God knows what way Chelsea will be next year. Even if he does improve their standing, he could have made City far more dangerous.

Now then, I just want confirmation on Kagawa before Chelsea or City decide to try and steal him too <_<

Professional Griefer · 28-05-2012 9:06pm

Why did I get my hopes up. Ah well, hopefully we'll finish up our signings before the euros.

bmcc10 · 28-05-2012 9:07pm

TBF the media made more of a circus than Hazard about it on the downside surely he will not be the only big name player Chelsea sign must be alot of promises.Just seems a bit small time the announcement on twitter.

Red Crow · 28-05-2012 9:08pm

Thank god that is over. Delighted he didn't sign for us but delighted he didn't sign for City. Chelsea will need a lot more than Hazard to be challenging for the Premier League.

Brian017 · 28-05-2012 9:16pm

No word of it on Chelsea's website. Glad we didn't get him the little attention seeker

Quandary · 28-05-2012 9:18pm

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Is this a wind up? We had an offer accepted for him! He had agreed terms. WE ARE NOT BROKE FFS!

Didn't say we are broke FFS.

We just can't really afford to be splashing 200k+per week on anybody IMO.

J. Marston · 28-05-2012 9:21pm

Never wanted Benzema Ozil Nasri Sneijder Hazard anyway.

Tired of this shít

.

Liam O · 28-05-2012 9:23pm

Eli Manning wrote: »

Thank god that is over. Delighted he didn't sign for us but delighted he didn't sign for City. Chelsea will need a lot more than Hazard to be challenging for the Premier League.

Wouldn't go that far tbh, with Hazard and Mata they now have 2 top creative midfielders and if Marin does a covering job well then they are sorted. Luis will come good for them too and if Torres hits form they'll be challenging next season. They could still go out and get a top striker but they do have Lukaku who has a lot of promise

ScummyMan · 28-05-2012 9:25pm

Jesus Christ we are turning into some cop outs in the transfer market in recent years. When was the last big signing we made?

We identify quality target
City/Chelsea/Madrid interested
We back down
"No value in market"

Rinse and repeat

MD1990 · 28-05-2012 9:27pm

list of players Man U have missed out on in last few years

2003 - Ronaldinho
2004 - Robben
2005 - Essien
2006 - Torres
2009 - Benzema
2010 - Ozil
2011 - Nasri,Alexis Sanchez
2012 - Hazard

Leiva · 28-05-2012 9:30pm

What the fück are you lot all smoking ??

You lost the league on goal difference FFS .

Goal difference !!!

Not because you have shíte players, not because you missed out on the Nasri's, Benzemas etc . It was as close as it gets .
UTD are still well in the mix and all you can do is pīss and moan about missing out on signing a media whore that has done feck all to prove he can do it in the toughest league in the World .

Spoiled I tell ya - spoiled .

:pac:

Kylo Ren · 28-05-2012 9:30pm

Damn, I thought we were going to get him.

Keno 92 wrote: »

I might of mentioned this before but.......We're not getting Hazard.

Keno 92 wrote: »

We're not signing Hazard *LALALALALALA* *I CANT HEAR YOU*

Like my dad used to stay, "If you have no expectations, you cannot be dissapointed".

Thanks dad.

Keno 92 wrote: »

We're not signing Hazard. End of. I expect no talk on this topic from hear on in. Good lads.

Keno 92 wrote: »

If we sign Hazard I'll stop posting on boards

today.

Keno 92 wrote: »

I'm saying United won't get Hazard because

1) We're so heavily linked with Kagawa.
2) He would cost a lot. £30-£35 million probably? Plus over 200k wages probably? Can't see United spending that and if they did that would probably be the end of transfers, and we need a CM.

Leiva · 28-05-2012 9:31pm

MD1990 wrote: »

list of players Man U have missed out on in last few years

2003 - Ronaldinho
2004 - Robben
2005 - Essien
2006 - Torres
2009 - Benzema
2010 - Ozil
2011 - Nasri,Alexis Sanchez
2012 - Hazard

Now put silverware beside those years .

Told ya - spoiled rotten

Kerrydude1981 · 28-05-2012 9:36pm

MD1990 wrote: »

list of players Man U have missed out on in last few years

2003 - Ronaldinho
2004 - Robben
2005 - Essien
2006 - Torres
2009 - Benzema
2010 - Ozil
2011 - Nasri,Alexis Sanchez
2012 - Hazard

Its like Groundhog day

Kagawa has to be signed now,which should happen as Utd seem to be the only club interested in him atm,I suppose it could have been worse re Hazard he could have said he was joining the Champions of England

J. Marston · 28-05-2012 9:36pm

Summer signings - James McCarthy £6 million, Nick Powell £3 million.

Fergie: ''We're happy with our squad, plus Darren Fletcher coming back is like a brand new signing.''

