Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

Zapp Brannigan · 17-05-2012 8:29pm

So has this been confirmed anywhere apart from unreliable tweets?

G.K. · 17-05-2012 8:30pm

Duncan Jenkins

Jesus Wept · 17-05-2012 8:31pm

mayordenis wrote: »

You soothsayer, you.

Pretty much. Most other people were saying they hope something is sorted out before the Euros.

Mr Alan · 17-05-2012 8:31pm

Jenkins hedged his bets somewhat

Strongbow10 · 17-05-2012 8:33pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

So has this been confirmed anywhere apart from unreliable tweets?

nope

although Duncan Jenkins is pretty reliable as ITK merchants go

He did also add the disclaimer that the only other option could be Louis Van Gaal, and that his source never got back to him

tibor · 17-05-2012 8:34pm

opr wrote: »

duncan jenkins ‏@duncanjenkinsFC
okay my source has not got back to me. the person i was told is the new D.O.F of #lfc is txixi berigistain. only other possibility is L.V.G

This is great work by FSG if true!
Txiki did his first public interview in ages with Ballague on Revista a few weeks ago and afterwards Guilliem let it be known that Abramovich was sniffing around trying to get him to come to Chelsea.

daithijjj · 17-05-2012 8:36pm

G.K. wrote: »

Jen Chang ‏@JenChang88

I'm very curious to see what Roberto Martinez could do with better players and a much higher quality lineup.

This tweet was on April 16.

Cant dispute his knowledge of players but he is taking Ian Cotton's job no?.

tibor · 17-05-2012 8:40pm

daithijjj wrote: »

Cant dispute his knowledge of players but he is taking Ian Cotton's job no?.

Alledgedly.

Finical · 17-05-2012 8:41pm

Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague
Txiki Beguiristain has not been approached by LFC. But I am pretty sure he has other offers.

It's true so?

Sick of this twitter crap.

Snakeblood · 17-05-2012 8:42pm

I've been following the thread since before Christmas. Not a Liverpool fan, and I thought Dalglish should go, based on results. If this thing with Txiki is true, then that's an excellent step forward for Liverpool, and to me at least, indicates FSG know that they're in a serious battle. They've already paid off 200 million of the clubs debts, they're allowing reinvestment. I think they deserve to have a little breathing room.

K-9 · 17-05-2012 8:45pm

djPSB wrote: »

Liam Tomkins ‏@liam_tomkins
Kenny Dalglish is supposed to have refused compensation after being sacked, telling FSG to put the money towards transfers.

Apparently Kenny is dumb for doing that and also a greedy fecker if he takes compensation.

Place has gone schizo!

tibor · 17-05-2012 8:45pm

tibor wrote: »

This is great work by FSG if true!
Txiki did his first public interview in ages with Ballague on Revista a few weeks ago and afterwards Guilliem let it be known that Abramovich was sniffing around trying to get him to come to Chelsea.

Guilliem the party pooper.

Guillem Balague wrote:

‏@GuillemBalague
Follow
Txiki Beguiristain has not been approached by LFC. But I am pretty sure he has other offers.

http://bit.ly/MoT9uS

Leiva · 17-05-2012 8:45pm

@GuillemBalague: Txiki Beguiristain has not been approached by LFC. But I am pretty sure he has other offers.

dfx- · 17-05-2012 8:48pm

whatawaster wrote: »

Let's all settle down and watch this for the next hour

Remember watching it at the time and remembering back as a Barcelona fan during that season and defeats to start with.

Fascinating insight into breaking apart the old grandeur of the club, taking out the VIP hospitality rooms, sending players on loans and either renegotiating stupid contracts with the likes of Rochemback and Saviola and Kluivert or shifting them out of the club. A root and branch restructure of the club from top to bottom. There were some heavy defeats in the first few months though.....

Yet I can't remember why he left..whether he fell out with Laporta, fell with Laporta when his term was up or fell out with Rosell.

