Threadneedle Road/Taylor's Hill/Kingston Road Junction

Instead of going left from the Ardilaun, go right!

You can take Maunsells Road, Shantalla Road, and the Old Seamus Quirke road to get you to Westside. Rest of the way should be recognisable.

Google maps directions

Either of those is possible, there are side roads and entrances not too far down on both roads where you could turn easily. No restricted movements on either apart from the right turns you mentioned.

Of those two options, B is the easier one to go with I think. Turn left at the traffic lights to go down Threadneedle road. It's quite wide, and there are a lot of places where you can turn around. Kingston Road is quite narrow.

In your situation, I would do option A.

Reasoning: for a person who has gotten majorly lost when then tried to follow RHG's route previously, there is less risk of going wrong if you minimise and simplify the number of turns. So going straight ahead and doing a 180-degree turn is better than turning in the opposite direction and then turning and turning again.

It would be different for someone doing this several times a week. For for a once-a-fortnight user of the route simplicity is better than directness.

Regardless of what route you take, safe trip and...



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tomhenryford wrote: »

You're not meant to alright there's a makeshift island thing but I've seen loads of cars hump across it and turn right in the couple of times I've been there so far.

If that's your plan why not just break the rules further up and turn right at the lights

Is this change still considered temporary or is it going to be permanent ? Alot of parents are stopping cars in the middle of the road between the lights and Deane Roundabout to drop kids of for school which is going to lead to someone getting hurt. Is it really making a difference or just moving the traffic

Hopefully they're biding their time and will randomly station a traffic corps car there for a few days to send a strong message. Everyone has had enough time to get used to the new layout at this stage although the notices should be more obvious as per my previous post in the other thread.

Good, I hope the notices are more obvious now. I was there weeks ago coming up the Taylor's Hill Rd going straight on to Kingston Rd. The only notice I saw at the time was a large sign on the far left hand side. My main thought was the notice should be attached to the lights or on the right hand side as that's the direction the idiots are going.

http://connachttribune.ie/motorists-ignore-right-turn-ban-junction-change-612/

This evening around 6pm the tailback on taylors hill was back to Ardmore (I'm guessing about 500m) all due to cars attempting to turn right, which is now prohibited. (there was lots of annoyed honking of horns)

Its a farce until the gardai start enforcement

?Cee?view wrote: »

Did you not see that the green lights are directional now though?

There's no general green, just straight and left.

Sorry no I was passing the other way and was just looking for a sign attached to the lights. If they've done anything to make it more obvious that's good news.

beardybrewer wrote: »

Sorry no I was passing the other way and was just looking for a sign attached to the lights. If they've done anything to make it more obvious that's good news.

I haven't been in town since last week, but then there was a big lit-up-billboard-type sign on Threadneedle Road 500m or so before the junction notifying you of the change.

Although tbh, the directional green light should be enough for any driver who's actually paying attention

I went thru in a vehicle today. Arrows painted on the road and left / straight green arrows made it 100% clear to me what I could / couldn't do.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I went thru in a vehicle today. Arrows painted on the road and left / straight green arrows made it 100% clear to me what I could / couldn't do.

I'm of the belief that people who are turning right are fully aware that they are not allowed to do it, but are just doing it anyway.

Uncle Mclovin wrote: »

Don't know if anyone on here drives this way on week mornings but just said I'd highlight it. They changed the traffic light system on Threadneedle before Christmas and all it has done is make traffic worse. It literally is twice as bad coming from Rahoon to Salthill.

Who makes these decisions and is there any way of making a complaint somewhere to go back to the old system?

It was actually changed about two months before Christmas,

I go through daily and it either better or no worse, except then some numpties try an illegal right turn.

the_sonandmoon wrote: »

The no right turns (from Kingston and Taylors Hill) were introduced about 2 months before Christmas. They were working well (apart from the pr!cks who ignore them and wait to turn right, making everyone behind wait and back up the traffic).
About a week before Christmas they introduced a new light sequence where traffic from BOD Rd goes, THEN Threadneedle, and then Taylors Hill/Kingston. Each sequence takes forever. That, I think, I what is being complained about since just before Christmas.

This is what I was saying. Not enough cars get through the junction in each sequence and its causing huge knock on effects for the rest of the area.

They really need to rethink this.

BOD road is stopped dead in both directions every morning now. not because of the introduction of the no right turn at the Kingston junction but directly as a result of the more recent light sequence change Uncle Mclovin is referring to.

They have also changed the sequence of the lights filtering onto BOD Rd particularly the ones at the shrine on the Rahoon/cemetery Rd opposite the Glen Oaks and it too is making a bad situation worse.

As for the local Muppet's who are more than aware of the ban on right turns at some of the Kingston junctions but continue to flaunt the rules, they should be dealt with as harshly as possible and with no mercy whatsoever.

Another thing I have not heard mention of here relating to the Kingston junction is the work the Corpo carried out on Threadneedle Rd prior to the introduction of the no right turn. They introduced traffic calming measures on Threadneedle Rd but more importantly they also introduced one of the widest cycle lanes in the city at the Kingston junction officially reducing it down to one lane.

Before that cycle lane was introduced there was ample room there for two lanes of traffic (allbeit unofficial) and if a car traveling from Blackrock to the Kingston junction that wished to turn right at the junction to go down towards the Ardilaun Hotel was held waiting for through traffic coming from the BOD road to Salthill, traffic behind that car could safely go straight through on the inside space (now the cycle lane). I'm all for making the roads safer for cyclists and to that end it's fine but the problem now is that if one car needs to turn right now, it holds up everything coming behind it which was never the case under the old system.

If anything, that right hand turn should be banned now too.

Galway City Council response to the change in the sequencing of the lights..

"The further changes made to the signals were to deal with safety issues with the original timings. On the original timings vehicles coming from Threadneedle that were turning right would do so when there gaps in oncoming traffic from Bishop O' Donnell Road. The Threadneedle traffic would get a red and Bishop O' Donnell stays green with a green right turn arrow also. However if a vehicle waiting in the junction to turn right, did not know that that oncoming traffic still had a green it makes the turn even though they see approaching traffic expecting it to stop. This has led to some near misses at this junction.

The left turn filter for Kingston Road was also changed as the number of cars that can avail of the left turn lane is limited by the queue for the straight ahead movement and therefore limited in the amount of relief it gave to this arm. However vehicles that could not access this lane regularly mounted the footpath putting pedestrians lives at risk.

We have made some changes to the timings at this junction and will continue to monitor to see what further changes are required. In line with this we have programmed in for somebody to go out when the schools are back after Christmas to observe traffic behaviour. We cannot reintroduce the original traffic sequence due to the above but are looking also at alternatives which would help alleviate the traffic issues and address the safety concerns."

Am I correct that this was the system that was in place for years before all the changes and before they introduced the widest cycle lane in Ireland on threadneedle road ?

They also suggested that children be dropped off at Kingston / Taylors Hill junction and walk to school which is infuriating. I wonder where exactly they recommend dropping the kids.