Glen of Imaal Terrier in the pound

Call me Socket · 06-05-2009 10:36pm #1

I was surprised to see this lad in a pound- they're so hard to come by...can nearly be described as rare.
If anyone has been looking for one with no luck and you'd be interested in this boy- get in touch with Meath pound 087 9419866 asap.

They've called him Fred....

Ref. No: 240

Temperament: A lovely friendly dog. Is not a working dog. Neutered. Microchipped. Would make a lovely house pet.

Description: Beige in colour. Found straying in Trim.

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EGAR · 06-05-2009 10:45pm

Your post highly annoys me! Thousands of dogs end up in pounds each year and no one give them the time of day because they are xbred or all too "common" breeds, yet in your eyes this lad is special and worthy of saving because he is labelled Glen of Imaal and therefore relatively rare??

Are you for real??

Call me Socket · 06-05-2009 11:04pm

Are you serious?
Where does it say in my post that in my eyes this dog is special and worthy of saving??
For your information Sarah, I see every dog as special and worthy of saving, but if I post EVERY poundie in the country up here I'd be at it all day.

Our man in Havana · 06-05-2009 11:22pm

Stop the bitching folks.

Call me Socket · 06-05-2009 11:27pm

Bitching is not my intention, but I have to say I'm not impressed that my motives to try to help a dog be saved from the pound are questioned and I am merely defending myself.

anniehoo · 07-05-2009 12:14pm

Egar why on earth are you berating Call Me Socket for advertising this??? i think he/she was just stating that its unusual to see a rare breed (which the Glen is) in the pound thats all. Of course no other dog deserves special treatment over another just because its "rare" but that wasnt CMS's intention here.

seanybiker · 07-05-2009 12:18pm

thats a lovely little fella. Human names on animals rule.

cowzerp · 07-05-2009 1:07pm

EGAR wrote: »

Your post highly annoys me! Thousands of dogs end up in pounds each year and no one give them the time of day because they are xbred or all too "common" breeds, yet in your eyes this lad is special and worthy of saving because he is labelled Glen of Imaal and therefore relatively rare??

Are you for real??

The cheek of you :mad:, She/he is trying to get a dog rescued that might have a chance because of its rarity and you think that this is wrong, dont you try to rescue Bull breeds mainly? Pompousity should be a bannable offense on here.

I love bull breeds but also feel that Irish dogs should be saved as there part of our heritage..and you've no superior right to deny this person in trying to get a dog rescued.

Bond-007 wrote: »

Stop the bitching folks.

i agree.
Egar needs to realise that she is not superior to others and cop on.

anniehoo wrote: »

Egar why on earth are you berating Call Me Socket for advertising this??? i think he/she was just stating that its unusual to see a rare breed (which the Glen is) in the pound thats all. Of course no other dog deserves special treatment over another just because its "rare" but that wasnt CMS's intention here.

Well said..

Our man in Havana · 07-05-2009 1:38pm

Microchipped

Was any attempt made to locate his owners who may be frantic?

Carroller16 · 07-05-2009 1:40pm

seanybiker wrote: »

thats a lovely little fella. Human names on animals rule.

Couldn't agree more. Calling a dog Ian, Simon or Gary is just very fuuny

ha-ya-said-what · 07-05-2009 1:44pm

In fairness I would tend to agree with Sarah as I can see where she is coming from. If he wasn't a Glen Of Imaal & so rare you wouldn't have posted it, but you felt for this reason someone out there must be looking for him (Kind thought tho, trying to assist in his owners locating him), but at the end of the day as they may be rare, he is no different to any other dog in the pound they all need a home or for the owners to find them.

In fact by cross posting certain information on dogs of specific breeds that are in the pound on certain sites can infact lead to these dogs being booked by a person & if the dog isn't reclaimed & they succeed in becoming the new owner what happens is the dog is sold, a complete act of greed & selfishness. This is becoming more & more common every week.

stevoman · 07-05-2009 1:52pm

EGAR wrote: »

Your post highly annoys me! Thousands of dogs end up in pounds each year and no one give them the time of day because they are xbred or all too "common" breeds, yet in your eyes this lad is special and worthy of saving because he is labelled Glen of Imaal and therefore relatively rare??

Are you for real??

woh! thats a bit harsh. the OP is trying to do a bit of good by locating an owner or getting the dog a new family.

Our man in Havana · 07-05-2009 1:54pm

Last warning folks. Tone it down.

Call me Socket · 07-05-2009 3:22pm

Bond-007 wrote: »

Was any attempt made to locate his owners who may be frantic?

I would imagine so Bond, Meath pound does possess a scanner. Unfortunately, a lot chip numbers are registered to the breeder and the buyer/adopter may not know that the details would have had to be transferred to their ownership details., so there are quite a lot of dogs whose owners can't be traced even though the dog is chipped.

Folks, I posted about that dog cos I was so surprised to see that particular breed in a pound....it was intended as a topic for discussion, and while I was at it I thought I'd put the pound contact details in for anyone who might have been interested.