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FutureGuy · 28-05-2012 9:37pm

Honestly, I'm stunned he chose Chelsea over us in a direct fight.

Liam O · 28-05-2012 9:37pm

Well, suddenly Gaitan may be back in the mix I guess. I'd rather Kagawa than Hazard tbh when put side by side I'd say as he's more proven playing the central role than Hazard but I'd definitely bought into the idea of Kagawa, Hazard and Nani/Valencia behind Rooney...

Paul Tergat · 28-05-2012 9:38pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Honestly, I'm stunned he chose Chelsea over us in a direct fight.

im really not. probably bigger wages and the draw of London is pretty huge for most

kippy · 28-05-2012 9:38pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Honestly, I'm stunned he chose Chelsea over us in a direct fight.

€€€€€€ or should I say ££££££££
He wouldnt be the first player in the last decade to chose Chelsea over United.

MagicMarker · 28-05-2012 9:40pm

Absolutely delighted tbh, what a complete and utter tool. He'll fit right in at Chelsea.

Liam O · 28-05-2012 9:40pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Summer signings - James McCarthy £6 million, Nick Powell £3 million.

Fergie: ''We're happy with our squad, plus Darren Fletcher coming back is like a brand new signing.''

Wouldn't be too upset with those 2 and Kagawa tbh...

adox · 28-05-2012 9:42pm

Although its over in late May, it felt like this went on longer than Sneijder.

Kagawa please + AN other.

titan18 · 28-05-2012 9:44pm

MD1990 wrote: »

list of players Man U have missed out on in last few years

2003 - Ronaldinho
2004 - Robben
2005 - Essien
2006 - Torres
2009 - Benzema
2010 - Ozil
2011 - Nasri,Alexis Sanchez
2012 - Hazard

Out of those, Ronaldinho should have happened, Robben was cool and all, but I don't think we needed him at that time. Essien would have been nice. Torres, I'd say no as we had a young Rooney and Ronaldo. I don't care a damn about Benzema, no chance of Ozil as Real wanted him and he wanted them. Sanchez again no chance with Barcelona wanting him, and I don't think we needed him, and I think Nasri is a poor player.

With Hazard this year, his attitude seems crap, and I'd rather Kagawa and the differential in price and wages put towards a midfielder. I reckon Kagawa won't care as much about being rotated as Hazard would too

FutureGuy · 28-05-2012 9:44pm

Right...positives.

1) He went to Chelsea not City. A playmaker in a team depending on Torres to finish

2) We were after both Hazard and Kagawa at the same time so the money is there

3) Kagawa should be finalised soon. In for some other promising players.

MagicMarker · 28-05-2012 9:46pm

If we get Kagawa and hold on to Pogba I'll be ecstatic!

Also, I'd be interested to hear what Utd think of this Hazard fiasco, it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if we'd pulled out of any potential deal tbh.

SirDelboy18 · 28-05-2012 9:48pm

titan18 wrote: »

I don't care a damn about Benzema

I find it strange that you don't care a damn about one of the best strikers in world football at the moment. Big player to miss out on.

Paul Tergat · 28-05-2012 9:50pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Also, I'd be interested to hear what Utd think of this Hazard fiasco, it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if we'd pulled out of any potential deal tbh.

we might say this anyway to save face

strange how clubs have kept really quiet during this though and we are taking hazards word for it alll

kippy · 28-05-2012 9:50pm

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

I find it strange that you don't care a damn about one of the best strikers in world football at the moment. Big player to miss out on.

You win some, you lose some, that's football. No point in getting depressed about something one has absolutely no control over.

adox · 28-05-2012 9:50pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

3) Kagawa should be finalised soon. In for some other promising players.

I`ll believe it when it happens tbh. There is so much media outlets these days for gossip, its hard to keep track of what is really going on.

I dont think Utd ever confirmed that they bid for Hazard did they? I`d be happy if they did bid. At least that would show there are funds there for signings. If there are those sort of funds available Kagawa will most likely cost half of what Hazard would have, leaving a nice few quid in the kitty that could be spent elsewhere(hopefully)

Lord TSC · 28-05-2012 9:51pm

kippy wrote: »

You win some, you lose some, that's football. No point in getting depressed about something one has absolutely no control over.

When was the last time we "won" something like this though? When was the last time we got a "big" name singing for us? The truth is United haven'y won a transfer war for a while now...

ceegee · 28-05-2012 9:53pm

MD1990 wrote: »

list of players Man U have missed out on in last few years

2003 - Ronaldinho
2004 - Robben
2005 - Essien
2006 - Torres
2009 - Benzema
2010 - Ozil
2011 - Nasri,Alexis Sanchez
2012 - Hazard

Not sure what that list proves - several of those went to other clubs for footballing or cultural reasons. No club manages to sign everyone they want. Look at who we did sign during that time - Rooney, Ronaldo, Berbatov, Carrick, Hargreaves etc, its not like we're broke.

