Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Mitch Connor · 19-03-2012 1:29am

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the premier league player of the year has already been decided in the past 2 weeks...

the voting at united will take place in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

you have to wonder why.... there's like 50 votes to take or something, how long could it possibly take to get their votes. They could do it the day before the awards if they wanted too.

MANUTD99 · 19-03-2012 1:29am

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the premier league player of the year has already been decided in the past 2 weeks...

the voting at united will take place in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

So what?

We should pick a player of the season while there is 9/10 games left in the season,how stupid

Pro. F · 19-03-2012 1:45am

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Still a pile of games to be played and a Premiership Title to be won.Lets talk about POTY in end of May please:rolleyes:

Talking about will do no harm. Calm yourself.

Jax Teller · 19-03-2012 2:21am

Any following @redissue on twitter coming out with some horrible stuff about Muamba .

adox · 19-03-2012 2:35am

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Any following @redissue on twitter coming out with some horrible stuff about Muamba .

Not following and after reading their timeline, glad I'm not.

Pro. F · 19-03-2012 2:52am

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Any following @redissue on twitter coming out with some horrible stuff about Muamba .

What a pain in the ass having people like that representing the club's fans. Hateful attitude on him.

tvercetti · 19-03-2012 3:55am

I think we all let Utds central midfield situation get to us sometimes but hearing the commentator in the Liverpool game say "Jay Spearing is keeping Adam out of the team" brightened my day and made things not look so bad.

Revolution9 · 19-03-2012 3:55am

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Any following @redissue on twitter coming out with some horrible stuff about Muamba .

Was about to post about this. Real w*nker running their twitter feed.

Son Of A Vidic · 19-03-2012 4:59am

TheDoc wrote: »

I think he will be remembered fondly, and he can be proud of carrying United to their 19th title when Rooney was out of sorts, injured and misfiring. He stepped up to the plate.

Berbatov Proud? Carrying? Are you serious? He can also be proud of throwing the FA Cup away last year and handing it to City. But at least those shocking misses opened SAF eyes. He can also be proud of handing the title to Chelsea in 2009-10 season. His catalogue of misses during the run-in, when Rooney was injured, is what did it for me.

Adolf Hipster · 19-03-2012 5:02am

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Berbatov Proud? Carrying? Are you serious? He can also be proud of throwing the FA Cup away last year and handing it to City. But at least those shocking misses opened SAF eyes. He can also be proud of handing the title to Chelsea in 2009-10 season. His catalogue of misses during the run-in, when Rooney was injured, is what did it for me.

Berba was a major reason we won the league last season.

You need to let that one game go, you either waffle about how shít Anderson is or Berba missing in the FA cup against City, cut the man some slack, the majority of the team was shocking in that FA cup game.

RVD420 · 19-03-2012 5:22am

Valencia is boss.

Liam O · 19-03-2012 6:04am

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

Berba was a major reason we won the league last season.

You need to let that one game go, you either waffle about how shít Anderson is or Berba missing in the FA cup against City, cut the man some slack, the majority of the team was shocking in that FA cup game.

Tbf, Berba has had a lot more than one bad game. He has done well in some periods but if you look at it overall he has buckled everytime he has been challenged bar maybe the Liverpool cup game last season. If Welbeck or Chico was in the team over him last season they may have done just as well, not to take away from Berba though as for 4 or 5 games around Christmas he did win I'd say at least 3 or 4 points on his own that made the difference at the end of the season.

Giggsy11 · 19-03-2012 6:47am

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Berbatov Proud? Carrying? Are you serious? He can also be proud of throwing the FA Cup away last year and handing it to City. But at least those shocking misses opened SAF eyes. He can also be proud of handing the title to Chelsea in 2009-10 season. His catalogue of misses during the run-in, when Rooney was injured, is what did it for me.

We would have won the league had Valencia converted one on one chance created by Berba against Blackburn.

I really hope Berba leaves United. He deserves much better treatment and player of his ability should be playing week in week out (At least else where if he is not suited here).

counterlock · 19-03-2012 10:38am

Liam O wrote: »

Tbf, Berba has had a lot more than one bad game. He has done well in some periods but if you look at it overall he has buckled everytime he has been challenged bar maybe the Liverpool cup game last season.

I don't think its fair to really say he buckled! He played badly in some games alright, and his stats are padded a little with the 5 goals against blackburn but he still scored a lot of important goals. Blackpool is the one that jumps out to me from last year (apart from the masterclass against Liverpool :pac:).

Like Giggsy says, he deserves to be playing week in week out. We knew what we were getting when we signed him, he was never going to work as hard as people would like, but his control and finishing is second to none. The option being taken up on his contract also means the club (and him of course) will get some money back on the sale.

useless · 19-03-2012 10:47am

Is Cleverley injured again? Didn't even make the subs yesterday.

Vanbis · 19-03-2012 10:50am

useless wrote: »

Is Cleverley injured again? Didn't even make the subs yesterday.

I'd say that was more to him having a shocker against Athletico Bilbao.