Would his name become the new 'the Greek'? :pac:

mike65 · 17-05-2012 8:48pm

He knows nothing that fella!

ush · 17-05-2012 8:49pm

K-9 wrote: »

Apparently Kenny is dumb for doing that and also a greedy fecker if he takes compensation.

Place has gone schizo!

Its crazy! All these posters having different opinions. Absolute lunacy!

CL7 · 17-05-2012 8:49pm

Leiva wrote: »

@GuillemBalague: Txiki Beguiristain has not been approached by LFC. But I am pretty sure he has other offers.

Strongbow10 · 17-05-2012 8:49pm

Leiva wrote: »

@GuillemBalague: Txiki Beguiristain has not been approached by LFC. But I am pretty sure he has other offers.

In that case he is definately coming.

Only a couple of days ago Balague was adamant Kenny was staying, his sources told him

willmunny1990 · 17-05-2012 8:50pm

djPSB wrote: »

Wouldn't be totally off the wall for Guardiola to be interested now.

Christ, astonishing levels of delusion displayed in the above post.

The man has just left one of the greatest team of all time because he was stressed out and needed a break. He isn't going to move to a new country to manage an 8th place side a week later.

NukaCola · 17-05-2012 8:50pm

Leiva wrote: »

@GuillemBalague: Txiki Beguiristain has not been approached by LFC. But I am pretty sure he has other offers.

Hes nailed on so....

Jesus Wept · 17-05-2012 8:51pm

Someone fetch Opr some valium.

mayordenis · 17-05-2012 8:52pm

Honestly I just can't put any stock in Ballague rumours he's just so full of it.

Strongbow10 · 17-05-2012 8:54pm

mayordenis wrote: »

Honestly I just can't put any stock in Ballague rumours he's just so full of it.

He hasn't got a clue, how anyone puts any stock in what he says is beyond me

some people are on the inside, some are just outside looking in

He is half way down the country with his binoculars out

djPSB · 17-05-2012 8:55pm

amiable · 17-05-2012 8:56pm

markie29 wrote: »

anyone want a beer...its been another long day of rumours for LFC!! im tired of this already

I'm enjoying one of these bad boys

tibor · 17-05-2012 8:57pm

In fairness I'd side with Ballague on this one over random blogger Duncan Jenkins(who?) who is already hedging his bets "hope its not wrong mates, not my usual source". Guillem has close contact with the man and convinced him to do his first interview in ages on Revista recently.

Guillem said at the time that Txiki had recently had contact with Chelsea, so I guess that's the other offer he's talking about.

amiable · 17-05-2012 9:01pm

tibor wrote: »

In fairness I'd side with Ballague on this one over random blogger Duncan Jenkins(who?) who is already hedging his bets "hope its not wrong mates, not my usual source". Guillem has close contact with the man and convinced him to do his first interview in ages on Revista recently.

Guillem said at the time that Txiki had recently had contact with Chelsea, so I guess that's the other offer he's talking about.

He's not just a random blogger at this stage.
He's got a fair bit right before

amiable · 17-05-2012 9:02pm

The people making the documentary behind the scenes must be delighted

Washington Irving · 17-05-2012 9:02pm

Guillem Balague on 12th May:

"Lfc owners have decided to keep Dalglish. But they are looking for a DoF. Will someone like Txiki Beguiristain work with KD? Intriguing"

I think it's fair to say he doesn't know what he's talking about

Laika1986 · 17-05-2012 9:04pm

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ajm7FLwxa9txdFJpcS1pWXVPRTNTdWpkcUVXck9PTGc&gid=2

All Txiki Begiristain's transfers for barca

Gbear · 17-05-2012 9:04pm

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

First things first, how do you pronounce his name?

Cheeky Big-air-is-tine, I think.

PFL · 17-05-2012 9:04pm

Is it true Kenny said no to the compensation he would have been due, saying to put it towards player transfers. :eek: what a man, anyone else would have took every penny due to them.