It shouldn't have turned into this.
EGAR, you know well that I spend a lot of my time trying to help dogs, (and cats) and you know of my involvement with MIDS in raising money for rescues, so while I kind of see your point of view, I can't understand why you directed it at me.

Noopti · 07-05-2009 3:30pm

Call me Socket wrote: »

I would imagine so Bond, Meath pound does possess a scanner. Unfortunately, a lot chip numbers are registered to the breeder and the buyer/adopter may not know that the details would have had to be transferred to their ownership details., so there are quite a lot of dogs whose owners can't be traced even though the dog is chipped.

Shouldn't any responsible breeder/rescue centre keep records themselves regarding a dogs chip number and who the dog went too?
Therefore if the owner doesn't change the chip details and the dog is found, the breeder/rescue centre can forward on the details of the owner.

Maybe that is just an ideal world...but it seems pretty obvious to me of I was a breeder or a rescuer!

Hellrazer · 07-05-2009 3:47pm

Im just going to throw my opinion as to why Egar said what she did and if it is the reason(Sarah if you want to confirm it) then I agree 100% with Egar saying what she said.

Call me socket--If we were to allow every single rescue dog to have its own thread then thats all this forum would be full of.And I think thats what Egar meant.
Why should this one dog be singled out for its own thread when there are thousands out there.

Now imagine we had for the sake of argument 10 resuce centres posting here individual animals for rehoming???We would be inundated with threads.

Just my opinion.

Call me Socket · 07-05-2009 4:11pm

Noopti wrote: »

Shouldn't any responsible breeder/rescue centre keep records themselves regarding a dogs chip number and who the dog went too?
Therefore if the owner doesn't change the chip details and the dog is found, the breeder/rescue centre can forward on the details of the owner.

Maybe that is just an ideal world...but it seems pretty obvious to me of I was a breeder or a rescuer!

I know rescues who do, it's how they can identify a particular dog who repeatedly returns to them or to the pound that they work with. I don't think the pound themselves enforce transfer of microchip details- and any joe soap can home a dog from the pound, usually with no questions asked- one only has to turn up in person.
As for breeders, I'm not 100% sure of this myself.....but they will usually keep records of who bought their litters if they're in any way responsible. When they sell a dog they usually tell the buyer that they need to transfer the chip info themselves...some buyers don't do it, and if they do and then rehome the dog at a later stage then the new owners might not do it. It becomes very difficult to trace a dog's owner when the poor dog has bounced from one owner to another.

Call me Socket · 07-05-2009 4:23pm

Hellrazer wrote: »

Call me socket--If we were to allow every single rescue dog to have its own thread then thats all this forum would be full of.And I think thats what Egar meant.
Why should this one dog be singled out for its own thread when there are thousands out there.

Now imagine we had for the sake of argument 10 resuce centres posting here individual animals for rehoming???We would be inundated with threads.

Oh I understand that Richie, on another site I'm a member of there is a forum specifically for rescues to advertise dogs for rehoming and another section for the public to post their lost and found- if those forums weren't there then the various posts would be dotted all over the site in no order and of no benefit to anyone.

I was taken aback by EGAR's reply last night.....

Hellrazer wrote: »

If we were to allow every single rescue dog to have its own thread then thats all this forum would be full of.And I think thats what Egar meant

.....and to be honest, I don't think that was the reason for it. If it was, then why would she not say exactly that, instead of: Your post highly annoys me! and Are you for real??
It was unfair and upsetting, especially as Sarah knows me and I have been actively involved in helping her rescue.

EGAR · 07-05-2009 9:56pm

Cowzerp et al, denying others to rescue a dog?? Not at all, knock yourself out, plenty of pounds, plenty of dogs - unfortunately not all belong to rare breed or look cute so they do not merit their own thread.

Egar needs to realise that she is not superior to others and cop on.

So according to you I am not allowed to state my opinion on a DISCUSSION board? Nice one :pac:

OP, I do not have the slightest idea who you are but you seem to know me. Strange that.

Our man in Havana · 07-05-2009 9:58pm

Very Strange EGAR.

Call me Socket · 07-05-2009 10:19pm

EGAR wrote:

not all belong to rare breed or look cute so they do not merit their own thread.

Maybe you didn't see my earlier post re my reasons for opening the thread? Here it is again:

Call me Socket wrote: »

Folks, I posted about that dog cos I was so surprised to see that particular breed in a pound....it was intended as a topic for discussion, and while I was at it I thought I'd put the pound contact details in for anyone who might have been interested.

As for this-

EGAR wrote:

OP, I do not have the slightest idea who you are but you seem to know me. Strange that.

Strange isn't the word for it.
That's some short term memory.
Have a look in your records for a letter last year from MIDS, signed 'Socket' alongside my real name. Failing that, check your bank account for a cashed cheque in early April. Or even just look at my signature.
Or you could revisit the thread where I tried to help you get building materials. Or I can ask my friends to sign up here and confirm that I tried to get you a replacement car when yours was written off.

Jogging any memories???

palaver · 07-05-2009 11:33pm

Don't know what you are bickering about. I thought that you are all concerned about the creatures who nobody cares about otherwise.

