Making Porn in Ireland

mountainyman · 23-03-2006 2:27pm

Karlitosway1978 wrote:

But can you claim any form of privacy if the product is for public viewing?

I think if the couple were actually married and said that they derived erotic pleasure from the filming and distribution of the sex act you might get away with it?

MM

EducatedGuess · 23-03-2006 4:04pm

Karlito, in relation to advice or argument a person needs to have a keen understanding of law as a whole, thats not taking away the fact that the most experienced people on criminal law are both Gardai and criminals, and I know alot of criminals who used the system better than I ever could. That is to say I dont practice in criminal law much but those who use it daily, know it. But for arguments in court one can intrepret a decision how they like. That's why to become a judge you need to have studied Jurisprudence. Just because criminal legistlation doesn't cover it, it doesn't make it legal. Legislation evolves from case law thats why we have so many amendments.

...."against a cult which contained the danger of the proselytisation and corruption of young men" by a judge stating this, one could argue in court that by limiting the exposure of young men to the sort of men and acts in Regina V. Brown and by protecting the public policy that it would be necessary to curb the chances of this behaviour occurring albeit the actual consentual harm or the acts themselves, one must for the protection of moral values prevent these acts from happening in the first place. etc Now thats an airy fairy way of putting it, but I hope I explained it right. BTW these are not my views at all, I would actually disagree with it myself.

In McGee I think it was there actual marital status that saved them. When it comes to cases like this I think the strictest terms would be applied to the Constitutional Family. However Mountain would have a good argument for it. The constitutional family and the family are two completely different things. [Sadly]

Eru · 24-03-2006 7:45pm

mountainyman wrote:

I think if the couple were actually married and said that they derived erotic pleasure from the filming and distribution of the sex act you might get away with it?

MM

Distribution destroys their claim in my opinion, if they said they enjoyed being watched by invited people and/or taping but did not intend to distribute the tape themselves, then I would say they have a legitimate case.

Educated,
Why not just admit you were wrong? No case, be it statute, common or case backs your original claim. If you want to babble about interpretation then fine but it is only your credibility that suffers.

rsynnott · 24-03-2006 8:23pm

Wonder what the situation would be if someone made porn here, and distributed it elsewhere? What constitutes porn? If you take a photograph of yourself with no clothes on, is that an offence?

Victor · 24-03-2006 9:38pm

mountainyman wrote:

I suppose in the case of porn the crime would be prostitution?

Prostitution, of itself is not a crime in Ireland. What two adults do in private, is largely for them and not the courts.

It might be any number of offences, living off immoral means (needs evidence), keeping a brothel (needs evidence), producing indecent material (for a jury to decide) or censorship / classification evasion (obvious).

Of note is the English film "9 songs" which features explicit, actual sex which was given an 18s rating here (a very small amount of films are banned here every year).

Freelancer · 24-03-2006 10:29pm

Well for start you may need a distribution and production permit

sneakerfreak · 25-11-2007 11:16pm

Hardcore DVDs that are mailed to you will be seized by customs if they spot them.

DVD deliveries to Adult Shops are also regularly seized.Adult Shops are also raided every couple of months and have their DVDs seized as they are not certificated (IFCO refuses to censor them).

Adult Shops recieve a letter every few months reminding them that they may only have films on their shelves for sale if they come from certain distributors (SonyBMG,HMV,Paramount etc etc).Obviously none of these distributors supply hardcore movies.

As far as I know producing porn is illegal,the guys who made the three F**ked in Ireland movies were British and shot it in a remote area of Tír Chonaill.

I dont think the Gards were too worried about chasing them down.

The third in that series was pulled off the shelves as soon as it became known that one of the girls had been a few months short of eighteen when the film was shot.

Licenses and so on and so forth for making films?Forget about it.Get a good camera and some willing participants who are above the age of consent,get them to provide proof of their age and keep copies.get them to sign a form saying they agree to be filmed and that you can do what you want with the film afterward.Treat everyone nice,remind them their friends and family could see the movie and most people will think they are sluts/scumbags because of it.You should never make them think they can be in a film and no one will notice.

Then go to the Venus Trade Fair in Berlin in October and set sell the rights to a European company or else do some extra work with yourself and get a near finished product and set up distribution with a European company.

Thats pretty much it.If you start worrying about the ins and outs of the law you will get so bogged down in it all that you will end up doing nothing.

IT Loser · 26-11-2007 6:08pm

Mr Burns wrote: »

What is the position if one orders a hardcore porn DVD by mail order via the internet? Would they be prosecuted?

Every position you can think of!!!!

Making Porn in Ireland

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