Strongbow10 · 17-05-2012 9:05pm

Saul-Goode9 wrote: »

Guillem Balague on 12th May:

"Lfc owners have decided to keep Dalglish. But they are looking for a DoF. Will someone like Txiki Beguiristain work with KD? Intriguing"

you couldn't make it up

He is like the king of the wannabe ITK's (who get a kick out of pretending to know something)

redzerdrog · 17-05-2012 9:05pm

amiable wrote: »

He's not just a random blogger at this stage.
He's got a fair bit right before

the 1st one to tweet about kenny leaving and has had pretty much every team sheet right before enyone else

I wrecken he is jay spearings dad and Ian ayers lovechild all in one but whoever he is he has a serious contact within the club

flanzer · 17-05-2012 9:06pm

Saul-Goode9 wrote: »

Guillem Balague on 12th May:

"Lfc owners have decided to keep Dalglish. But they are looking for a DoF. Will someone like Txiki Beguiristain work with KD? Intriguing"

I think it's fair to say he doesn't know what he's talking about

Was just about to post that, 2 days before Kenny gets the bullet, whileat the same time, other ITKs were saying he got the bullet!!

I follow him for the LOLs

Strongbow10 · 17-05-2012 9:06pm

PFL wrote: »

Is it true Kenny said no to the compensation he would have been due, saying to put it towards player transfers. :eek: what a man, anyone else would have took every penny due to them.

sounds like an urban legend to me

something that will be spun as fact in the years to come

tibor · 17-05-2012 9:06pm

amiable wrote: »

He's not just a random blogger at this stage.
He's got a fair bit right before

Genuinely haven't heard of him before now.

Saul-Goode9 wrote:

Guillem Balague on 12th May:

"Lfc owners have decided to keep Dalglish. But they are looking for a DoF. Will someone like Txiki Beguiristain work with KD? Intriguing"

Not that I want to go down the road of defending Ballbag's past predictions, but he wasn't the only one saying that. Have seen a few journos suggest there were some conditions attached to Kenny continuing that he wouldn't accept.

Anyhow, this should be a fairly cut and dry issue to see who's full of ****!

Gbear · 17-05-2012 9:08pm

I suppose the thing with ITK's is that although it's possible to check every thing they say after the fact to see if they were accurate, most people on the internet are too lazy to do that so it's harder than it should be to spot the spoofers.

amiable · 17-05-2012 9:09pm

tibor wrote: »

Genuinely haven't heard of him before now.

He's worth a follow. Can be quite funny

monkey9 · 17-05-2012 9:15pm

Bloody hell, over ten long pages in one day! LFC, hey?? No way am i reading back through all that rumour and intrigue. I've had it all day in work.

In terms of who i want in, it's Rafa all the way. I know it won't happen, but that would be my choice! After that, it would be Klopp!!

But being realistic, in terms of all the second tier managers that have been mentioned, my choice would be ABV. He was shafted at Chelsea, i felt. There was no point appointing someone like that just to sack him after seven months. It's long term or nothing with somebody like him!

As for Martinez, he's only news because it's been officially announced. And it's been announced by Dave Whelan of whom we needed his permission. We'll be talking to other managers as well it seems, managers who we won't have to tell the media we're talking to so the Martinez talks are not that relevant as such. It's not like he's the outstanding candidate right now.

I have a lot of time for Martinez, he seems a decent manager who could do really good things in management. But i fear he could be out of his depth at Liverpool. His stint at Wigan has been overhyped, i feel. Yes, he's kept them up. But if he was as good as the hype suggests, should this not have been the season where he took Wigan away from any sort of relegation battle and somewhere close to what the likes of West Brom, Norwich and Swansea have done this year??

In saying that, you see clubs on the continent give young managers a chance all the time, managers who go on to be wanted by the top English clubs.

