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How to write these as Gaeilge

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  • 20-07-2015 7:31pm
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    Oldstyle1
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    I want to put these two names on signs an just make sure I have the correct spelling etc as Gaeilge.

    Ms Brennan

    Mr. Kelly

    No panic on them, just when ever anyone gets a chance, I tried google translate but couldn't getting direct translation

    Thanks so much


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    Insect Overlord
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    Thread moved from Teach na nGealt. Should fit in much better here.


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    Oldstyle1
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    Thank you, would appreciate if anyone could get back to me on it.

    Thanks again


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    Insect Overlord
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    For future reference, this is a decent on-line resource for Irish names: http://www.ainm.ie/

    Mr Kelly: An tUasal Ó Ceallaigh

    Ms Brennan: Bean Ní Bhraonáin


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    An gal gréine
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    Iníon Uí Bhraonáin....Miss Brennan.


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    Oldstyle1
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭Oldstyle1


    Thanks an file and an gal gréine

    Are both ok to use

    Thanks for the reference to ainm.ie site an file


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    An Riabhach
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    I would've thought it was Iníon Ní Bhraonáin,because we were taught that Uí would only be used for a married woman,e.g.
    Máire Bean Uí Bhraonáin.

    Just a little advice OP.....never use Google Translate-it is a calamity!!


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    feargale
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    An File wrote: »
    Mr Kelly: An tUasal Ó Ceallaigh

    Ms Brennan: Bean Ní Bhraonáin
    An gal gréine wrote: »
    Iníon Uí Bhraonáin....Miss Brennan.

    The purpose of the Ms. appendage in English is to conceal marital status, yet both of the foregoing posts disclose it. My only experience of the use of a Ms. equivalent in Irish was an encounter with a lady, whose name, let's say, would be anglicised as Mary O'Neill. She called herself Mãire Néill. No Uí, no Ní. So, I would suggest Māire Braonāin. Irish has less formality than most European languages. If she objects to disclosing her first name leave it at Braonāin. If she regards her marital status as irrelevant, she probably sees her gender as being equally irrelevant.


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    An gal gréine
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    An Riabhach wrote: »
    I would've thought it was Iníon Ní Bhraonáin,because we were taught that Uí would only be used for a married woman,e.g.
    Máire Bean Uí Bhraonáin.

    Just a little advice OP.....never use Google Translate-it is a calamity!!

    Mrs. Mary Brennan....Máire (Bean) Uí Bhraonáin.
    Mary Brennan..........Máire Ní Bhraonáin.
    Miss Mary Brennan....Máire Iníon Uí Bhraonáin.

    The latter means literally Mary, the daughter of Mr. Brennan and that's why
    Uí Bhraonáin is used here.


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    feargale
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    An gal gréine wrote: »
    Mrs. Mary Brennan....Máire (Bean) Uí Bhraonáin.[B
    Mary Brennan..........Máire Ní Bhraonáin.
    Miss Mary Brennan....Máire Iníon Uí Bhraonáin.

    The latter means literally Mary, the daughter of Mr. Brennan and that's why
    Uí Bhraonáin is used here.

    Ms. !!!???


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    Insect Overlord
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    I've never seen an Irish language equivalent of that convention.

    Perhaps the nice people on Gaeilge Amháin on Facebook would be able to help.


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    feargale
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    An File wrote: »
    I've never seen an Irish language equivalent of that convention.

    Perhaps the nice people on Gaeilge Amháin on Facebook would be able to help.

    Well at post no. 8 I've recounted my only experience of it. OP has asked for a translation of Ms..


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    sailnathona
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    an gal gréine is correct.


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    An gal gréine
    Registered Users Posts: 941 ✭✭✭An gal gréine


    feargale wrote: »
    The purpose of the Ms. appendage in English is to conceal marital status, yet both of the foregoing posts disclose it. My only experience of the use of a Ms. equivalent in Irish was an encounter with a lady, whose name, let's say, would be anglicised as Mary O'Neill. She called herself Mãire Néill. No Uí, no Ní. So, I would suggest Māire Braonāin. Irish has less formality than most European languages. If she objects to disclosing her first name leave it at Braonāin. If she regards her marital status as irrelevant, she probably sees her gender as being equally irrelevant.

    Sorry feargale, I didn't address that Ms.
    I've not seen a Gaelic equivalent and what you suggest seems like one answer to it. The late writer, Nuala Ó Faoláin's reason for her not altering the male Ó Faoláin, but having a clear feminine first name may have been her answer to the English language Ms.


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    hullaballoo
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    Yes, I've seen a lot of women who have Irish names just leave it Ó _________.


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