Everyone is excited and delighted about EGAR's single bulldog/horse/donkey stories. Nobody would even dare to mention to talk about all the other animals who need care and TLC when she is posting her stories about her prefered breeds. What about poodles, beagles, labs, rabbits, whatnot?

Why suddenly this excitement about 'Fred'?

He is lovely though. Once had a kind of 'visiting dog like that who got killed by it's owners because he preferred wandering the Irish countryside instead of staying put in the shed`- against his nature.

Besides, rare breeds in a pound might be prey to dodgy breeders. So I think it's ok to post such a find right here where there are supposedly responsible animal lovers.
Or are there?
Or is there some personal breed competion? Cuddly versus bull? Or who does the best doggie charity?

Sad, really.

Lauragoesmad · 07-05-2009 11:48pm

Bond-007 wrote: »

Very Strange EGAR.

Bond, are you are telling people to stop bitching and then egging them on? It does seem to look that way.

Also, I think it is a good thing that the OP posted about Fred. Maybe someone who specifically wanted that breed of dog might take him instead of going to a breeder.

And before people start going mad about me saying that, I actually have a beaut of a staffie who I'm fostering at the minute. All doggies deserve a home in my eyes.

Call me Socket · 07-05-2009 11:48pm

palaver wrote: »

Don't know what you are bickering about. I thought that you are all concerned about the creatures who nobody cares about otherwise.

Everyone is excited and delighted about EGAR's single bulldog/horse/donkey stories. Nobody would even dare to mention to talk about all the other animals who need care and TLC when she is posting her stories about her prefered breeds. What about poodles, beagles, labs, rabbits, whatnot?

Why suddenly this excitement about 'Fred'?

He is lovely though. Once had a kind of 'visiting dog like that who got killed by it's owners because he preferred wandering the Irish countryside instead of staying put in the shed`- against his nature.

Besides, rare breeds in a pound might be prey to dodgy breeders. So I think it's ok to post such a find right here where there are supposedly responsible animal lovers.
Or are there?
Or is there some personal breed competion? Cuddly versus bull? Or who does the best doggie charity?

Sad, really.

There's no personal breed competion
I don't do a 'doggie charity'
I didn't post the dog's details cos he's cuddly as you put it.... personally, the Glen of Imaal isn't a breed I would want to own myself, I prefer large breeds.
EGAR denied knowing me and I'm refreshing her memory.

Jesus, I post about a dog and there's all this off topic input:rolleyes:

.

Lauragoesmad · 07-05-2009 11:56pm

palaver wrote: »

Besides, rare breeds in a pound might be prey to dodgy breeders.

This little fella is neutered so no worries there but I'm sure there are evils out there who look for un-neutered/spayed "pedigrees".:rolleyes:

PinkTulips · 08-05-2009 12:36am

personally i think it was a good idea to start a seperate thread for fred... someone looking for a rare breed, who might be planning on paying breeder for one soon, wouldn't be searching the homes wanted thread or the rescue sites and therefore wouldn't stumble across fred but might be really delighted for the opportunity to rescue him.

rare breeds might not appeal to alot of people who go to rescues looking for a plain old family dog... they often require specialist care and can be pricey when it comes to vets bills as they can often have congenital problems. he might not be easily rehomable just because he's 'cute'... one would hope people searching the rescues for a pet are basing their decisions are more than just cute factor.

Call me Socket · 08-05-2009 1:03am

Most people going to the pound for a dog wouldn't know that the Glen of Imaal is becoming increasingly rare.....they mightn't even know that he even is a Glen of Imaal. Tbh, if I'd only seen the photo of Fred and not the title I wouldn't have known myself what breed he was! Would've guessed at a wire haired terrier of some sort crossed with something else.

palaver · 08-05-2009 1:29am

Call me Socket wrote: »

There's no personal breed competion
I don't do a 'doggie charity'
I didn't post the dog's details cos he's cuddly as you put it.... personally, the Glen of Imaal isn't a breed I would want to own myself, I prefer large breeds.
EGAR denied knowing me and I'm refreshing her memory.

Jesus, I post about a dog and there's all this off topic input:rolleyes:

.

I wasn't critisizing you, I actually didn't see a problem with your post, was surprised about EGAR's reaction and actually see rather your point than EGAR's who was a bit overreacting, imo.
Posting this 'find' was just a surprise rather than a promotion of one dog, as I understood it.

A Glen of Imaal is indeed a rare Irish breed and it's worth to mention it here that you found one in a pound. And being chipped means that he obviously came from a breeder or responsible owners as you mentioned above. And I wonder how he ended up in the pound since rare breeds are expensive and not easily dumped.

If you look around in pounds you hardly ever see a pure or rare breed. And I once did a lot of looking - ending up with my beloved beagle-look xxxx who was regarded as one who "wasn't worth it" ....
And boy was/is she worth it ... :rolleyes:

Our man in Havana · 08-05-2009 1:35am

Are we talking about rescuing dogs or having a public slagging match?

It is far too late to be carrying on like this. Thread closed.

Glen of Imaal Terrier in the pound

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