As i said, in realistic terms of who we could get, if it's not to be Rafa which i doubt it will be, my choice would be AVB. And once appointed, give him more than one bloody season.

markie29 · 17-05-2012 9:16pm

i wish we could go back to the days of no twitter in this world and we had to rely on Ceefax or Aertel for transfer news/activity....the amount of crap on twitter is unbelievable!!

daithijjj · 17-05-2012 9:17pm

Balague is a gas man, ie full of hot air. Occasionally, he stumbles on something.

I stopped following him this long ago.

"Albert Riera is not a target of Rafa Benitez, he is a smokescreen for another target".

7 days later Riera signs and blog entry deleted.

Jesus Wept · 17-05-2012 9:20pm

monkey9 wrote: »

Bloody hell, over ten long pages in one day! LFC, hey?? No way am i reading back through all that rumour and intrigue. I've had it all day in work.

My suggestion for a midday and 6pm update post should have been taken up.

missingtime · 17-05-2012 9:20pm

daithijjj wrote: »

Balague is a gas man, ie full of hot air. Occasionally, he stumbles on something.

I stopped following him this long ago.

"Albert Riera is not a target of Rafa Benitez, he is a smokescreen for another target".

7 days later Riera signs and blog entry deleted.

He posted this yesterday:

Guillem Balague @GuillemBalague About Rafa. There is no news whatsoever to tell. Nothing has changed with him in regards to Liverpool in the last weeks. Nothing to report

monkey9 · 17-05-2012 9:21pm

PFL wrote: »

Is it true Kenny said no to the compensation he would have been due, saying to put it towards player transfers. :eek: what a man, anyone else would have took every penny due to them.

This is the first i've heard of this, but quite frankly, i wouldn't be surprised. Compensation hasn't been mentioned in the press as far as i've heard but i have actually thought he would do that, as i said, i just haven't heard if has or not.

Even reading his comments in the Liverpool Echo about getting behind the owners and supporting the club! All he's ever done has been for the good of the club. He's someone you can put your absolute trust in that he'll always have the good of the club at heart, it's not even a debate.

He is, was and always will be an absolute legend and nothing can ever change that!!

super_furry · 17-05-2012 9:22pm

Balague used to be genuinely close to Bentiez when he first moved to England and has a real insight to what was going on at Anfield at the time but now he's just a spoofed.

UnitedIrishman · 17-05-2012 9:35pm

daithijjj wrote: »

Balague is a gas man, ie full of hot air. Occasionally, he stumbles on something.

I stopped following him this long ago.

"Albert Riera is not a target of Rafa Benitez, he is a smokescreen for another target".

7 days later Riera signs and blog entry deleted.

He's an absolute bullshítter.

He was on Revista de la Liga some years ago (the summer Torres signed for Liverpool) saying how he had spoken to Torres, he had seen his house in Manchester that he was buying and that he was going to be a Manchester United player. A month later and he's playing for you lot.

Numerous other craptacular predictions on his website appeared later.

Crash Bang Wall · 17-05-2012 9:39pm

Laika1986 wrote: »

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ajm7FLwxa9txdFJpcS1pWXVPRTNTdWpkcUVXck9PTGc&gid=2

All Txiki Begiristain's transfers for barca

A lot of those transfers didnt work out for big outlas:

Henr
Milito
Caceras
Hleb

daithijjj · 17-05-2012 9:40pm

missingtime wrote: »

He posted this yesterday:

Guillem Balague @GuillemBalague About Rafa. There is no news whatsoever to tell. Nothing has changed with him in regards to Liverpool in the last weeks. Nothing to report

There seems to be a growing opinion that Rafa will simply not work under a DOF, ever.

delw · 17-05-2012 9:49pm

Just seen this on .tv,make of it what you will
LucyChambersLFC
Anfield is turning into a studio this evening for a rather exciting photoshoot!
http://twitter.com/#!/LucyChambersLFC/status/203210086674477057/photo/1/large

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

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