Mr Alan · 19-03-2012 12:19pm

tvercetti wrote: »

I think we all let Utds central midfield situation get to us sometimes but hearing the commentator in the Liverpool game say "Jay Spearing is keeping Adam out of the team" brightened my day and made things not look so bad.

Jay Spearing > Anderson

Schism · 19-03-2012 12:23pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

Jay Spearing > Anderson

Maybe so... maybe. But he does look like a potato.

RasTa · 19-03-2012 12:23pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

Jay Spearing > Anderson

lol, he better than Adam then?

homerjay2005 · 19-03-2012 12:25pm

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Any following @redissue on twitter coming out with some horrible stuff about Muamba .

just took a look now. is it all still there or has some being removed?

no need to say the stuff they are saying at all, best leave it unsaid.

however, one or two things are true...just perhaps not the time to be saying it and would have been more appropriate to be saying it in the past, not reacting to something as tragic as this.

Mr Alan · 19-03-2012 12:28pm

RasTa wrote: »

lol, he better than Adam then?

In a defensive midfield role, absolutely.

Nalz · 19-03-2012 12:42pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

Jay Spearing > Anderson

Wahey!

Red Crow · 19-03-2012 1:02pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

tvercetti wrote: »

I think we all let Utds central midfield situation get to us sometimes but hearing the commentator in the Liverpool game say "Jay Spearing is keeping Adam out of the team" brightened my day and made things not look so bad.

Jay Spearing > Anderson

For all Anderson faults he is a superior football player to Spearing. At a top 4 club Spearing wouldn't get a look in. Anderson with regular football will be a good player.

Let's compare Reina and Jones next while we are having fitting comparisons.

Mr Alan · 19-03-2012 1:05pm

I thought Anderson was meant to be a defensive midfielder for you lot?

Gerrard in his pocket? That kinda thing?

Nalz · 19-03-2012 1:15pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

I thought Anderson was meant to be a defensive midfielder for you lot?

Gerrard in his pocket? That kinda thing?

Did you call Gerrard a defensive midfielder any time he had someone in his pocket?

Mr Alan · 19-03-2012 1:20pm

Nope. But Anderson was definitely morphed into a defensive midfielder when he moved to Utd. That game where he had Gerrard 'in his pocket', Gerrard was playing off the striker, not in CM.

Giggsy11 · 19-03-2012 1:21pm

Meh, Gibson > Spearing.

Nalz · 19-03-2012 1:24pm

Is Nani back for next week?

Mars Bar · 19-03-2012 1:26pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

Nope. But Anderson was definitely morphed into a defensive midfielder when he moved to Utd. That game where he had Gerrard 'in his pocket', Gerrard was playing off the striker, not in CM.

Just because a player is assigned to tracking a dangerous player in a game doesn't necessarily make him a DM.
Sure, only the beginning of the season himself and Cleverley were an attacking force with hardly a defensive bone between them!

Nalz · 19-03-2012 1:28pm

Oh and is Michael Owen gonna play football again?

MD1990 · 19-03-2012 1:33pm

Trilla wrote: »

Oh and is Michael Owen gonna play football again?

Maybe when he gets time off from the racing

homerjay2005 · 19-03-2012 1:37pm

Trilla wrote: »

Oh and is Michael Owen gonna play football again?

he has only played one league game this season, shocking!

lordgoat · 19-03-2012 2:28pm

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Meh, Mel Gibson > Spearing.

Yep i agree.

Will I Amnt · 19-03-2012 2:52pm

Wtf folks,seems like every day now there's a discussion about a Liverpool midfielder in here.

Might aswell throw my 2 cents in,Spearing is shìte,technically awful player.
Can't shoot,can't pass not renowned for his tackling,I honestly scratch my head and wonder how he has a contract with a team like Liverpool.
Anderson is worth 2 of him and I don't even rate Anderson.

kryogen · 19-03-2012 3:01pm

Mr Alan wrote: »

I thought Anderson was meant to be a defensive midfielder for you lot?

No, no he isn't.

Eathrin · 19-03-2012 3:08pm

I don't see the point in comparing our players against Liverpool's anymore. They're not in our league, 7th place and 28 points behind, it's fairly obvious at this stage that their players just aren't going to be in the same bracket as ours.

homerjay2005 · 19-03-2012 3:10pm

my opinion on Spearing is very clear - when i see him on their team sheet, it warms my heart. he is not good enough to play for a top club and its a reason why liverpool are currently 7th in the table > they have players like spearing in their team.

as regards anderson, ive lost faith in him, however ive lost faith more in fergusons ability to buy good CM players or even identify that we have a problem in the area, so if he left, we could have an even bigger problem.

the only player i would like to see leave this summer is Park, but i dont think it will happen. ideally he would leave and berba stays, i think Owen will leave also. we will probably sign 3 players in the summer and hopefully 2 of them will be central players.if berba and owen go, we will get in a striker also to take up 4th choice, which wont be easy to get.