Of that list, most havent lived up to their hype long term, Hazard could well be a flop

DM_7 · 28-05-2012 9:54pm

MD1990 wrote: »

list of players Man U have missed out on in last few years

2003 - Ronaldinho
2004 - Robben
2005 - Essien
2006 - Torres
2009 - Benzema
2010 - Ozil
2011 - Nasri,Alexis Sanchez
2012 - Hazard

2003 - Ronaldo
2004 - Robben
2005 - Essien
2006 - Torres
2009 - Benzema, Ronaldo
2010 - Ozil
2011 - Nasri, De Gea
2012 - Hazard

List of Players Barcelona, AC Milan and Bayern Munich missed out on:pac:

J. Marston · 28-05-2012 9:55pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

If we get Kagawa and hold on to Pogba I'll be ecstatic!

Also, I'd be interested to hear what Utd think of this Hazard fiasco, it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if we'd pulled out of any potential deal tbh.

I doubt we'll hear anything from United. Maybe a back handed comment from Fergie about agents or some bollocks, but that's about it.

ceegee · 28-05-2012 9:55pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

kippy wrote: »

You win some, you lose some, that's football. No point in getting depressed about something one has absolutely no control over.

When was the last time we "won" something like this though? When was the last time we got a "big" name singing for us? The truth is United haven'y won a transfer war for a while now...

Beat a few clubs to get Jones, beat City for Berbatov.

titan18 · 28-05-2012 9:55pm

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

I find it strange that you don't care a damn about one of the best strikers in world football at the moment. Big player to miss out on.

Whilst,he's a really good player, I'd rather Rooney, and at the time we were linked, we had signed Berbatov for big money the season before. I don't think there was a chance we were signing him for what he went for, to come in as a 3rd striker

Lord TSC · 28-05-2012 9:57pm

ceegee wrote: »

Beat a few clubs to get Jones, beat City for Berbatov.

Were City the powerhouse they are today at that stage? Was there that much of a fiasco over Jones? I know Jones was good and was wanted, but I don't remember there being a massive bidding war over him.

bucketybuck · 28-05-2012 9:57pm

Yay, we didn't sign the winger, can we now please concentrate on buying a central midfielder please Mr Ferguson sir?

kippy · 28-05-2012 9:58pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

When was the last time we "won" something like this though? When was the last time we got a "big" name singing for us? The truth is United haven'y won a transfer war for a while now...

Clubs don't necessarily need "big" names signing for them all the time. Hazard isn't even the type of player that united need most at the moment, particularly for the figures mentioned and the lack of doing anything on a "big" stage.
Hazard is no doubt a great prospect but many a team has ponied up top dollar to realise that great prospects are anything but guaranteed.
United are operating against almost unlimited funds when you look at Chelsea and City and the same at Madrid and Barcelona. These are the types of teams United are competing against when signing some of these "big" names.

The bottom line is that you, or indeed anyone here, have any idea what players United have actually been in for in the past number of seasons, and what reasons players have for going where they go.

kippy · 28-05-2012 9:59pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Were City the powerhouse they are today at that stage? Was there that much of a fiasco over Jones? I know Jones was good and was wanted, but I don't remember there being a massive bidding war over him.

You've probably answered your own questions there tbh...

Copper_pipe · 28-05-2012 9:59pm

Jax Teller · 28-05-2012 10:00pm

Hope Kagawa is signed now in next few days .

homerjay2005 · 28-05-2012 10:03pm

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Hope Kagawa is signed now in next few days .

watch us f*ck that up now also.

fergie f*cked up last summer, he could well do it this summer also.

Kylo Ren · 28-05-2012 10:03pm

bucketybuck wrote: »

Yay, we didn't sign the winger, can we now please concentrate on buying a central midfielder please Mr Ferguson sir?

He can play on the wing but is certainly not a winger. Signing him/Kagawa will strengthen the midfield as it will alleviate pressure for our center mids. They can hold the ball up keeping possession and slap the ball out the flanks and to our forward while chipping in with a few goals themselves.

homerjay2005 · 28-05-2012 10:10pm

if torres regains his old form, chelsea will be frightening next season and we will be playing catch up not only on them but on city also.

fergie failed to react to citys signings last year by wasting the guts of 50 million, which i said at the time would turn out to be his biggest mistake at the helm of united, i just hope he doesnt repeat it this year.

as somebody just pointed out however, he doesnt have the CL final and league title to hide behind this summer. weve just had one of our worst seasons in the last 15 years, he needs to get his f*cking finger out and spend the money now that was "assigned" to hazard and on players who are world class, not players from swansea, west ham or stoke.

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

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