Will I Amnt · 19-03-2012 3:12pm

Eathrin wrote: »

I don't see the point in comparing our players against Liverpool's anymore. They're not in our league, 7th place and 28 points behind, it's fairly obvious at this stage that their players just aren't going to be in the same bracket as ours.

They have some players that are better than some of our players in a few positions in fairness.
That's been done to death anyway.

homerjay2005 · 19-03-2012 3:17pm

cambo2008 wrote: »

They have some players that are better than some of our players in a few positions in fairness.
That's been done to death anyway.

to be honest, if i was given the choice to sign one liverpool player, i would struggle to come up with one, who would improve our team. 11 v 11, our players are better than theirs in every position. dont forget, this is a team who came 7th last year and is currently 7th again.

league tables rarely lie.

Will I Amnt · 19-03-2012 3:24pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

to be honest, if i was given the choice to sign one liverpool player, i would struggle to come up with one, who would improve our team. 11 v 11, our players are better than theirs in every position. dont forget, this is a team who came 7th last year and is currently 7th again.

league tables rarely lie.

Lucas would definitely improve our first choice 11,there's a couple of debatable ones that have been debated plenty already so I won't bother with them.

sReq | uTeK · 19-03-2012 3:26pm

cambo2008 wrote: »

homerjay2005 wrote: »

to be honest, if i was given the choice to sign one liverpool player, i would struggle to come up with one, who would improve our team. 11 v 11, our players are better than theirs in every position. dont forget, this is a team who came 7th last year and is currently 7th again.

league tables rarely lie.

Lucas would definitely improve our first choice 11,there's a couple of debatable ones that have been debated plenty already so I won't bother with them.

I'd have lucas in our starting 11 every day of the week if he was fit.

Mikeyt086 · 19-03-2012 3:28pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

to be honest, if i was given the choice to sign one liverpool player, i would struggle to come up with one, who would improve our team. 11 v 11, our players are better than theirs in every position. dont forget, this is a team who came 7th last year and is currently 7th again.

league tables rarely lie.

Jose Enrique.

homerjay2005 · 19-03-2012 3:33pm

cambo2008 wrote: »

Lucas would definitely improve our first choice 11,there's a couple of debatable ones that have been debated plenty already so I won't bother with them.

lucas would add nothing to our team. our style of play is build on speed, shifting the ball quickly and getting it wide to players who create chances. we have 4 wide players, who have 47 assists this season, compare that to liverpool who have the likes of stuart downing who barely has an assist all season, yet has played 30+ games.

they are a team, who is build prodiminately on being solid, playing long ball and thriving on set pieces and a pressurised game. the later suits players like lucas who sits in front of a back 4, and adds very little going forward.

we need creativity first and foremost and then, somebody to retain possession. i for one, wouldnt swap carrick for lucas.

Will I Amnt · 19-03-2012 3:37pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

we need creativity first and foremost and then, somebody to retain possession. i for one, wouldnt swap carrick for lucas.

Not going any further with this.Lucas is a better cm than Carrick.

Vanbis · 19-03-2012 3:39pm

I'd take Pepa Renia and Jose Enrique.

Adolf Hipster · 19-03-2012 3:40pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

cambo2008 wrote: »

Lucas would definitely improve our first choice 11,there's a couple of debatable ones that have been debated plenty already so I won't bother with them.

lucas would add nothing to our team. our style of play is build on speed, shifting the ball quickly and getting it wide to players who create chances. we have 4 wide players, who have 47 assists this season, compare that to liverpool who have the likes of stuart downing who barely has an assist all season, yet has played 30+ games.

they are a team, who is build prodiminately on being solid, playing long ball and thriving on set pieces and a pressurised game. the later suits players like lucas who sits in front of a back 4, and adds very little going forward.

we need creativity first and foremost and then, somebody to retain possession. i for one, wouldnt swap carrick for lucas.

Lucas would add so much more to our team, he's not a bad passer by any means.

MD1990 · 19-03-2012 3:40pm

a Liverpool/United team for me

__________________Reina_________________

Johnson____Ferdinand_____Vidic______Enrique

Valencia_____Scholes_____Gerrard______Nani

_________Suarez_________Rooney_________

Will I Amnt · 19-03-2012 3:45pm

MD1990 wrote: »

a Liverpool/United team for me

__________________Reina_________________

Johnson____Ferdinand_____Vidic______Enrique

Valencia_____Scholes_____Gerrard______Nani

_________Suarez_________Rooney_________

Swap Smalling for Johnson and I'll consider looking at the rest of them

jaykay74 · 19-03-2012 3:48pm

I think Scholes/Carrick is a better CM combo given a team with pacy attacking wingers than Scholes/Gerrard. Their job is basically to feed the wingers. Don't think that would be Gerrards strength.

Paul Tergat · 19-03-2012 3:50pm

jaykay74 wrote: »

I think Scholes/Carrick is a better CM combo given a team with pacy attacking wingers than Scholes/Gerrard. Their job is basically to feed the wingers. Don't think that would be Gerrards strength.

Aye, scholes/Gerrard would need a Lucas/Carrick alongside them to do some of the donkey work

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

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